Texas Senate Race: Beto O'Rourke vs. Ted Cruz

[Cartmann99]

 

[Howl]

Go, Beto! 

[Howl]

NYT thinks Beto is worthy of coverage, but only relative to white Evangelical women.  Interesting perspective from Ed Overbeek on this issue, so follow the thread. 

 

[AmazonGrace]

 

[Cartmann99]

Beto and Lyin' Ted have a debate scheduled for tonight at 8pm CT. The debate is being held in San Antonio, so be prepared for Lyin' Ted to hump The Alamo until someone sprays him with a garden hose.  

Please check your local listings if you live in Texas and want to watch this on television. Information about streaming options can be found in the tweet below:

 

[Howl]

1 hour ago, Cartmann99 said:

so be prepared for Lyin' Ted to hump The Alamo until someone sprays him with a garden hose.  

Oh, you!   This made me laugh so hard. Good to find humor in such crazy time. 

[Penny]

You can watch it online at wfaa.com.  I am counting down the days to go vote for him. 

[Cartmann99]

 

[Cartmann99]

 

[fraurosena]

Beto completely eviscerates Cruz in 90 seconds. Ouch.

Note that the only response Cruz has is to shake his head and laugh sheepishly.

[Cartmann99]

 

[GreyhoundFan]

I didn't watch the whole debate, but I love this part: "Simple Debate Question Stumps Ted Cruz Into 6 Seconds Of Painful Silence"

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It was the kind of softball question often used in debates to break up the tension and give the candidates a chance to show their personal sides. 

But for Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), one of those questions led to a long and awkward pause during his Tuesday night debate against Democratic challenger Rep. Beto O’Rourke.

The question: “Tell us something you’ve done in the last year that has nothing to do with politics that would give Texans insight to who you are as a person.” 

Cruz waited about six seconds, then let out a sigh as the audience laughed: 

... < video >

Cruz eventually talked about the difficulties of being a father while also serving in the U.S. Senate. He spoke of missing his daughters’ events and having to catch up with them via FaceTime.

O’Rourke agreed and spoke of missing time with his family as well as playing drums on a kit “ostensibly purchased for (son) Henry but was really purchased for me.”

But it was Cruz’s six seconds of silence that had people on Twitter talking: 

... < great twitter responses >

 

[GreyhoundFan]

He's right about one thing: Rafael and Beto aren't in the same league. Beto is about 10,000 leagues better.

[GreyhoundFan]

The pep rally is being moved: "Trump moves Texas rally for Cruz, citing ‘huge and unprecedented’ response"

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President Donald Trump has moved his Texas rally for Sen. Ted Cruz’s reelection campaign to a larger venue because of what a top aide called “huge and unprecedented” ticket sales.

“Response for tickets to #MAGA rally #Houston Mon 10/22 has been HUGE and unprecedented!” Brad Parscale, Trump’s 2020 campaign manager, wrote on Twitter on Thursday. “This will be an epic rally, so we’re moving to @ToyotaCenter. Want to make sure everyone coming knows the venue changed!”

The president has fumed over reports about the relatively small crowd size for his inauguration, and since then has taken issue with media reports accusing him of inflating crowd sizes.

Trump tweeted in late August that he would headline a “major rally” for Cruz, who faces Democratic Rep. Beto O’Rourke of El Paso, by picking “the biggest stadium in Texas” he could find. “As you know, Ted has my complete and total Endorsement,” he wrote. “His opponent is a disaster for Texas — weak on Second Amendment, Crime, Borders, Military, and Vets!”

The Trump campaign originally chose Houston’s NRG Arena, which can hold 8,000, and then abruptly changed locations on Thursday to the Toyota Center, which can hold 19,000, according to its website.

The largest stadium in Texas, and the fourth-largest nationally, is Kyle Field at Texas A&M University, which can hold 102,995.

 

[Cartmann99]

28 minutes ago, GreyhoundFan said:

The pep rally is being moved: "Trump moves Texas rally for Cruz, citing ‘huge and unprecedented’ response"

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President Donald Trump has moved his Texas rally for Sen. Ted Cruz’s reelection campaign to a larger venue because of what a top aide called “huge and unprecedented” ticket sales.

“Response for tickets to #MAGA rally #Houston Mon 10/22 has been HUGE and unprecedented!” Brad Parscale, Trump’s 2020 campaign manager, wrote on Twitter on Thursday. “This will be an epic rally, so we’re moving to @ToyotaCenter. Want to make sure everyone coming knows the venue changed!”

The president has fumed over reports about the relatively small crowd size for his inauguration, and since then has taken issue with media reports accusing him of inflating crowd sizes.

