Theonomy mom "breaks will" of 16 month old

[Maul the Koala]

They run a business called Legend Floors and Finishing and it's registered with the BC government. The landline number and fax number match up to the one for the Organics business.

legendfloors.blogspot.com/

Lesson for everyone, I found pretty much everything I needed to know about them in under 5 minutes and every single freaking thing is public domain. That motivated me to start removing anything and everything I could find, even if the internet is forever. :-/

[samithemage]

I've been known to make little ones "say" please for something that they want. That usually involves me saying "Can you say please?" and then taking their little hand gently and showing them how to make the sign for please, while telling them "Good job showing please," and then giving them what they had been asking for. It would be one thing to ask a 4 year old to say please for a want and not giving them the want if they refused. It's an entirely different story to force a 1 year old to sit in a high chair for 2 hours while you beat them, because they're thirsty and didn't say please. That is abuse.

[JesusFightClub]

I found her in about five minutes. Here's her blog: http://leahslabyrinth.wordpress.com/ She's some kind of 'musician.' https://www.facebook.com/pages/LEAH/306674107005 Total psycho. She's obsessed with Socialism! OMG! [How can she be Canadian? Seriously?] These women make me think of Carrie's mother and her 'dirty pillows.' Gah.

Oh good lord. She calls Nelson Mandela a terrorist! WTF?

http://leahslabyrinth.wordpress.com/201 ... list-army/

AAAARGH

This is one of the things some Christians do which annoys me intensely. They think the Bible is an argument against socialism, an argument for capitalism, or an argument "against the government taking our wealth and redistributing it". They then pick a random verse and claim this "proves it". An action roughly similar to claiming that "pisseth against the wall" is an argument for greater provision of public toilets.

THE BIBLE HAS NOT ONE THING TO SAY ABOUT CAPITALISM. NO NOT ONE. It would have been an utterly bizarre and unfathomable concept to the men who wrote the Bible, just as Marxism would have been. There were hundreds and hundreds of years to go before either was formed.

Part of this, as can be seen in Leah's comments, is that none of the "bible economics" lot know what capitalism actually means. It is not "having your own land" as one commenter claims, nor is it the exchange of goods and services or the act of buying stuff or the "right" to demand less tax. If they actually read a book which wasn't the Bible or some pile of old right wing wank now and again, this would aid comprehension.

And yeah, Nelson Mandela used to be a "terrorist". For many normal people learning this small fact begins a discussion in their brains involving questions like "So who defines what is a terrorist?" "Why might people use terrorist tactics?" "What is the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter?" and stuff like that. But this is Leah and so what she does instead is accuse him of killing "many Christians" for the lulz presumably. *sigh*

[Maul the Koala]

Want to have more fun? Her husband's Facebook profile is public and it's even worse than her babblings.

[emmiedahl]

THE BIBLE HAS NOT ONE THING TO SAY ABOUT CAPITALISM. NO NOT ONE. It would have been an utterly bizarre and unfathomable concept to the men who wrote the Bible, just as Marxism would have been. There were hundreds and hundreds of years to go before either was formed.

The Bible does not directly address economic systems, because they were so rudimentary back then. It does say a lot about how to treat the poor--letting them glean your fields, for example. When there is food left about the initial harvest, let the poor take it. In other words, if you have surplus, don't be an asshole; give it to people who really need it. It says a lot about providing for widows and orphans, to love your neighbor as yourself (which would mean not storing up wealth while the neighbor starves), etc.

People lived very communally back then, so the assumption was that you were caring for everyone in your clan before spending on extras. And often, giving to the poor meant that you were going hungry yourself. And still, one was ordered by God to do so. That hints that the greed we see now is the real sin.

[CC3]

When my kids were little, there was a teaching going around (I don't remember where it originated from) about breaking the will of a strong willed stubborn child. It didn't involve babies or toddlers but young kids who were openly defiant. The parent would calmly not allow the child to misbehave by verbally correcting them or giving them a time out. The whole idea was to break the will but not the spirit. I thought at the time it was basic kid parenting. Don't let the kid try to run the house or throw temper tantrums to get his way, but confront the issues head on. At first, I thought she was a classic child abuser, but it wouldn't surprise me if she is trying this method out on a toddler. Whatever is going on, I hope the authorities are called. And I hope she doesn't ever even think about spanking. She's got a mean streak a mile wide.

[fundifugee]

AAAARGH

This is one of the things some Christians do which annoys me intensely. They think the Bible is an argument against socialism, an argument for capitalism, or an argument "against the government taking our wealth and redistributing it". They then pick a random verse and claim this "proves it". An action roughly similar to claiming that "pisseth against the wall" is an argument for greater provision of public toilets.

