Botkin Family End-of-Year Letter. 2014 Edition-MERGED

[Jana814]

Yep - 5 sons, who get to marry and procreate; and 2 daughters, who most likely never will (prayed-over ovaries notwithstanding).

Thanks!!

[ladyamylynn]

Geoff is THE most arrogant, pretentious, self-righteous, full-of-shit blowhard in fundieland. He is worse than dearly departed Dougie, and THAT is saying something.

Amen, sister. I always got the feeling that Dougie's rhetorical style was heavily ripped off from influenced by Geoff's.

[DaffyDill]

How old are Anna Sofia and Elizabeth? Surely they are getting past their shelf lives as fertile fundie females? (love me some alliteration)

They're both such attractive girls, it really is a wonder they haven't been snapped up by some godly young man looking for a slavehelpmeet. Although they do seem soooooo fond of Daddy... :?

[NachosFlandersStyle]

So they visited Russia, amid all its economic, diplomatic, and human rights fiascos, and were pleased to see the Lord at work. But then they went on to Stockholm, which I've heard is one of the world's cleanest cities, and despaired at the way that secularism is "bringing these cities to ruin."

I wonder if they just walked around sneering at the wages of socialism and gathering evidence for their next screed, or if they at least took the time to see the sights?

[hoipolloi]

Quoth Geoffrey:

Noah is studying electrical engineering and looking for new opportunities for Christian engineers and inventors. He’s currently our leading self-taught programmer, designer and web architect.

Home-schooled electrical engineer? Oh yeah - I'd hire that boy in a heartbeat to screw in lightbulbs and maybe turn the lights on and off.

What a load of malarkey - but then should we be surprised considering Geoff' Botkin claims to be "an artist, cultural analyst, political consultant, documentary filmmaker, writer and lecturer. Before that he worked on seismic oil exploration exploding dynamite, and for a season with ducks and duck hunters as a wildlife biologist." (westernconservatory.com/about/team#/geoffrey-botkin)

[Coco]

What. The. Hell? :?

Just a tiny little alarm bell written in the middle of all the cozy fluff, a muffled scare tactic to frighten their fans. Gotta keep them coming for the guidance of wise, noble world traveler Geoff.

He should have said the truth - rape culture: a result of exploiting the powerless and weak because the strong think they can do anything and take anything they want.

Whatever he intended to say by mentioning Islamic immigration, he's missing the point because ideology isn't limited to a race, and fighting fire with fire is just going to blow up the world. The only way to have peace is to make sure everyone gets their rights, but his whole life is wrapped up in overpowering opposition instead of living in harmony. :roll: King of the ash heap.

[Arete]

Oh FFS. :roll: Noah is not, and will never be an engineer unless he goes to an accredited college or university that grants a BS in Engineering. He would then need to show that degree to sit and take an exam to become licensed. Geoff indulges in the same sleight of hand as Steve Maxwell, who proclaims his sons are electricians and plumbers even though they have none of the training or qualifications. In the real world, Daddy saying so does not make it so.

If both those wackjobs are going to make money off their sheeple by writing books/giving lectures on the uselessness of college and votech, they need to stop claiming professional qualifications for their sons. Let them own the decision to "not be of this world" that now keeps their adult children from becoming REAL engineers, plumbers, and electricians.

[Sundaymorning]

Quoth Geoffrey:

Home-schooled electrical engineer? Oh yeah - I'd hire that boy in a heartbeat to screw in lightbulbs and maybe turn the lights on and off.

What a load of malarkey - but then should we be surprised considering Geoff' Botkin claims to be "an artist, cultural analyst, political consultant, documentary filmmaker, writer and lecturer. Before that he worked on seismic oil exploration exploding dynamite, and for a season with ducks and duck hunters as a wildlife biologist." (westernconservatory.com/about/team#/geoffrey-botkin)

[Burris]

The first thing I noticed about Geoff's circular is what I assume to be a deliberate effort to recreate the tone of a Biblical epistle:

Geoff writes, "Greetings in the Lord, dear friends."

James, the brother of Jesus, begins his own circular with the following words: "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

"My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience." (James 1-3)

Not surprisingly, since Geoff believes he is writing for the ages - for his posterity - he continues to borrow his style from James and other Biblical authors:

Years ago, Victoria and I found a promise that said one day we would reap if we didn’t grow weary and lose heart.