Trump tweeted in late August that he would headline a “major rally” for Cruz, who faces Democratic Rep. Beto O’Rourke of El Paso, by picking “the biggest stadium in Texas” he could find. “As you know, Ted has my complete and total Endorsement,” he wrote. “His opponent is a disaster for Texas — weak on Second Amendment, Crime, Borders, Military, and Vets!”

The Trump campaign originally chose Houston’s NRG Arena, which can hold 8,000, and then abruptly changed locations on Thursday to the Toyota Center, which can hold 19,000, according to its website.

The largest stadium in Texas, and the fourth-largest nationally, is Kyle Field at Texas A&M University, which can hold 102,995.

 

If the Toyota Center was available, why didn't they reserve it from the beginning? 

[GreyhoundFan]

1 hour ago, Cartmann99 said:

If the Toyota Center was available, why didn't they reserve it from the beginning? 

So Dumpy could brag that, because of him, demand for tickets necessitated moving the pep rally to a larger venue.

[Flossie]

How much are these tickets?  Are they reserved and paid for at the gate, or do they have to be paid for in advance.  I think it would be funny for people to reserve tickets and not show up, or show up and sit quietly in their seats looking bored, playing on their cell phones, or chatting with each other about mundane things like the weather, etc.

[Alisamer]

Maybe they had more people willing to come cheer for pay than they'd expected?

[Cartmann99]

55 minutes ago, Flossie said:

How much are these tickets?  Are they reserved and paid for at the gate, or do they have to be paid for in advance.  I think it would be funny for people to reserve tickets and not show up, or show up and sit quietly in their seats looking bored, playing on their cell phones, or chatting with each other about mundane things like the weather, etc.

The rallies are free, but you have to give them your cellphone number when you register, so you will get messages from his campaign until you opt-out. From what we've seen from previous rallies, they reserve the right to escort you out if you don't show the proper devotion to Dear Leader.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/rallies/?utm_medium=web&amp;utm_source=djt_web&amp;utm_content=main_menu

 

[Flossie]

So let them spend all their time slowly weeding out the audience.  If it weren't for Trumps well-known habit of encouraging violence, it would be worth it to see people slowly wandering out mere minutes after the rally began.

[Audrey2]

47 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

The rallies are free, but you have to give them your cellphone number when you register, so you will get messages from his campaign until you opt-out. From what we've seen from previous rallies, they reserve the right to escort you out if you don't show the proper devotion to Dear Leader.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/rallies/?utm_medium=web&amp;utm_source=djt_web&amp;utm_content=main_menu

 

Hmmmm...burner phone, anyone?

[fraurosena]

21 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

If the Toyota Center was available, why didn't they reserve it from the beginning? 

I'm willing to bet that they did, precisely because of what @GreyhoundFan said. 

20 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

So Dumpy could brag that, because of him, demand for tickets necessitated moving the pep rally to a larger venue.

 

[Audrey2]

34 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

I'm willing to bet that they did, precisely because of what @GreyhoundFan said. 

 

Conversely, if they didn't get the crowds they thought they should have, then they would still have what appeared to be a full venue. 

[Cartmann99]

That feeling when your hometown paper endorses the guy who lives 750 miles and another time zone away from you:

[Cartmann99]

The whole thing:

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For U.S. Senate: Beto O'Rourke

United States Senator: Beto O'Rourke

Ted Cruz - Republican Party: ★★

Beto O'Rourke - Democratic Party: ★★★★1/2

The collective swoon that U.S. Senate candidate Beto O'Rourke has aroused among victory-starved Democrats nationwide recalls, even as it far exceeds, the fleeting infatuation that attached itself to another Texas politician not long ago. A Democratic gubernatorial candidate known for her 13-hour filibuster on the floor of the state Senate against stringent anti-abortion legislation, as well as for her watermelon-hued running shoes, she drew the same sort of clamorous attention that O'Rourke is getting this year.

As it turned out, of course, the Wendy Davis crush couldn't survive another sort of crush – an ignominious 22-point loss to her 2014 Republican opponent, then-Attorney General Greg Abbott.

A similar fate may await O'Rourke in this still-fervid red state, despite the charismatic El Pasoan's attention-getting and indefatigable campaign, the ubiquitous black-and-white "BETO" signs in yards across the state and an astounding fund-raising operation that has raised close to $40 million while eschewing money from political action committees. Impressive, yes, but Lone Star State Democrats have learned not to get starry-eyed during their nearly quarter-century sojourn in the political wilderness.

With eyes clear but certainly not starry, we enthusiastically endorse Beto O'Rourke for U.S. Senate. The West Texas congressman's command of issues that matter to this state, his unaffected eloquence and his eagerness to reach out to all Texans make him one of the most impressive candidates this editorial board has encountered in many years. Despite the long odds he faces – pollster nonpareil Nate Silver gives O'Rourke a 20 percent chance of winning – a "Beto" victory would be good for Texas, not only because of his skills, both personal and political, but also because of the manifest inadequacies of the man he would replace.

