Facebook post about birth control

[Knight of Ni]

I have a facebook friend that is a Catholic priest. He has been posting a lot recently about the recent debates about requiring health insurance providers to cover birth control but this one tops them all:

"One doctor said to his daughter about contraceptive pills: ".. I would not give this to my worst enemy..." These pills allow you to have sex without worrying that you will have an unwanted child, but at the same time destroy your delicate body and reduces you to an OBJECT of pleasure for men."

I don't know where he got this quote but it's along the lines of everything he's posted so far. (Don't even get me started on his post about gay marriage.) He also posted this opinion column along with it

http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/ ... ?hpt=us_t4

I can't even begin to understand how birth control destroys your body and makes women an object for men. I thought that the development of birth control contributed to the liberation of women.

[MarsGirl]

Oh... geesh... Dont get me started on this one.

[fakepigtails73]

To the OP: you have the answer in your last sentence...They hate the pill because it helps women, simple as that.

Oh, and the pill of 2012 is not the same as the 1st generation of pills in 1964. There are possible side effects (like every medecine), but there are nowhere as bad as the early pills.

What an idiot. I dunno why a celibate old man is giving contraceptive lessons on facebook... :ugeek:

[SayNoToMullets]

So the upshot is that women don't get to enjoy sex whether or not they're on the pill? I think a good number of women would beg to differ.

[MarsGirl]

I just dont understand why the birth control pill is suddenly under attack... I received a letter from Planned Parenthood the other day that is absolutely frightening to realize... I cant believe anyone's giving these people this much voice. Most Catholic women I know are using the pill... I come from a Catholic family, and believe you me, they must be using birth control cuz no one is having 8+ kids like my grandma did.

[debrand]

reduces you to an OBJECT of pleasure for men."

Because women NEVER want to have sex for the sake of sex itself.

[debrand]

I just dont understand why the birth control pill is suddenly under attack... I received a letter from Planned Parenthood the other day that is absolutely frightening to realize... I cant believe anyone's giving these people this much voice. Most Catholic women I know are using the pill... I come from a Catholic family, and believe you me, they must be using birth control cuz no one is having 8+ kids like my grandma did.

It is frightening and makes me wonder what is going on. Has women 's sexuality suddenly become that scary? And if so, why now?

[ilovetchotchkes]

I have NO IDEA where they come up with "the pill objectifies women".

So making me responsible for my own reproductive choices objectifies me? I JUST DON't GET IT. Being able to have sex anytime YOU wanted? OMG how is that objectification as opposed to liberation?

[Knight of Ni]

Because women NEVER want to have sex for the sake of sex itself.

"I thought the whole moral obligation to fulfill a husband’s sexual needs was a thing of the past" This is one of the reasons that the author from the CNN article gave for disagreeing with birth control so apparently she does think that women get no enjoyment out of sex. The funny thing is she probably thinks she is being progressive in her views but in reality she is just as backwards as those who believe that women SHOULD always fulfill a husband's sexual needs.

[GeoBQn]

These pills allow me to know when my period is coming and be able to function without taking twice the recommended amount of ibuprofen in half the time. I can't stand it when people claim the pill is bad because it's "not natural." This seems to be something that some crunchy granola type people share with conservatives. I've even seen it in a book on macrobiotic cooking. Is this the same nature that gave us earthquakes and sharks and the ebola virus? I have PCOS, so for the sake of my health I can't let my cycles proceed "naturally" (in which case, they'd hardly be cycles at all.)

[debrand]

I have NO IDEA where they come up with "the pill objectifies women".

So making me responsible for my own reproductive choices objectifies me? I JUST DON't GET IT. Being able to have sex anytime YOU wanted? OMG how is that objectification as opposed to liberation?

In their thinking, men only have sex outside of marriage to satisfy their physical urges. Men will automatically disrespect any unmarried woman who has sex with them.

In contrast, women only have sex to fullfill emotional needs and are ripe to be taken advantage of by lustful men. Why anyone one would want to marry such a guy, I don't know. Apparently, the same man who couldn't respect his lover for having sex will suddenly be able to view his wife as a complete person even though she is having sex with him.

[ilovetchotchkes]

These pills allow me to know when my period is coming and be able to function without taking twice the recommended amount of ibuprofen in half the time. I can't stand it when people claim the pill is bad because it's "not natural." This seems to be something that some crunchy granola type people share with conservatives. I've even seen it in a book on macrobiotic cooking. Is this the same nature that gave us earthquakes and sharks and the ebola virus? I have PCOS, so for the sake of my health I can't let my cycles proceed "naturally" (in which case, they'd hardly be cycles at all.)

Not only that, but IF you want to have kids the pill will help your fertility, by suppressing ovulation, no ovulation NO CYST. But NOOooooo apparently there's a "natural" cure for it. Bullshit. I was on every damn vitamin, natropathic, homeopathic bullshit home remedy, and was still in blinding, horrific pain every month that even a vicodin doesn't touch. As soon as thing #2 is born and i'm fertile again, I'm going back on the #$(%ing pill.

[Knight of Ni]

People have left comments on his post. The use of birth control has just been compared to Hitler.

[MarsGirl]

People have left comments on his post. The use of birth control has just been compared to Hitler.

WTF?!!! :o

[Nothing2CHere]

Dear LittleBabyNothing - I am so, so sorry I stopped taking my birth control pills so that I could conceive you and have you born into such a fucked up world.

[ADoyle90815]

It is frightening and makes me wonder what is going on. Has women 's sexuality suddenly become that scary? And if so, why now?

