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A PR stunt is part of the latest episode of the shitshow:

 

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"The 40 most astonishing lines from Donald Trump's Friday 'Fox & Friends' interview"

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(CNN )Faced with a mounting death toll from the coronavirus pandemic and historically high unemployment numbers, President Donald Trump went looking for a friend Friday morning. And as always, he was welcomed into the warm embrace of "Fox & Friends."

The interview -- such as it was -- allowed Trump to give voice to his various grievances and celebrate his alleged successes, all without a word of contradiction from the Fox hosts.

I went through the transcript and picked out the, er, best lines. They're below.

1. "Really most people knew from the beginning, and they knew it was just a total hoax. It was a made-up story, a disgrace to our nation."

The intelligence community, special counsel Robert Mueller and the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee all concluded that Russia sought to interfere in the 2016 election to help Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton. Or, yeah, a "hoax" and a "made-up story." And away we go!

2. "These are dirty politicians and dirty cops and some horrible people."

The President of the United States, ladies and gentlemen!

3. "Was a perfect call."

Yes, we are still on this.

4. "I got the President of Ukraine and said, 'Do you mind?' And he said, 'No. You go ahead and do it.'"

"There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me." -- Donald Trump to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky

5. "They tried to take down the president of the United States, a sitting, duly elected president of the United States before I even won."

In which Trump alleges that "they" -- not clear who he means -- was involved in a coup attempt to keep him from serving as president. His proof of this grand conspiracy? That former President Barack Obama allegedly knew about a call between Michael Flynn and Russian official Sergey Kislyak.

6. "Rick Grenell is doing a fantastic job, an absolutely fantastic job as our number one person on intelligence. And he has been incredible. It's too bad the people that were sitting before him, I won't use names, didn't do anything. They didn't do a thing."

To translate Trump here: Past directors of national intelligence didn't do exactly what he wanted them to do. Grenell, the current DNI, does.

7. "You look at Mueller, that was purely corrupt. And can you imagine with all the corruption having to do with Mueller."

Robert Mueller spent more than a decade as the FBI director -- under both Democratic and Republican presidents. Trump thinks Mueller was out to get him because Mueller once asked if he could have his dues back when he and his family left as members of Trump's golf course in Virginia. Yes, seriously.

8. "No collusion."

Feels like I may have heard this before.

9. "If it were a Republican, if it were reversed, if that were a Republican president or that were a -- let's say me, that would be the ultimate example but if that were a Republican president I believe he and Biden, sleepy Joe, was involved in this all also very much."

10. "And other people around President Obama were totally involved. And you'll see more and more things come out I think because like I know how it works."

To be clear on what Trump is alleging here: There was a broad-scale conspiracy by President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and other top officials in their administration to undermine his presidency before it even began. How? Why? "Because like I know how it works."

11. "He's dumb as a rock and he's a sick guy. There's something wrong with him."

The President of the United States on former FBI Director James Comey. Totally normal stuff!

12. "You know, I told Bill Barr you had -- look, I would be absolutely entitled in theory the Chief Law Enforcement Officer in theory, but I said, you know what? I want Bill Barr to handle it."

I think what Trump is saying here is that he could have overseen the investigation into how the FBI conducted the Russia probe because he is, in his own words, the "Chief Law Enforcement Officer." In theory, of course.

13. "If this were a Republican and if this were -- 25 people would be in jail for 50 years. They would be in jail for 50 years and it would have happened two years ago because everybody knew this was a hoax."

Well, he is the "Chief Law Enforcement Officer." In theory.

14. "Sean -- you look at Sean Hannity, what he's done. I mean, he should get the equivalent of the Pulitzer Prizes."

Ah yes, the "Pulitzer Prizes." I love those prizes.

15. "Tucker would do the Russia, Russia, Russia bit and laugh about it every night for two years."

Russia actively sought to interfere in our presidential election to help a candidate they thought would be better for their interests. HA HA HA. Oh wait.

16. "Jeff Sessions was a disaster. He -- I made him -- I didn't want to make him attorney general, but he was the first senator to endorse me, so I felt a little bit of an obligation."