THE BIBLE HAS NOT ONE THING TO SAY ABOUT CAPITALISM. NO NOT ONE. It would have been an utterly bizarre and unfathomable concept to the men who wrote the Bible, just as Marxism would have been. There were hundreds and hundreds of years to go before either was formed.

Part of this, as can be seen in Leah's comments, is that none of the "bible economics" lot know what capitalism actually means. It is not "having your own land" as one commenter claims, nor is it the exchange of goods and services or the act of buying stuff or the "right" to demand less tax. If they actually read a book which wasn't the Bible or some pile of old right wing wank now and again, this would aid comprehension.

And yeah, Nelson Mandela used to be a "terrorist". For many normal people learning this small fact begins a discussion in their brains involving questions like "So who defines what is a terrorist?" "Why might people use terrorist tactics?" "What is the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter?" and stuff like that. But this is Leah and so what she does instead is accuse him of killing "many Christians" for the lulz presumably. *sigh*

Actually, when forced to attend Bible College in the midst of my rebellion about my upbringing, I found the Old Testament economic practices quite interesting and definitely what these ignorami would call "communism". I am particularly fascinated by the Sabbatical year and Year of Jubilee system. Every 7 years debt is cancelled, and every 49 years, there is a radical redistribution of land and property. Upon dictating these laws, the Lord repeatedly says that "land is not yours, it's mine", which sounds a lot like what the First Nations thought when the Godly Christian Founding Fathers showed up here and decided they were stupid and primitive because they didn't own or sell their land. It would be a short step from 'people don't own land and therefore cannot accumulate it' to the means of production being held by the workers.

Ahem, but no, no, no, Jubilee is the name of a miscarried fetus.

[fundifugee]

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1067 ... s-dominion

Looks like this nasty woman is coming out with a book.

I can't find it on Amazon or Barnes and Noble, but maybe those of you with more impressive internet skillz can make sure her "beat down the baby" comments are copied to book store/book review sites?

[Maul the Koala]

There are radio stations that play her music and I was tempted to send the radio owners links with her beating her baby.

I've search the ISBN and that's the only site that comes up.

[Sola]

The. Sick. Fuck.

I want to break her face.

[Guest Anonymous]

This bitch wrote a guest column at the "Teaching Good Things" blogspot. I submitted a comment, which they actually published. I quoted her own blog from 2009, then added that the child was not yet speaking in complete sentences, yet she alternatively spanked and prayed over her, then added my own opinion that this was truly sick-making. If anyone else would like to express him/herself, the blogspot is

http://teachinggoodthings.com/blog/the- ... ment-33872

My comment is currently awaiting moderation but I think it's visible.

[LadyBlue]

Did anyone ever actually report this heinous excuse for a human being?

[twoleftfeet]

Can't someone figure out were this nut lives and turn her into the authorities? poor child...

[AudreyE]

I did an internship with CPS when I was in college, and we visited a woman who pulled this shit. The county had been keeping tabs on her for awhile.

[Want More Babies]

This bitch wrote a guest column at the "Teaching Good Things" blogspot. I submitted a comment, which they actually published. I quoted her own blog from 2009, then added that the child was not yet speaking in complete sentences, yet she alternatively spanked and prayed over her, then added my own opinion that this was truly sick-making. If anyone else would like to express him/herself, the blogspot is

http://teachinggoodthings.com/blog/the- ... ment-33872

My comment is currently awaiting moderation but I think it's visible.

I don't see it. My bet is that they "circle the wagons" to protect their own.

I wonder how many women who go out and buy this book know what she did to her 16 month old? I wonder how many of them would even care?

[NurseNell]

Leah herself said it best:

“I have no clue what I’m doing.â€

[Third]

When my son was 15 months old he wouldn't eat. I tried everything. He wouldn't eat and got so thin so I kept nursing him - really it was what kept him from starving. I asked for prayer at church in my Sunday School group. Instead of prayer I was told he was manipulating me and I needed to break his will. Otherwise as a teenager he would hit me and end up in jail. They told me to lock him in his highchair until he gave in. Only taking him out for diaper changes if that until he gave in and ate what I'd served. Even if it took leaving him in there all day.

I was so heartbroken - young FTM and I wanted help and I was told how wrong I was doing everything and how all my feelings were wrong because my non-verbal baby had manipulated me and I should know how easily a baby can allow "the enemy" in.

I ended up quitting Sunday school a few weeks later.

This wasn't a fundy church.

Now I tell people when they ask that I'm raising children not breaking them. I always get a look.

[Arielkay]

How horrific - and even more so that the mother thinks she's doing a GOOD thing. But I'm not that surprised. There is something about food and power struggles. My eldest daughter has sensory and texture issues. She would eat every baby food imaginable when it was strained, but once we started on solids she was very picky. It wasn't like she just fussed, she would literally get sick if someone pushed her too much, and I firmly believe if we'd left her up in her high chair she'd have willingly starved herself. She's not autistic, but she had enough symptoms that they did test her for it at one point.

