Maxwell 20: Fun just dies

[Sister Mozz]

2 hours ago, IReallyAmHopewell said:

Person probably isn't allowed to view anything but other ATI/IBLP family blogs. Google could take them to the anti-Christ

 

Yes, how else would they know the pizza crust recipe was from a holy and pure source and not, you know, from some worldly working person of various persuasions??  

[FloraDoraDolly]

4 minutes ago, Sister Mozz said:

 

Yes, how else would they know the pizza crust recipe was from a holy and pure source and not, you know, from some worldly working person of various persuasions??  

Yeah, they gotta be especially careful with pizza. It's Italian, after all, and that usually means Catholic!

[SPHASH]

I hate the term "practical gift".  Even gifts can't be fun in Maxhell.

[PennySycamore]

@FloraDoraDolly, even worse than it maybe being a recipe from a Catholic, it might be a recipe from a gay or lesbian chef!

[IReallyAmHopewell]

Steve apparently has to limit his word count.  So who decides how many words are too many? Him--right? Or is it the BIG HIM? Does God say "Steve-arino, time to shut up?"

Sarah wanting to save families "heartache"..... wow. Just wow.

 

 

[catlady]

Sarah is going to post more Random Life next week. I wonder how many grammatical errors and incomplete sentences there will be. 

[formergothardite]

How long will we have to wait to get the Godly Pizza Crust recipe? 

So computers are only for work and they do nothing fun on them? Steve isn't happy unless everyone is miserable. 

[Eternalbluepearl]

9 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

So computers are only for work and they do nothing fun on them? Steve isn't happy unless everyone is miserable. 

Christians believe that if Jesus is your savior, you will go to heaven right? So is there an extra special level of heaven for those who believed in Jesus and also didn't have fun? A VIP room of sorts? What is it Steve is reaching for? 

 

[IReallyAmHopewell]

11 minutes ago, Eternalbluepearl said:

Christians believe that if Jesus is your savior, you will go to heaven right? So is there an extra special level of heaven for those who believed in Jesus and also didn't have fun? A VIP room of sorts? What is it Steve is reaching for? 

 

Steve wants to BE Jesus--his version at least. Not mine.

[Jana814]

1 minute ago, IReallyAmHopewell said:

Steve wants to BE Jesus--his version at least. 

I wish I could like this comment 1,000 times. This is completely true not only with Steve Maxwell but also Steven Anderson!  

[Alisamer]

18 minutes ago, Eternalbluepearl said:

Christians believe that if Jesus is your savior, you will go to heaven right? So is there an extra special level of heaven for those who believed in Jesus and also didn't have fun? A VIP room of sorts? What is it Steve is reaching for? 

 

I believe God does probably have a very special (possibly very hot) place set aside for people like Steve, who not only cherry pick and add to the gospel, but also promote their own brand of christianity and hurt other people (including their own children) in the process. I'm not sure how much Steve-o will like hanging out in the afterlife with the likes of Jim Jones and David Koresh, that Westboro Church guy, PP, Lori Alexander and Jim-Bob Duggar, however. (Yeah, I know, some are worse than others... but they still tried to become their own Jesus.)

[Black Aliss]

15 hours ago, PennySycamore said:

@FloraDoraDolly, even worse than it maybe being a recipe from a Catholic, it might be a recipe from a gay or lesbian chef!

Or from King Arthur. Thou shalt have no Kings except King James, you know.

Full disclosure: This is not the pizza dough recipe I use. Mine is 1# flour (preferably Italian 00), 1 cup water, 1 tsp salt, 2 TBSP olive oil, 2 tsp instant yeast. Sugar in pizza crust is an abomination.

[Coconutwater]

3 hours ago, Eternalbluepearl said:

Christians believe that if Jesus is your savior, you will go to heaven right? So is there an extra special level of heaven for those who believed in Jesus and also didn't have fun? A VIP room of sorts? What is it Steve is reaching for? 

 

I’ve been reading through the old blog posts when I can’t sleep (and it works) in one of them Steve says something about how on earth you are supposed to work and can rest and have fun in heaven or something to that effect.

His kids will make heaven lit since they’ve had zero fun on earth...

[Koala]

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A chainsaw is a powerful tool, but it can also be very dangerous to an unskilled and unprotected user.

I see what you did there, Steve.  Your computer is the chainsaw, and your nearly 40 year old daughter and all of her adult siblings are the unskilled users.  Very clever.