Loyalty, thy name is Trump.

17. "He wasn't, you know, to me equipped to be attorney general, but he just wanted it, wanted it, wanted it. He was from a state that I love -- Alabama."

Wait. So Trump is admitting here that he didn't believe Jeff Sessions was qualified to be Attorney General but he named him to that job because Sessions really wanted it? And because Trump really likes the people of Sessions' home state? Uh, that seems like a weird thing to admit?

18. "Jeff was just very weak and very sad, and when the name Russia was mentioned, just the word Russia, he immediately instead of being a man and saying this is a hoax, he recused himself. "

Sessions recused himself from the Russia investigation to ensure there was no appearance of bias. As in, for the good of the country and its justice system. Or, in Trump's mind, because he wasn't "man" enough.

19. "But I learned a lot by watching Richard Nixon. Of course, there was one difference -- one big difference. Number one, he may have been guilty, and number two, he had tapes all over the place."

So, Nixon "may have been guilty?" Wow.

20. "I did nothing wrong, and there are no tapes, but I wish there were tapes in my case. But learn a lot from Richard Nixon and you don't do that."

OK, so Trump is saying he did nothing wrong when it comes to Ukraine and Russia. But that he learned from Nixon not to make tapes of his conversations. But, he did nothing wrong. The logic here is truly mind-blowing.

21. "Had I not fired him, I probably wouldn't be speaking to you right now other than maybe I'd be talking to you about the private sector because I'd be in the private sector had I not -- because this was a takeover."

Following this logic: If Trump hadn't fired James Comey, the, uh, "deep state" (or someone) would have led a successful coup to remove him from office. Yeah, yeah. This all checks out.

22. "That's when we found all of the emails and the texts where you had the two lovers, Strzok and Page, talking about how the insurance policy that if she doesn't win essentially we have an insurance policy, meaning if she doesn't win -- that's what we went through -- that we'll take him out. "

The Inspector General's report made very clear that neither Peter Stzrok nor Lisa Page influenced the start of the investigation into Russian interference nor was there any evidence of political bias on their part in how they behaved during the investigation.

23. "We are draining the swamp like nobody's ever drained the swamp."

The best swamp-draining. Believe me.

24. "We understand it now and you can never fully under the invisible enemy."

Wait. So do we now understand coronavirus? Or can we never fully grasp it?

25. "It's a much smarter enemy than the enemy, than the enemy that I had that we just discussed. Much, much smarter than those characters. That's a bunch of -- you know, those are people that are not in the same league. This is a very brilliant enemy and it happens to be invisible."

In sum: Coronavirus > "deep state." Also, much more invisible.

26. "And our tests are the best tests. They're calling up. We have tests that are the absolute best tests."

The best tests. Many people are saying it.

27. "And I saved hundreds of thousands of lives. And Anthony Fauci admitted that."

"I"

28. "We're leading in everything."

[nods head, looks around room tentatively]

29. "And we just got very good polling today I guess you probably saw, very good polling."

What poll is Trump talking about? I have no idea. And, let's be honest, neither does he. My only guess? This Rasmussen tracking poll of Trump's approval. (And you should read this about Rasmussen.)

30. "We've learned a lot of things about it and we may have fires and we're going to put the fires out."

What about if there are "Little Fires Everywhere?" [shows self out]

31. "We created the greatest economy in the history of the world, best we've ever had, best employment numbers, best stock markets, best number of jobs."

Simply not accurate.

32. "We'll be at 100,000, 110,000, higher -- the lower level of what was projected if we did the shutdown, but still you're talking about -- I say two Yankee stadiums of people."

"Now we're going toward 50 -- I'm hearing, or 60,000 people. One is too many. I always say it. One is too many, but we're going toward 50 or 60,000 people. That's at the lower -- as you know the lower (end of the projections) was supposed to be 100,000 people." -- Donald Trump, April 21

33. "I've had many false accusations made. I can tell you that. Many."