[docmom]

The staunchly anti-Christian "English" government endorses Christianity as the state religion. However, I'm guessing that the Church of England with its woman bishop (took long enough!) and its general championship of equality etc isn't Christian enough for Doug. Now, Russia!! There's a good Christian state clearly following Jesus' teachings (And Jesus spake "Invade Crimea" spaketh He).

[PrairieGirl]

Enough about Noah and his imaginary career as an "electrical engineer". What I want to know is this mysterious business adventure upon which son Lucas is embarking. C'mon my FJ peeps. Let's hear your most hilarious guesses!

Also, we need a catch phrase for Botkin, like we had for Dougie the Tool.

Geoff Botkin is a Blowhard.

Geoff Botkin is a Legend in his own mind (I know I've heard that one here).

Geoff Botkin is a fake duck biologist.

Geoff Botkin is a ________.

ETA: Great analysis, Burris.

ETA #2: Geoff Botkin is a Terrible Biblical Saint Reenactor.

[StacyW]

Enough about Noah and his imaginary career as an "electrical engineer". What I want to know is this mysterious business adventure upon which son Lucas is embarking. C'mon my FJ peeps. Let's hear your most hilarious guesses!

Also, we need a catch phrase for Botkin, like we had for Dougie the Tool.

Geoff Botkin is a Blowhard.

Geoff Botkin is a Legend in his own mind (I know I've heard that one here).

Geoff Botkin is a fake duck biologist.

Geoff Botkin is a ________.

ETA: Great analysis, Burris.

[browncoatslytherin]

I like "Geoff Botkin is a fake duck biologist," but maybe we should shorten it to "Geoff Botkin is an FDB" (which might get mistaken for effin' douche bag)

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[moodygirl86]

Oh FFS. :roll: Noah is not, and will never be an engineer unless he goes to an accredited college or university that grants a BS in Engineering. He would then need to show that degree to sit and take an exam to become licensed. Geoff indulges in the same sleight of hand as Steve Maxwell, who proclaims his sons are electricians and plumbers even though they have none of the training or qualifications. In the real world, Daddy saying so does not make it so.

If both those wackjobs are going to make money off their sheeple by writing books/giving lectures on the uselessness of college and votech, they need to stop claiming professional qualifications for their sons. Let them own the decision to "not be of this world" that now keeps their adult children from becoming REAL engineers, plumbers, and electricians.

I think there's enough BS about Noah without him obtaining one of the engineering variety! :)

[Marian the Librarian]

Enough about Noah and his imaginary career as an "electrical engineer". What I want to know is this mysterious business adventure upon which son Lucas is embarking. C'mon my FJ peeps. Let's hear your most hilarious guesses!

Also, we need a catch phrase for Botkin, like we had for Dougie the Tool.

Geoff Botkin is a Blowhard.

Geoff Botkin is a Legend in his own mind (I know I've heard that one here).

Geoff Botkin is a fake duck biologist.

Geoff Botkin is a ________.

ETA: Great analysis, Burris.

ETA #2: Geoff Botkin is a Terrible Biblical Saint Reenactor.

No mystery!! Ladies and gentlemen of FJ, I give you (drum roll) - T-Rex Arms!

trex-arms.com

facebook.com/trexarmskydex?ref=br_tf

T.REX ARMS is a small Tennessee company made up of young men and women who mold holsters, write articles, review gear, shoot in competitions, and train defensively. We make it a high priority to get orders shipped out as soon as we can.

At T.REX ARMS our goal is to provide quality gear for carrying firearms, ammunition, and other life-saving equipment. While we offer conventional designs you see on the market today we’re also constantly striving to develop new and unconventional products to fill voids we find in the industry.

Many kydex companies produce every-day carry gear for the average citizen. While much of our gear has the same intended purpose, we also produce products for the law enforcement world and the military sector.

We here at T.REX ARMS are proud to be supplying gear to private military contractors, competition shooters, people in the special operations community, and civilians all over the U.S.

Translation: A-S and E are "busier than ever" knitting holsters, and Lucas has inherited his father's gift for hyperbole.