Ted Cruz — a candidate the Chronicle endorsed in 2012, by the way — is the junior senator from Texas in name only. Exhibiting little interest in addressing the needs of his fellow Texans during his six years in office, he has kept his eyes on a higher prize. He's been running for president since he took the oath of office — more likely since he picked up his class schedule as a 15-year-old ninth-grader at Houston's Second Baptist High School more than three decades ago. For Cruz, public office is a private quest; the needs of his constituents are secondary.

It was the rookie Cruz, riding high after a double-digit win in 2012, who brazenly took the lead in a 2013 federal government shutdown, an exercise in self-aggrandizement that he hoped would lead to the repeal of the Affordable Care Act. Cruz, instead, undercut the economy, cost taxpayers an estimated $2 billion (and inflicted his reading of Dr. Seuss's "Green Eggs and Ham" on an unamused nation). Maybe the senator succeeded in cementing in his obstructionist tea party bona fides, but we don't recall Texans clamoring for such an ill-considered, self-serving stunt.

Cruz's very first vote as senator was a "nay" on the Disaster Relief Appropriations Act, a bill authorizing $60 billion for relief agencies working to address the needs of Hurricane Sandy victims. More than a few of Cruz's congressional colleagues reminded him of that vote when he came seeking support for Hurricane Harvey relief efforts. Cruz's Texas cohort, U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, was effective in those efforts; the junior senator was not.

Voters don't send representatives to Washington to win popularity contests, and yet the bipartisan disdain the Republican incumbent elicits from his colleagues, remarkable in its intensity, deserves noting. His repellent personality hamstrings his ability to do the job.

"Lucifer in the flesh," is how Republican former House Speaker John Boehner described Cruz, adding: "I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life."

Lindsey Graham, Republican senator from South Carolina, famously said: "If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you."

Graham, of course, was being facetious — we think — and yet Cruz's off-putting approach works to the detriment of his constituents. His colleagues know that Cruz works for Cruz, first and foremost.

Former U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, a Texas Republican who was adept at tending to Texan needs and who worked tirelessly on the state's behalf, once reminded the Chronicle editorial board that Cruz would have to decide where his loyalties lay when he got to Washington: with fellow Texans or fellow obstructionist ideologues. Six years later, it's obvious he's decided.

Cruz's challenger is running as an unapologetic progressive. He supports comprehensive immigration reform, including a solution to the Dreamer dilemma; health care for all; an end to the war on drugs (including legalizing marijuana); sensible (and constitutional) gun control, and other issues that place him in the Democratic mainstream this political season.

What sets O'Rourke apart, aside from the remarkable campaign he's running, are policy positions in keeping with a candidate duly aware of the traditionally conservative Texas voter he would be representing in the U.S. Senate. Representing a congressional district that includes Fort Bliss and numerous military retirees, he has focused on improving the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, with special attention to mental health. He's a strong believer in free trade and global markets, an economic position that should appeal to pragmatic Houston business interests.

As a lifelong border resident, O'Rourke supports our trade ties with Mexico and our need to sustain and encourage those ties (despite the anti-Mexican malice that emanates from the White House). In fact, he once partnered with Cornyn on a bill to improve those economically critical border crossings. He opposes Trump's wall, not only because it's an absurd and colossal waste, but also because he objects to the government's use of eminent domain.

"While he may look like the second coming of Bobby Kennedy to D.C. pundits," political scientist Jay Aiyer of Texas Southern University has written, "Texans can see that O'Rourke has more in common with the politics and approach of former Lt. Gov. Bill Hobby, who advocated for modernizing Texas through bipartisan cooperation during his time leading the Texas Senate."

Aiyer also compares O'Rourke to Lloyd Bentsen, Ann Richards and Mark White – reform-minded Democrats all, "who recognized the need to expand opportunities systematically when leading a conservative state."

There's one more reason O'Rourke should represent Texas in the U.S. Senate: He would help to serve as a check on a president who is a danger to the republic. Cruz is unwilling to take on that responsibility. Indeed, the man who delighted in calling the Texas senator "Lyin' Ted" all through the 2016 presidential campaign, who insulted Cruz's wife and his father, is bringing his traveling campaign medicine show to Houston next week to buoy the Cruz campaign. The hyperbole, the hypocrisy and the rancorous hot air just might blow the roof off the Toyota Center.

While the bloviations emanate from the arena next week, imagine how refreshing it would be to have a U.S. senator who not only knows the issues but respects the opposition, who takes firm positions but reaches out to those who disagree, who expects to make government work for Texas and the nation. Beto O'Rourke, we believe, is that senator.