More than a dozen women have accused Trump of sexual harassment. He said in the run-up to the 2016 election that he would sue each and everyone one of them. He hasn't sued a single one.

34. "Law enforcement's going to look at it and have a good governor in the state and he's going to -- a very good governor actually, and he's going to be looking at it very strongly and he's going to do what's right, but it's a heartbreaking thing."

Trump somehow took a question about the killing of Ahmaud Arbery and turned it into a way to praise Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp. Which, well,OK.

35. "It's the Comey group whether he is there or not the whole thing whether he was involved. I don't even know that but it's the Obama Justice Department."

Oh so Comey was involved in "Bridgegate"? Big news! Oh wait, Trump just said he "doesn't even know that." So...

36. "She lost the House before because of her stupidity. She's highly overrated, a bad woman. She doesn't even want to go to work. She's in California sitting in her expensive house. "

The President of the United States on the Speaker of the House. That is all.

37. "UFC is having a big fight this weekend, which has become a hot sport, and which is going to be in Florida, and that's going to be great."

Dana White smiles.

38. "Well, we'll be together. I'm going to Camp David, meeting, a big meeting with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Camp David is this very special place that nobody ever gets to see, but it's a great work environment, and we're going to have meetings on different things, and our military has never looked better."

The question? "Mr. President, this Sunday is Mother's Day. What are your plans? What are you going to do for Melania?" So, his will be doing meetings to honor the first lady. Moms always do love a good meeting to celebrate Mother's Day. Also, according to CNN's Kate Bennett, Melania is not going to Camp David with the president. (He is returning to the White House Sunday morning.)

39. "I couldn't do any wrong, which is a big problem. Maybe that's why I ended up the way I ended up. I don't know. I couldn't do any wrong in her eyes."

Trump on his mom. Paging Dr. Freud...

40. 'Well you people are so professional you pretty much cleaned it. I think nobody wants to interview me now for the next two weeks or five weeks or whatever. That would be OK with me, by the way."

Yeah, this feels like a good place to end.

 

Why I don't watch Faux, reason #7,325,999,120

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I wonder if Twitler will go ballistic about this one too: "Member of Pence's staff tests positive for coronavirus"

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Washington (CNN)A member of Vice President Mike Pence's staff has tested positive for the coronavirus, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany confirmed Friday.

The announcement came following an hour-long delay to Pence's Friday morning flight to Iowa, when individuals were seen exiting Air Force Two before the plane lifted off of the tarmac at Joint Base Andrews just outside Washington.

A senior administration official told the press pool aboard Air Force Two that a Pence staffer tested negative for the coronavirus Thursday and positive Friday morning. The individual, who was not on the plane, had possibly been in contact with six people scheduled to fly on the trip, and they were removed before takeoff, according to a senior administration official.

Bloomberg News first reported the coronavirus case earlier Friday.

The vice president, who leads the White House coronavirus task force, traveled to Des Moines, Iowa, to participate in a discussion with faith leaders on responsible religious and spiritual gatherings, followed by a roundtable on securing the food supply.

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue, as well as Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst were also on Air Force Two with Pence for the trip.

About 10 members of Pence's staff are tested daily, the senior administration official told the press pool, adding that "the vice president and the President have not had contact with this person recently."

The official said Pence was last tested Friday morning.

Friday's case marks the second time the White House has said a Pence staff member has tested positive for the coronavirus. The first tested positive in March.

The new case of coronavirus among the vice president's staff comes a day after one of President Donald Trump's personal valets tested positive for the virus earlier this week.

The valets are members of an elite military unit dedicated to the White House who often work very close to the President and first family, assisting them with a variety of personal tasks. They are responsible for the President's food and beverage not only in the West Wing but they also travel with him when he's on the road or out of the country.

Trump was upset when he was informed Wednesday that the valet had tested positive, a source told CNN, and the President was subsequently tested again by the White House physician.

The President also said he'd had "very little personal contact" with the man.

Following the news of the valet's illness, Trump said he would be tested for the coronavirus daily. Pence, White House staff and individuals who come in contact with the President will be tested daily, too.