[PrairieGirl]

No mystery!! Ladies and gentlemen of FJ, I give you (drum roll) - T-Rex Arms!

trex-arms.com

facebook.com/trexarmskydex?ref=br_tf

Translation: A-S and E are "busier than ever" knitting holsters, and Lucas has inherited his father's gift for hyperbole.

:violence-rambo: :violence-rambo: Typical Botkin blowhardedness. I almost want to follow that FB page just to watch the :trainwreck: but I no longer have a fake account.

It makes me laugh to think that the Botkins have convinced themselves that they are important enough to supply important ammo to Murica's top military sectors and law enforcement officials. And of course we lowly peons, I mean "average citizens".

Geoff Botkin is a fake duck biologist/Biblical saint/legend/snow sculptor/New Zealand Prime Minister.

[docmom]

They named their company after a dinosaur??? A creature who became extinct millions of years ago and probably never carried a gun. Probably.

[PrairieGirl]

They named their company after a dinosaur??? A creature who became extinct millions of years ago and probably never carried a gun. Probably.

Correction: A creature who became extinct 2,000 years ago during Noah's flood and was most likely Adam's personal pet in the Garden of Eden.

I am going to assume from your username that you are a self-educated physician who is a stay-at-home mom who only sees patients that come to your home whilst your babies are napping. Much like the Proverbs woman.

[MissBitters]

I was just looking through the Western Conservatory store and noticed they no longer sell Return of the Daughters or So Much More. Instead they are now shilling It's Not About Staying Home. I wonder how long it took them to pull those off the shelves after the Doug Phillips scandal?

[Marian the Librarian]

I was just looking through the Western Conservatory store and noticed they no longer sell Return of the Daughters or So Much More. Instead they are now shilling It's Not About Staying Home. I wonder how long it took them to pull those off the shelves after the Doug Phillips scandal?

ROTD disappeared very quickly from the Western Conservatory store after the DPIAT/R story broke. "Doug? Doug who???"

What sucks the most, IMNSHO, is that the Botkins have never made any sort of public statement in support of Lourdes, one of their shining stay-at-home-daughter stars. Pretty sad, given all of Geoff's bloviating, harrumph-y articles and speeches about ethics and morals and villainy and How We Botkins Do Things Right And Better Than You.

[hoipolloi]

phallic entitlement complex

Heh. That about sums it up.

Thank you, Burris for the great exegesis, but that phrase is a definite contender for the "wins internet" award.

[hoipolloi]

I was just looking through the Western Conservatory store and noticed they no longer sell Return of the Daughters or So Much More. Instead they are now shilling It's Not About Staying Home. I wonder how long it took them to pull those off the shelves after the Doug Phillips scandal?

Not long. There was a flurry of Ebay sales of ROTD after the Fall of Doug Phillips Is A Rapist but it now seems to have disappeared from there as well.

[thoughtful]

The blindness that keeps these people from seeing that they are walking jokes astounds me.

"T.Rex Arms" cracked me up. It's a stupid name in general, but it's especially symbolic of helplessness to me, due to the silly way I remind piano students to sit back. When they get too close, their overly-bent arms actually make playing more difficult, and it reminds me of the teeny front limbs of T. Rex. "Raptor arms" or "T. Rex arms" are actually how we refer to it.

Here is some info on the movie Ben is scoring:

A young slave girl, Anna, is rescued and adopted by Christians in 2nd Century Smyrna and befriended by their aged bishop, Polycarp. As Anna is taught by Polycarp and her new family, she struggles to reconcile her beliefs with those of the Christians. When the Roman proconsul demands that all citizens worship Caesar to show their allegiance to Rome, Polycarp and the Christians must find courage to stand for their faith against the growing threat of persecution. Anna is forced to come to grips with the truth and choose whom she is willing to live-and die-for.

https://www.facebook.com/polycarpmovie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3377548/

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[moodygirl86]

They named their company after a dinosaur??? A creature who became extinct millions of years ago and probably never carried a gun. Probably.

I'm hoping it's subversive rebellion and they actually named it after the rock band.

[Coco]

TRANSLATION: We refer to his venture as an experiment rather than as in enterprise because, as a result of his inexperience coupled to early training that left him with a phallic entitlement complex, his attempt at running a business both sucks and blows.

LOL amen. Preach it. :worship: