2020 Presidential Election 2: The Primaries are upon us

[AuntK]

The fact that Trump would rather run against Bernie than Biden or any other Dem says it all. And the fact that Putin/Russia is doing their best to see that Bernie "wins" the nomination only adds to it. Doesn't anyone besides me wonder where all those "Bernie Bros" on Twitter come from?

Bernie is no Democrat, he's so divisive, so strident, and I just HATE his attacks on Biden and Warren. Also his voting history on Russian sanctions and other Russian issues is highly suspect.  His refusal to reveal his medical records at nearly 79 with a history of heart disease is also troubling. And reminiscent of you-know-who! Bernie, imo, is just bad news. We can, and should, do better after what we have endured the last 4 years!

[Marmion]

What I take issue with are the Republicans , such as my one neighbor , who has both a Trump banner , and a Trump campaign sign out on display . Like , the primary isn't even over yet , it will be held on March 17th , and Trump is running unopposed in the Republican primary .  Just wanted to get that off my chest .  Oh , and also , come what may , I will be glad when the November election rolls around , and campaign season is done , especially as the rest of my immediate family is staunchly Republican .  I might be given such a hard time by them , in the months to come . 

[SassyPants]

 Just want to thank Klobuchar and Pete for dropping out, and giving the boost to Biden. What a slap down for Bloomberg. I’m starting to think most did not appreciate or buy into Bloomberg’s schtick, TG.

[JenniferJuniper]

1 hour ago, SassyPants said:

 Just want to thank Klobuchar and Pete for dropping out, and giving the boost to Biden. What a slap down for Bloomberg. I’m starting to think most did not appreciate or buy into Bloomberg’s schtick, TG.

That helped, but I really feel as if a lot of Democrats decided to become suddenly pragmatic when the reality of Trump - Sanders election sunk in.  I held my nose and voted for Biden today.  I did it because Sanders won't beat Trump.  And beating Trump is all I care about right now. 

[Smee]

I find it soooo satisfying that Bloomberg appears to have gotten nowhere. I’m looking at the live results on the guardian website and he looks to be on track to win absolutely nothing.

I’m sad Warren also appears to be going nowhere and it will come down to two old white men. But that’s what’s happening, and at least both are miles better than Trump. 

[Rachel333]

I'm very happy with how things are going tonight.

And as a Pete fan, this got me

 

[Rachel333]

Woo pig

And this one is a surprise.

 

[nausicaa]

39 minutes ago, Smee said:

I find it soooo satisfying that Bloomberg appears to have gotten nowhere. I’m looking at the live results on the guardian website and he looks to be on track to win absolutely nothing.

Um, excuse you, he won American Samoa! If that isn't worth half a billion dollars, I don't know what is. 

17 minutes ago, Rachel333 said:

And this one is a surprise.

I actually gasped when I'd heard he'd won Minnesota. Guess that Klobentum finally picked up and worked for someone. 

[JenniferJuniper]

Massachusetts was pretty shocking too.  

Pragmatism. It's a good thing. 

[RosyDaisy]

*Joe Biden won in Alabama (damn...wanted Bernie Sanders)

*There will be a run off between Tommy Tubberville and Jeff Sessions for the Republican nomination for the Senate.  The winner will face Democrat Doug Jones in November.

*Mo Brooks keeps his 5th Congressional District House seat (my district).  I haven't checked the others yet.

For people who don't know Tommy Tubberville is the former head football coach at Auburn University and a Trump ass kisser.  

[Rachel333]

9 minutes ago, JenniferJuniper said:

Massachusetts was pretty shocking too.  

Pragmatism. It's a good thing. 

Yes, he was expected to come third in MA!

[nausicaa]

A couple random thoughts jumbling around in my head (cause I have like four thousand things to do for a trip I leave for tomorrow, so why not spend an hour pontificating on here):

1. Biden is so far doing better than Sanders with first time primary voters, 36% to 32%. Don't know what to make of that. 

2. Primary turnout in Virginia doubled from 2016. Damn. If that sort of turnout continues for November, Trump could be fucked. 

3. Warren currently has the same number of Super Tuesday delegates as Tulsi Gabbard. Damn. 

4. So many white Democrats still do not understand black Democrats. And (some) progressives need to stop dismissing how much work black women have put into building and sustaining the Dem coalition if they want make more headway. They could start with not dismissing them as some "pampered establishment."

5. I find Bloomberg such a fascinating case study for campaigns. He not only pumped insane amounts of money into ads and town halls, he hired tons of really good people to take polls, analyze demographics, and create beautifully done ads, memes, and profiles of him (all the more well done because of how little they had to work with in terms of content). And...nothing. The one good thing I can say about his campaign is he hired a lot of people who were new to the field, including a lot of women and minorities, and paid them very, very well. They got some good experience and produced some excellent portfolio pieces that I hope really help their careers. 

6. I hope whoever wins the nom does take some cues from Bloomberg's ads. Several are really well-done and well-targeted. Even better: I hope Bloomberg drops out tomorrow and starts pumping his money into the frontrunner's campaign.

7. I'm actually surprised Bloomberg didn't do better in Virginia. Biden only had one field office here. And Bloomberg pumped money into the state Democrats a few years ago to help flip the state house and push gun control, and is actually very well liked by a lot of local Dems because of that. 

8. Will Tulsi Gabbard just...go away. 

[nausicaa]

Damn. Wasserman is calling Texas for Biden. I don't think it's out of the park yet, but that would be even more shocking. 

And if my math is correct, Biden would have the delegate lead in California if not for Bloomberg?

 

[fraurosena]

Oh my! Kellyanne must be seething...

 

[Rachel333]

Yes, Biden being ahead in Texas is yet another big surprise for tonight. I knew that the events of the past few days indicated that Biden would do well tonight, but I definitely didn't predict he would be doing this well.

[fraurosena]

These are encouraging numbers. Keep this up in November and Trump is doomed.

 

[fraurosena]

 

[NakedKnees]

I know I'm not the only one here, but I do think its important to say: Bernie Sanders isn't just supported by bots and young white guys- to me, a female Latinx human, he is the single most important American politician in my lifetime. Demystifying socialism is so important to the big issues that face so much of the US: healthcare access, housing, education, and more. He's the perfect marriage of prominent and reflective of my ideology- which is no longer niche. I proudly voted for him (even though it was a struggle with Warren on the ticket- truly my perfect "middle ground" but not doing great) and I will proudly go "blue no matter who" in November, just like I did last election. This perspective very much exists.

Trump is a nightmare and I agree that it's important we get him out. That said, so many people voted for him because he wasn't establishment and I truly believe that energy can be harnessed for Bernie if we give him a chance and support savvy complimentary people around him.

/soapbox. Happy Super Tuesday

[Dandruff]

1 hour ago, nausicaa said:

I find Bloomberg such a fascinating case study for campaigns. He not only pumped insane amounts of money into ads and town halls, he hired tons of really good people to take polls, analyze demographics, and create beautifully done ads, memes, and profiles of him (all the more well done because of how little they had to work with in terms of content). And...nothing. The one good thing I can say about his campaign is he hired a lot of people who were new to the field, including a lot of women and minorities, and paid them very, very well. They got some good experience and produced some excellent portfolio pieces that I hope really help their careers.

I think it might boil down to him getting shredded by Warren two debates ago.  He seems to be technically brilliant, yet he wasn't prepared to have his vulnerabilities attacked when appearances really counted.  I suspect that if he had put in a decent performance at that debate we'd be looking at some very different numbers tonight.

[Rachel333]

1 hour ago, fraurosena said:

These are encouraging numbers. Keep this up in November and Trump is doomed.

 

I'm cautiously optimistic about November for the first time in a while, maybe ever.

[nausicaa]

The Texas primary has been called for Biden.

Damn. He might even get Maine. 

For the love of God, I need to go to bed. 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

7 minutes ago, nausicaa said:

The Texas primary has been called for Biden.

Damn. He might even get Maine. 

For the love of God, I need to go to bed. 

I hope you get some sleep if you're driving on your trip tomorrow.

 

[TuringMachine]

2 hours ago, Dandruff said:

I think it might boil down to him getting shredded by Warren two debates ago.  He seems to be technically brilliant, yet he wasn't prepared to have his vulnerabilities attacked when appearances really counted.  I suspect that if he had put in a decent performance at that debate we'd be looking at some very different numbers tonight.

I have a feeling he would have done fine debating petty dumb trump, he just wasn't prepared for debated people who weren't overgrown toddlers.

Edited March 4, 2020 by TuringMachine

[SassyPants]

Trump is what happened to Bloomberg. People realized that they are too close to being one and the same. 

[SassyPants]

Bloomberg is out!