Trump said before traveling aboard Air Force One earlier this week that he was not concerned about being in close quarters with other people since those around him are regularly tested.

But a negative test and lack of symptoms are not sure signs that someone can't spread the virus.

Doctors say the incubation period for the coronavirus varies. The incubation period is the time that it takes from when you are exposed to the virus to developing symptoms. It ranges anywhere from 2-14 days. The average incubation period is estimated to be five days, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

During a recent trip to the Mayo Clinic, Pence did not wear a face mask, despite being told about the clinic's policy saying they're required. Pence told reporters that he wasn't wearing a mask because he's often tested for coronavirus. But a few days later, Pence said he should have worn a mask.

Trump also declined to wear a mask this week during portions of his tour of a mask-making facility in Arizona.

 

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1 hour ago, GreyhoundFan said:

I wonder if Twitler will go ballistic about this one too: "Member of Pence's staff tests positive for coronavirus"

 

First Trump's valet, now Pence's staffer... 

I don't wish ill on anyone, but with the way they are defying any and all logical protective measures, it seems it's only a matter of time before someone higher up in the administration gets infected.

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Here's Trump reacting to Pence's staffer testing positive. 

If you can't stand to listen to him contradicting himself and spouting idiocy, here's my transcript:


"Well, I don't know much about it... (looks around the room) Does anybody want to talk about it? It's... she's a wonderful young woman, uhm, Katie, she tested uh, very good for... a long period of time and all of a sudden today she tested positive. Uh.. she hasn't come into contact with me. She spent some time with the Vice President. Uh, it's uh... I believe the press person (looks around to an aide), right? You say press person. Uhm... so.. uh, she tested positive out of the blue. This is why the whole concept of tests aren't necessarily great. The tests are perfect. But something can happen between a test where it's good and then something happens and all of a sudden... she was tested very recently and tested negative. And then today I guess, she tested... for some reason she tested positive. So Mike knows about it, and Mike has uh... done what he has to do, I think he is, uh, on an aeroplane going to some far away place, but, uh.. you'll be able to ask him later on. But they've taken all the necessary precautions, uh.. I understand Mike has been tested, Vice President. And he tested negative."
 

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  • He has to ask an aide if it's press person
  • She tested positive out of the blue? No, moron, she tested positive because she got infected. Maybe even by her boss, who refuses to wear a mask when visiting the Mayo clinic. Also, I'm sure Fauci and Birx have mentioned asymptomatic infections. This is not out of the blue. 
  • ...the whole concept of tests aren't (btw, it's isn't, you fool, 'concept' is singular, not plural) necessarily great.
    Uh... I have no idea what the logic behind this thought is, nor what he's trying to say. 
  • ... something can happen between a test where it's good and then something happens... 
    It's called getting infected.
  • ...she tested.... for some reason she tested positive...
    Again, it's called getting infected.
  • ... Mike... I think he is... on an aeroplane going to some far away place..
    Trump doesn't even know where is veep is going 

I see @JMarie posted that it's Stephen Miller's wife? Oops. Because if she has it, the odds of Stephen also being infected are pretty high, them being newlyweds and all. I saw an article yesterday (was it here on FJ?) that there are indications that the corona virus can also be transmitted during intercourse... 

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I went looking and I found this article on possible sexual transmission:

The coronavirus can be found in semen, raising questions of whether it can be sexually transmitted, new research says

Although it's unsure if actual intercourse can transmit the virus, it is a fact that coming into contact with a patient's saliva can infect you. So... simply by kissing his wife, it's entirely possible Stephen is infected too. 

Do you think he'll go in to self-isolation now? Or will he go around the WH infecting others whilst coming up with new and cruel ways to stick it to the non-whites?

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Also, question asked on Ari Melber this evening.  Are the two infections (Katie Miller, valet) related or are they two completely separate infections?   If the former, extremely bad news for the West Wing.

The valet became ill on Tuesday.  Katie Miller is, so far, asymptomatic. 

The next two weeks are going to be very, very interesting. 