Here's a scary thought-  You daughter is almost 40.  Did I mention that already?  Because, yeah...ALMOST 40.  And you?  We'll, you and her mother are pretending that she's 10.  It's easy to do that, because she's running around w/ bows in her hair, eating animal crackers, and sharing a room with her two adult sisters.  

Yes, that's right.  You have a roomful of adult women in your house, all seemingly content to carry on as children.  Nothing odd there at all. 

Which leads to my question- Did you plan to steal their lives?  When you unleashed all of your batshit crazy, did you know that they would never live their lives as adults?  Did you always plan to have them live under your roof and your rule?  Did you know you'd never allow them to have husbands or kids of their own? 

Because I think you did.  I think you always knew that you were never letting them go, and that?  That disgusts me beyond belief.

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No one considers an entertainment toy as dangerous. Right? No, wrong. It is terribly dangerous.

Yeah, this sounds like something a deranged lunatic would write, but carry on.  Your crazy is showing nice and clear.

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Therefore, safeguards are required not just a good idea, but required. No one is above temptation. 

Yes, I suspected when Teri claimed that 4 grown adults wanted her to monitor their internet usage that it was a lie.  They don't want it.  They don't get to want or not want anything.  They simply do what you and Teri require of them.

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Our family’s computers are not used for play or entertainment

Steve?  The only family you and Teri should be making computer choices for are you and Teri.  Your "children" are adults, and what you are doing is twisted and ridiculous.  

[Lgirlrocks]

I know this won’t get posted but I had to comment on it. This is rediculous and comes down to bad parenting. If you can’t trust your kids then you failed them somehow. Yes kids are going to do things on their own and mess up and loose some trust from their parents but overall if you have to monitor everything they did then it is on you. 

Steve did a post, can’t remember if it was the weekly email or a blog post, about his wife’s high school friend wanting to take her out to dinner. It was a male friend and Steve said no because it didn’t look right. He said it wasn’t about trust at all. I find that hard to believe. If they go out to a public place to eat there are people there to keep them from doing anything and as long as nothing happens no one will look at it as bad. The easiest solution is to have the guy to the house or for Steve to go out with them. Instead of doing either he simply said no and it never happened. This guy is rediculous. 

[Tatar-tot]

1 hour ago, Lgirlrocks said:

I know this won’t get posted but I had to comment on it. This is rediculous and comes down to bad parenting. If you can’t trust your kids then you failed them somehow. Yes kids are going to do things on their own and mess up and loose some trust from their parents but overall if you have to monitor everything they did then it is on you. 

Steve did a post, can’t remember if it was the weekly email or a blog post, about his wife’s high school friend wanting to take her out to dinner. It was a male friend and Steve said no because it didn’t look right. He said it wasn’t about trust at all. I find that hard to believe. If they go out to a public place to eat there are people there to keep them from doing anything and as long as nothing happens no one will look at it as bad. The easiest solution is to have the guy to the house or for Steve to go out with them. Instead of doing either he simply said no and it never happened. This guy is rediculous. 

That was my thoughts exactly.  The only porn my husband looks at is Real Estate. He is addicted to Zillow & Realtor.com. I cannot fatham what on earth Steve’s natural tendencies are that he feels he needs to be monitored.  Maybe he wants to go on Match.Com & find a new wife?  

FYI Steve:  THERE IS NO MONITORING PACKAGE THAT CANNOT BE CIRCUMVENTED.

Easiest Way:  Restore your phone to factory setting and break from the cloud.  Given how computer savvy your boys are I am sure they have a million tricks up their sleeves.  

Steve you really are an ignorant fool! 

[Dandruff]

On 5/4/2018 at 12:28 PM, Eternalbluepearl said:

Christians believe that if Jesus is your savior, you will go to heaven right? So is there an extra special level of heaven for those who believed in Jesus and also didn't have fun? A VIP room of sorts? What is it Steve is reaching for? 

 

Yeah, I think Steve will get his own room.  Heaven wouldn't be much of a destination if he was there.

[meee]

On ‎5‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 6:26 AM, Koala said:

I see what you did there, Steve.  Your computer is the chainsaw, and your nearly 40 year old daughter and all of her adult siblings are the unskilled users.  Very clever.

Here's a scary thought-  You daughter is almost 40.  Did I mention that already?  Because, yeah...ALMOST 40.  And you?  We'll, you and her mother are pretending that she's 10.  It's easy to do that, because she's running around w/ bows in her hair, eating animal crackers, and sharing a room with her two adult sisters.  

Yes, that's right.  You have a roomful of adult women in your house, all seemingly content to carry on as children.  Nothing odd there at all. 

Which leads to my question- Did you plan to steal their lives?  When you unleashed all of your batshit crazy, did you know that they would never live their lives as adults?  Did you always plan to have them live under your roof and your rule?  Did you know you'd never allow them to have husbands or kids of their own? 

Because I think you did.  I think you always knew that you were never letting them go, and that?  That disgusts me beyond belief.

Honestly, I'm not convinced. I don't know one brand of conservative Christianity from another, so I can't say that Steve is literally Quiverfull, but in these "have large families, eschew birth control whenever possible" type movements, they don't just want children, they want grandchildren. And if Steve really is the head of his own church, and bordering on a cult, wouldn't he want more followers? And, more to the point, not to be seen as a failure to his blog audience? I think it's more likely that they haven't yet found a guy they deem good enough for Sarah, or that Sarah herself is too scared to say yes if asked.

[Foudeb]

@meee it's not just Sarah though - Anna at 25 (when most fundy women are married with 2-3 kids) is still at home, never been courted, never taken to churches, gatherings, friends families etc where she could meet someone. Ditto for Mary at 21. At John's wedding they were paired up with much younger groomsmen and at the reception, made to babysit the littles. Not one chance to have the beginning of a conversation with someone they're not related to. 

It wouldn't even take that much - they now have enough in-laws, i.e. Pre-vetted non-related acquaintances, to make introductions easy. Don't tell me Melanie, NR Anna, Elissa, Chelsey etc don't have cousins, brothers' friends from church etc that would be suitable courting material. All it would take is a veiled hint to invite them over for a short stay. Steve is maintaining a iron fist of isolation on his women here.

The FJ hypothesis on this is that his married sons stay Maxwells who produce more little Maxwells whereas his daughters, if married, would become mrs someone else and produce another patriarchs' quiver, meaning a net loss for the Maxwells in the great heavenly count of whose scrotum produced the most grandkids. 

Your mistake here is viewing women as people rather than walking wombs who belong to their husbands. Slippery slope to advocating for access to birth control there, watch out! 

[Bajovane]

Re the pizza crust - I'm reading that comment asking for the recipe as pure snark.  I have...ahem... made similar comments in the past not only at Maxhell but over at JRod's making huge mountains out of something so fucking mundane in hopes they make a post about it.  I wish I had seen the pizza crust thingy because this would be totally something I'd have written.

I can't wait to see the tutorial about pizza crust. 

As for Anna and Mary never meeting anyone.  I was thinking about the wedding and how the girls spent 99% of their time babysitting the littles at the reception.  They will never meet anyone that way and I'm convinced as well that is exactly what Stevehova Shithead wants.  He probably has them so scared of men outside family that they prefer to spend their time tending the little kids at big events like weddings.  For women in their early 20s  - that is just not normal.  It's sad and pathetic and they are just too damn ignorant to realize what their father has done.  Sarah, I suspect DOES know but well - at nearly 40, what is she going to do?  What a sad, lonely life for them.

A while back (I may have written about this somewhere) I had a dream where one of the girls (probably Sarah) went to the library secretly to look up a few things.  This led to her somehow leaving and finding a place of her own and in doing so, encouraged the rest to follow to do the same things for themselves - including Teri.  Steve was so upset he went to the bathroom to pout.  (I dream weird)

Fast forward a little bit - Sarah was looking forward to buying her first television set.  Her apartment was mostly bare, save for a few bits and pieces but she decided she really wanted that tv set.  Somehow during all this, she discovered her apartment was being bugged - she knew it was her father and it scared her.  Steve was plotting to have her forcefully taken home and she absolutely did NOT want to go back.

That's when I woke up, so I don't know the end result.

 

[anjulibai]

4 hours ago, meee said:

Honestly, I'm not convinced. I don't know one brand of conservative Christianity from another, so I can't say that Steve is literally Quiverfull, but in these "have large families, eschew birth control whenever possible" type movements, they don't just want children, they want grandchildren. And if Steve really is the head of his own church, and bordering on a cult, wouldn't he want more followers? And, more to the point, not to be seen as a failure to his blog audience? I think it's more likely that they haven't yet found a guy they deem good enough for Sarah, or that Sarah herself is too scared to say yes if asked.

 

If the Maxwell daughters get married, they will no longer be Maxwells. Their children will not be Maxwells. 

And Steve is obsessed with his name, and with his family. He likes being able to look at his family and seeing all the Maxwells that are "his". If he has non-Maxwell grandchildren, they won't be his. They'd be some other patriarch's. 