It really is scary, that so many people are so afraid of a woman's sexuality or that's the excuse they use to justify their hatred of an entire gender. My own family is one of those where people used birth control, since there's only my younger brother in my immediate family, and I only have 3 cousins on my dad's side of the family even though my grandparents had 6 children. Obviously, not all of my uncles married or had children, so the ones who did marry were likely using birth control.

[Stickers]

"delicate body" are all bodies "delicate" or are just us girls bodies "delicate"? Blah.

[shesinsane]

I can't even begin to understand how birth control destroys your body and makes women an object for men. I thought that the development of birth control contributed to the liberation of women.

It destroys your body because medicine is science based, and therefore not understandable. It makes women the object of men because truly virtuous women don't want sex, it's just something they do to please their husbands. The only women with sexual desire are the whores, that's why they chose to work in the sex trade.*

I just dont understand why the birth control pill is suddenly under attack... I received a letter from Planned Parenthood the other day that is absolutely frightening to realize... I cant believe anyone's giving these people this much voice. Most Catholic women I know are using the pill... I come from a Catholic family, and believe you me, they must be using birth control cuz no one is having 8+ kids like my grandma did.

Because many people are unemployed and this country's infrastructure is aging and falling apart, but the solutions to those problems are difficult and scary. Much easier to create an anti-birth control bill than a job creating bill (unless you're an ultrasound tech in the state of Virginia).

I guess creating laws against violent videogames is passe, birth control's the new target.

*All of that is bs, but I was trying to play devil's advocate. :twisted:

[longskirtlotsakids]

Or in my case, birth control keeps me alive...

Reading on my husband's car forum, (99.9% men) the overwhelming response to the Catholic church/Obama flap was that... hold on to your seats:

"Viagra should be covered because limpdick is not normal. Pregnancy is."

[ilovetchotchkes]

Or in my case, birth control keeps me alive...

Reading on my husband's car forum, (99.9% men) the overwhelming response to the Catholic church/Obama flap was that... hold on to your seats:

"Viagra should be covered because limpdick is not normal. Pregnancy is."

Unless of course you have blocked fallopian tubes. Or PCOS. Oh but wait, IVF is evil and immoral as well.

People need to stay the hell out of my reproductive business.

[Nothing2CHere]

"Viagra should be covered because limpdick is not normal. Pregnancy is."

Do we have a little stabby smilie? Ah, here, this should work: :violence-axechase:

[Caxpax]

As previous posters have mentioned, their is a gross misunderstanding on the behalf of many conservative men (and women too, apparently) that women don't enjoy sex, submit to it only because it's their marital duty, and that the pill makes it harder for women who want to to say no to premarital sex resist coercion. My poor husband, who was raised fundie-lite, was taught this mindset- his world was absolutely BLOWN when I let him in on the secret that, yes, women like to fuck too. Really. And the women that don't are either not the norm (asexual) or with men who are bad lovers. (generally speaking). I asked him where the heck he got the idea that women had no interest in sex and he told me church, youth group, talks with the youth pastor, etc. All of his male peers and role models perpetuated this belief. Whenever I have to visit his childhood church I think sadly about all the poor ladies in the pews who apparently have no idea what it is to have a mindblowing orgasm.

And even though I haven't been on the pill for a few years, when I was single you would have had to pry it from my cold, dead hands. The pill didn't objectify me, it liberated me. Men need to stop telling women what they think/feel/believe. I wish I could perfect a virus that only attacked conservative men so they'd permanently lose their voices and they could all just shaddup already.

[Austin]

As previous posters have mentioned, their is a gross misunderstanding on the behalf of many conservative men (and women too, apparently) that women don't enjoy sex, submit to it only because it's their marital duty, and that the pill makes it harder for women who want to to say no to premarital sex resist coercion. My poor husband, who was raised fundie-lite, was taught this mindset- his world was absolutely BLOWN when I let him in on the secret that, yes, women like to fuck too. Really. And the women that don't are either not the norm (asexual) or with men who are bad lovers. (generally speaking). I asked him where the heck he got the idea that women had no interest in sex and he told me church, youth group, talks with the youth pastor, etc. All of his male peers and role models perpetuated this belief. Whenever I have to visit his childhood church I think sadly about all the poor ladies in the pews who apparently have no idea what it is to have a mindblowing orgasm.

And even though I haven't been on the pill for a few years, when I was single you would have had to pry it from my cold, dead hands. The pill didn't objectify me, it liberated me. Men need to stop telling women what they think/feel/believe. I wish I could perfect a virus that only attacked conservative men so they'd permanently lose their voices and they could all just shaddup already.

My sentiments exactly: they will have to pry it from my cold, dead hands.

[Childless]

And who exactly is going to pay for the umpteen babies I have if birth control is illegal? Because, I certainly can't afford them.

I'm married. I love sex. My husband loves sex. We're not going to stop having it anytime soon. Therefore, I will take birth control pills even if I have to smuggle them into the country illegally. Conservatives can kiss my ass and take a fucking leap off a tall building.

[shesinsane]

And who exactly is going to pay for the umpteen babies I have if birth control is illegal? Because, I certainly can't afford them.

I'm married. I love sex. My husband loves sex. We're not going to stop having it anytime soon. Therefore, I will take birth control pills even if I have to smuggle them into the country illegally. Conservatives can kiss my ass and take a fucking leap off a tall building.

All the discussions I've seen about birth control are about the slutty gal. The concept of a married woman who wants to fuck her husband but not have babies would confuse the hell out of them.

I'm serious about this, I do not think the average conservative even considers married women when discussing birth control or abortion. It's always about how "she should've thought of that before she spread her legs", not allowing for the existance of women in committed relationships that want to be able to fuck their men without becoming mommies (or expanding their brood if they already have kids).