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He's doing shit like this, because he's going to run for president again. His nutjob daddy shook his Magic 8-Ball and it pinky-swore that Ted had been anointed by God to be the next president back in 2016. Since it's 2020 and Ted's still a senator, this should prove that Rafael Cruz's Magic 8-Ball is on the fritz, but we all know that it won't be that simple. Rafael's going to tell us how he shook his 8-Ball the wrong way, ate a bad burrito, or that God wanted to test his faith by lying to him, and that this time around, Ted's totally going to be elected president in 2024.

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7 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

25. "It's a much smarter enemy than the enemy, than the enemy that I had that we just discussed. Much, much smarter than those characters. That's a bunch of -- you know, those are people that are not in the same league. This is a very brilliant enemy and it happens to be invisible."

In sum: Coronavirus > "deep state." Also, much more invisible.

Dying laughing here. 

1 hour ago, Howl said:

Also, question asked on Ari Melber this evening.  Are the two infections (Katie Miller, valet) related or are they two completely separate infections?   If the former, extremely bad news for the West Wing.

The valet became ill on Tuesday.  Katie Miller is, so far, asymptomatic. 

The next two weeks are going to be very, very interesting. 

Very interesting indeed. If they're linked there's a really good chance that just about everyone at the top has been exposed. If they're unlinked, there's multiple points of infection, and... a really good chance that just about everyone at the top has been exposed.

5 hours ago, fraurosena said:

First Trump's valet, now Pence's staffer... 

I don't wish ill on anyone, but with the way they are defying any and all logical protective measures, it seems it's only a matter of time before someone higher up in the administration gets infected.

They quite likely already are. As long as it's not Fauci or any of the actually useful people... I could live with it. Although I admit, if both Trump and Pence become incapacitated and Pelosi has to take over? I could live with that.

40 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

He's doing shit like this, because he's going to run for president again.

Joining the list of "people I could live with being incapacitated by this virus".

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27 minutes ago, Ozlsn said:

Joining the list of "people I could live with being incapacitated by this virus".

I wouldn’t mind if one of them French kisses #MoscowMitch to share the virus.

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15 minutes ago, GreyhoundFan said:

I wouldn’t mind if one of them French kisses #MoscowMitch to share the virus.

I kind of feel that Trump etc. should be getting up close and personal with the Fox hosts too. I mean why practice social distancing yourselves if you're encouraging the peasants, sorry, public not to?

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2 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

I wouldn’t mind if one of them French kisses #MoscowMitch to share the virus.

Well, he is married to Trump’s Secretary of Transportation...

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Damn. I hope the people wearing masks were actually protected by them, especially because they don’t all seem to be 6 feet apart from her.

 

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Oh boy. Ivanka’s personal assistant tested positive too. And 11 secret service agents have it as well.

And Mark Esper thought it was a good idea to endanger WWII vets.

 

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10 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

 

He's doing shit like this, because he's going to run for president again. His nutjob daddy shook his Magic 8-Ball and it pinky-swore that Ted had been anointed by God to be the next president back in 2016. Since it's 2020 and Ted's still a senator, this should prove that Rafael Cruz's Magic 8-Ball is on the fritz, but we all know that it won't be that simple. Rafael's going to tell us how he shook his 8-Ball the wrong way, ate a bad burrito, or that God wanted to test his faith by lying to him, and that this time around, Ted's totally going to be elected president in 2024.

Meanwhile Ted got into a fight with Joe Scarborough. 

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MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough traded insults with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) over Twitter on Friday after Scarborough shared a misleading viral video of Vice President Mike Pence that has since been debunked.

Cruz called out “Morning Joe” host Scarborough in a tweet, saying it was “perhaps best not to forward fraudulent stories.”

In response, former GOP congressman Scarborough slammed Cruz for bowing to Donald Trump despite the president’s insulting of Cruz’s wife during the 2016 election and his spreading of a conspiracy theory involving Cruz’s father. 