Now my FIL is cradle CoC. He thought she should eat frickin adult meals as a toddler. He pushed her a lot, as did my SILs and my MIL. Pissed me off. It was like we were bad parents because our kid didn't eat everything they wanted her to eat. They said it was because I didn't feed her veggies as a baby (not true) and that I just let her run the whole show and never disciplined (also not true, though I didn't favor smacking or starving the kid, how unXtian of me). It's taken a while, but gradually she has accepted some new things into her diet. She's still very picky - but she's a perfectly healthy and happy 11 year old.

So, yeah, I could see people like that sitting a poor baby in a highchair or not giving her food to "teach her". Makes me sick, though. People still give me shit about not making the kid eat what everyone else eats, yadda yadda. All I can say is that at least my child probably will not develop an eating disorder like some of these children who are forced into eating. Eventually, a kid learns to exert what little control she has. Make her eat, she'll throw it up later.

Oh, and as far as politeness, kids learn that through example. If you say please and thank you, guess what? Kids will learn to say it too.

[Maul the Koala]

Can't someone figure out were this nut lives and turn her into the authorities? poor child...

I found their address a while back. I'm hesistant in posting it since I don't know if it goes against the rules. It's definitely public domain but I don't know if it's allowed.

[LadyBlue]

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[twoleftfeet]

Maul: you can call CPS without giving your name. They will follow-up especially since her kids are not enrolled in school. Good luck! You may save a life...

[Maul the Koala]

Maul: you can call CPS without giving your name. They will follow-up especially since her kids are not enrolled in school. Good luck! You may save a life...

You definitely have to give your name when reporting in B.C. I think I will call. I hope they take blog posts seriously.

FloraPoste, where did that comment come from? I think Leah and Steve are deleting everything to cover their tracks now. The other Theonomy Mom thread you posted a few days ago ranks pretty high in the searches when you search for their names. I think they're onto us.

[fakepigtails73]

How horrific - and even more so that the mother thinks she's doing a GOOD thing. But I'm not that surprised. There is something about food and power struggles. My eldest daughter has sensory and texture issues. She would eat every baby food imaginable when it was strained, but once we started on solids she was very picky. It wasn't like she just fussed, she would literally get sick if someone pushed her too much, and I firmly believe if we'd left her up in her high chair she'd have willingly starved herself. She's not autistic, but she had enough symptoms that they did test her for it at one point.

Now my FIL is cradle CoC. He thought she should eat frickin adult meals as a toddler. He pushed her a lot, as did my SILs and my MIL. Pissed me off. It was like we were bad parents because our kid didn't eat everything they wanted her to eat. They said it was because I didn't feed her veggies as a baby (not true) and that I just let her run the whole show and never disciplined (also not true, though I didn't favor smacking or starving the kid, how unXtian of me). It's taken a while, but gradually she has accepted some new things into her diet. She's still very picky - but she's a perfectly healthy and happy 11 year old.

So, yeah, I could see people like that sitting a poor baby in a highchair or not giving her food to "teach her". Makes me sick, though. People still give me shit about not making the kid eat what everyone else eats, yadda yadda. All I can say is that at least my child probably will not develop an eating disorder like some of these children who are forced into eating. Eventually, a kid learns to exert what little control she has. Make her eat, she'll throw it up later.

Oh, and as far as politeness, kids learn that through example. If you say please and thank you, guess what? Kids will learn to say it too.

I think that parents (and other caregivers) who lose their tempers over a child being a picky eater takes the kid's refusal too personnally. It's not a statement on the mother's cooking skills if the child refuses part of a meal. Kids' palates are not as developped as when it'll be when older...And mothers that freak out because their child refuse to eat a bunch of mixed carrots and meats should chill out.

Agree with you on the politeness.

[Witsec1]

You definitely have to give your name when reporting in B.C. I think I will call. I hope they take blog posts seriously.

FloraPoste, where did that comment come from? I think Leah and Steve are deleting everything to cover their tracks now. The other Theonomy Mom thread you posted a few days ago ranks pretty high in the searches when you search for their names. I think they're onto us.

I think you're right, Maul. If you google an exact phrase from her comment, you get the original page it was on: generationcedar.com/main/2009/05/early-child-training.html .

Not only have Leah's comments been scrubbed, but the comments responding to her have been deleted. I wish I had copied those comments too, and taken screen shots. You know it's bad when Kelly's fans think you're a bad mom.

[Witsec1]

The wierd thing is that the comments are also gone from google's cache, but it still shows up in search results.