It's all about control. He can't lose control of his daughters and their potential offspring. 

[HoneyBunny]

When I read in (I think it was) one of Teri’s Moms Corners that the girls had already discussed and decided that they wanted to live together in the family house after Steve and Teri were gone...well, that told me that it’s a foregone conclusion that those women will never be getting married. 

[Palimpsest]

4 hours ago, Foudeb said:

it's not just Sarah though - Anna at 25 (when most fundy women are married with 2-3 kids) is still at home,

I'm not sure this is true.  I think perceptions may have been skewed because the Duggars and Bateses have been busily marrying off child brides recently.  My perception is that most Fundie brides are married off in their early to mid-twenties, and usually (but not always) to the first bidder.   Where's @Bethella when I need her?  She keeps the stats!  

We are still looking at the first generation brought up under these ridiculous courtship rules, and the Maxwells represent the first wave.  There are still many young Fundie SAHDs still stuck serving at home waiting for Prince Charming.   So many that IBLP is even running workshops to encourage them to keep sweet during the lengthy waiting period.  For every teen bride I can name 2 that are still waiting in their late 20s.

Their problem is that they are not allowed to show interest, and are supposed to wait until the man notices them, is approved by Daddy, and then courtship commences and doesn't always work.  Meanwhile, a lot of eligible Fundie men are seeking brides and marrying outside the cult.

As for Steve, it may be control.  It may be a reluctance to let his daughters go.  It may that his requirements are so strict that he scares off potential suitors. 

However, it may be that he is fervently praying that Sarah, Anna and Mary can find husbands, but also believes that God will drop them on his doorstep tomorrow.

Sorry, Steve.  It doesn't work that way.  If he wants them to get married he needs to get proactive and put some effort into it.  Right now, his daughters are scared to be around men,  scared to show interest, and he keeps them away from most situations where they could meet men.  They aren't going to meet them at Nursing Home Church, for sure.  Also, as already noted, Anna and Mary scuttled off to take care of little kids when at a wedding loaded with eligible bachelors.

He needs to try to get at least one of them married to maintain credibility with his followers.

22 minutes ago, HoneyBunny said:

When I read in (I think it was) one of Teri’s Moms Corners that the girls had already discussed and decided that they wanted to live together in the family house after Steve and Teri were gone...well, that told me that it’s a foregone conclusion that those women will never be getting married. 

Not quite.  They said that if the daughters remained unmarried then they would prefer living together at home to going out on their own.   The stated goal is still marriage for all of the daughters, with some fluff about God's will.

Here's the post, and it is a few years old.  Perhaps they no longer feel that way.  http://articles.titus2.com/older-daughters-living-at-home/

[Black Aliss]

3 hours ago, anjulibai said:

If the Maxwell daughters get married, they will no longer be Maxwells. Their children will not be Maxwells. 

And Steve is obsessed with his name, and with his family. He likes being able to look at his family and seeing all the Maxwells that are "his". If he has non-Maxwell grandchildren, they won't be his. They'd be some other patriarch's. 

It's all about control. He can't lose control of his daughters and their potential offspring. 

If not for the patriarchy the daughters could keep their maiden names and the children could even be given the last name of Maxwell.

I suspect a greater challenge is Steve's insistence that the prospective suitor must be able to pay cash for a house that is within easy walking distance of the fathership, and not work at a job where he would come into contact with women or, God forbid, have to report to one.

I sometimes wonder which dark corner of the internet Steve would be drawn to were there no curbs on him. Which subreddit? Or would he head straight to 4chan? Grindr?

[dripcurl]

1 hour ago, Black Aliss said:

I sometimes wonder which dark corner of the internet Steve would be drawn to were there no curbs on him. Which subreddit? Or would he head straight to 4chan? Grindr?

I actually think Steve wouldn't be drawn to anything like that. Not because I think he is pure at heart, but because I think he is an extremely broken person who worships "purity", practicality, and control. That is his religion, not Jesus. He has conditioned his own mind and his family's mind for a reason. Unlike Boob and the other major fundy patriarchs, I don't believe Steve puts on a show. I firmly believe he is someone who has chosen this way of thinking and life to cope with mental illness. Every move he and his family makes is free from corruption thanks to his hard work. To him, the human mind is inherently evil and people cannot be trusted if they are outside of this sort of discipline he has rigged up.

 

I feel like he is broken by the military, yet he uses those methods to continue to break himself and his family for a different cause. It is very twisted and sad.