“I went to University of Alabama and University of Florida. You’re a Harvard and Princeton boy who spends your life around lobbyists and billionaires,” he said. “You can cut out the man-of-the-people BS. Nobody believes anything you say.”

I love the smell of Republicans fighting the morning.  Smells like victory.

5 hours ago, fraurosena said:

And Mark Esper thought it was a good idea to endanger WWII vets.

 

I'm glad my Granddad who fought in World War II didn't live long enough to see that orange sack of shit in the White House.

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16 hours ago, fraurosena said:

I don't wish ill on anyone, but with the way they are defying any and all logical protective measures, ...

Usually I like to think I don't wish ill on anyone but right now I can't deny that I'm sitting here wondering if karma is going to come around and bite these assholes. As someone stated before the next two weeks will be interesting. 

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This is interesting.: "Eleven Secret Service agents test positive for COVID-19: report"

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Newly unveiled documents suggest nearly a dozen U.S. Secret Service members have tested positive for COVID-19, Yahoo News reports.

According to documents from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that were obtained by Yahoo News, there were 11 active cases at the agency as of Thursday. On top of those currently infected, another 23 Secret Service members have reportedly recovered from coronavirus. Another 60 employees are allegedly self-quarantining. 

It's not clear if any have recently been working at the White House or have had any contact with President Trump or Vice President Pence.

“To protect the privacy of our employee’s health information and for operational security, the Secret Service is not releasing how many of its employees have tested positive for COVID-19, nor how many of its employees were, or currently are, quarantined,” Justine Whelan, a Secret Service spokeswoman, told Yahoo News when asked about the documents.

The Secret Service did not immediately return The Hill's request for comment. 

News of coronavirus spreading among Secret Service members comes amid reports this week that multiple White House officials have tested positive for COVID-19. 

On Friday, it was revealed that Katie Miller, the vice president’s press secretary and the wife of senior White House adviser Stephen Miller, had contracted the virus. And on Thursday, one of the president’s personal valets tested positive after exhibiting symptoms of coronavirus earlier in the week.

Trump and Pence are both regularly tested for the virus, and neither has tested positive thus far. Trump said this week he will begin having daily, rather than weekly, tests following the cases within the White House. He has asserted he is not worried about the virus, and continues to attend meetings and events without wearing a face mask, despite Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines advising face coverings. 

“I’m not worried. But you know, look, I get things done. I don’t worry about things. I do what I have to do,” he said. “We’ve taken very strong precautions at the White House. But again, we're dealing with an invisible situation. Nobody knows.”

I realize the agents may or may not have been assigned to the protection unit, but it shows how the virus is getting into all levels of the government.

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Chris Murphy is spot on.

 

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19 hours ago, JMarie said:

I laughed for a while about this response;

 

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2 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

I realize the agents may or may not have been assigned to the protection unit, but it shows how the virus is getting into all levels of the government.

If it hasn't happened already, I figure we've got until Monday before there's a conspiracy theory about Democrats intentionally spreading the virus to White House employees. :pb_rollseyes:

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5 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

Trump said this week he will begin having daily, rather than weekly, tests

Nah, screw him. He refuses to take basic preventative measures, he can get a test when he's symptomatic like everyone else. Either stop the testing or stop pretending everything's fine to reopen.

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A Branch Covidian up in Michigan is in bit of trouble now.

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Censured Royal Oak City Commissioner Kim Gibbs has found herself in the news again, this time for being caught shoplifting.

The embattled elected official issued a statement Wednesday evening on the misdemeanor shoplifting offense.

Gibbs, a lawyer, was censured by the City Commission last month after she attended the April 15 "Operation Gridlock" rally in Lansing, where she was seen on TV without a face mask and not keeping social distance.

The rally protested Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's extension of her stay-at-home order to stem the spread of COVID-19.


 

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12 minutes ago, 47of74 said:

A Branch Covidian up in Michigan is in bit of trouble now.


 

So she really does think laws are for other people then? I don't know what a City Commissioner does exactly, but I suspect she won't be doing it much longer.

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I wonder who made the decision to start wearing masks...

 

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