Lori Alexander 41: The Uninformed Wife

[fluffy]

Oh I spied a little spat on Facebook. Lori posted something about not pulling dandelions because they are the first spring food for bees, and Ken responded: "This sounds like a Progressive's comment... There are two hundred flowers just in our yard for the bees, and now we are not to pull the weeds? I had not heard the bees were going hungry, but my guess is that if everyone would pull their dandelions from their chemically sprayed yards it could help save the bee population." 

First off, "a Progressive"? Is that like a Communist? How I wish one of their sons or daughters had married "A Progressive"! Or better yet, became one. 

Also, you must be living under a rock to not know that bees are in trouble in America. I have no clue if this post by Lori contains correct information, but Ken shows he's utterly disconnected from anything other than squirreling away as much money as possible. He has no soul and no values other than greed & misogyny. 

And man, those bees better not be freeloading in Kenny Boy's yard. Who gets mad at bees? "And now we are not to pull the weeds?" Yeah, those lousy greedy honey bees demanding things left and right ... 

The man is an asswipe. 

[cara]

2 hours ago, fluffy said:

Oh I spied a little spat on Facebook. Lori posted something about not pulling dandelions because they are the first spring food for bees, and Ken responded: "This sounds like a Progressive's comment... There are two hundred flowers just in our yard for the bees, and now we are not to pull the weeds? I had not heard the bees were going hungry, but my guess is that if everyone would pull their dandelions from their chemically sprayed yards it could help save the bee population." 

First off, "a Progressive"? Is that like a Communist? How I wish one of their sons or daughters had married "A Progressive"! Or better yet, became one. 

Also, you must be living under a rock to not know that bees are in trouble in America. I have no clue if this post by Lori contains correct information, but Ken shows he's utterly disconnected from anything other than squirreling away as much money as possible. He has no soul and no values other than greed & misogyny. 

And man, those bees better not be freeloading in Kenny Boy's yard. Who gets mad at bees? "And now we are not to pull the weeds?" Yeah, those lousy greedy honey bees demanding things left and right ... 

The man is an asswipe. 

Wow Ken's a d**k for snapping at his wife in public like that. And for once she was saying something somewhat nice/sensible. 

[Liza]

14 hours ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

am not a violent person. I do not advocate physical violence. However, when Lori mentions disciplining children, we all know she means beating them with a leather strap. Which of course Lori says only stings for a moment.

We also know LoriKen took turns over 4 hours beating one of their children because of spilled raisins.  Lori wrote on the old blog that her sons admitted Ken left bruises when he punished them.

Yes, and flicking an infant's cheek for biting while nursing   ("I wasn't going to put up with that",said Lori), or using a 12" leather strap that stung so bad you 'didn't have to use it often' ... hmmn, somehow I really doubt that.  I also doubt that she only spanked a few times.  I think she had to be doing it for years. 

I read one of her stories about her interaction with a complete stranger in a park.  His daughter was "acting up" and he said that he and his wife don''t smack/hit/beat because his wife learned in psychology it doesn't work and is bad.  So Lori told this man "don't  you know that you are the man of the house and you can tell your wife what to do?    She then proclaims that the man was stunned" .    My guess is he was stunned at the insane remarks she was making.

Lori is sick and twisted   Parents who use the Pearls' methods should be subjected to a pain equal to the pain they have inflicted on their child (what size rod would  it take?).   Would that stop the evil, sick and demented things they do?   And yeah, Lor is a liar.  In one post she says ... oh it hardly hurt them at all and yet in another she says she rarely had to use the belt on those babies because it hurt (stung) so bad.  

Lori you say you STOPPED when they were 5 years old? The question is why would anyone beat a baby, a toddler over and over again,or for that matter, a child of any age?  Makes me sick!  And the worst is that these kids (not all) grow up and they repeat the cycle of abuse.  Not just physical, but emotional and spiritual.  Telling  your grand-daughter that the snake in the Bible is going to get her is abuse!!   Proudly bragging that your son force-fed your grandchild is just sick.  

The things Lori advocates for women and children remind me of the Taliban.  Fundamentalism in all religions is a sickness.   The focus is on what is evil and what is sin and sex is a huge obsession.  There is no Jesus in them ...  no compassion, no mercy, no justice.   Fundamentalism in all religions is an evil thing.   

 

26 minutes ago, cara said:

First off, "a Progressive"? Is that like a Communist? How I wish one of their sons or daughters had married "A Progressive"! Or better yet, became one. 

Me too!

[IntrinsicallyDisordered]

9 hours ago, Lgirlrocks said:

They like to use this story to say sodom and gomorrah was destroyed because of homosexuality. The Bible never specifically says that. It just says it was a whicked place. Lots daughters were strange ones. They took turns raping their dad, after they left, because they wanted to get pregnant.

I never wish for someone to be raped (I hate prison rape jokes and threats for instance) but I can't be too mad at the girls here after daddy dearest was begging to toss them to the crowd.  Completely squicked, yes, but not mad.

The people who talk about homosexuality in the context of this story are usually the ones who completely fail to grasp the concept of consent.  There is no difference to them between a homosexual gang rape and consensual homosexual sex.  They also have the lowest views of women - protect these innocent flowers at all costs!  Or throw them to the wolves, whatever.  It's not like your daughters are people or something, right?  They're just things, and if you tell them they're "easily deceived" and "weak" enough times maybe they'll believe it and won't your life be easier.  Marriage isn't a sacred bond between equals, it's between a man and the possession he most wants to fuck.  Or maybe, if you're lucky, it's a transaction between a man and his bang maid.  In any case, don't complain, ladies!  Don't think about it!  If you object to your objectification there is something wrong with *you*!  Just keep submitting and let the men decide and control everything, because that's been working out so beautifully for everyone

Ken, you're killing me here.  Child abuse apologist, unable to take a pot of soup out of the fridge without throwing it on the floor, and now antagonistic towards bees. 

[Joyce]

In her post, Swift Punishment for Wrong Behavior is a Good Thing, Lori praises SIngapore for its low crime rate and swift punishment. If Lori likes swift punishment, it's not Christianity that she should follow.

Edit: You can't get anyone more lenient than Jesus Christ who gave his life for us. Even Saint Paul changed from a punishing Pharisee condemning Saint Stephen to a missionary martyr. Apologies for the alliterations.

[Koala]

Is the bee post gone?  Not seeing it.  This from the couple who wants to give others relationship advice.  Please, they are literally arguing about whether to pull weeds or not.  

2 hours ago, Liza said:

I read one of her stories about her interaction with a complete stranger in a park.  His daughter was "acting up" and he said that he and his wife don''t smack/hit/beat because his wife learned in psychology it doesn't work and is bad. 

For those of you who are just joining us, you might be thinking that SURELY even Lori doesn't confront strangers in the park.  Surely, she wouldn't encourage a random man to spank.  Surely, she wouldn't sow that kind of strife in someone else's marriage.  You'd be wrong.

http://lorialexander.blogspot.com/2016/02/wimpy-cowardly-parenting.html

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I was at the park the other day with my grandchildren. There was a young dad there with his two year old daughter. We got to talking about discipline and I asked him if he spanked his daughter

Again, this is a COMPLETE stranger.  Why on earth, would any normal person ask such a question???

She continues:

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I asked him if he was spanked as a child and he said he was. I went over to him and told him, "You know you are the man of the family. You should be able to spank your daughter if you feel this is what she needs."

But, I thought Lori didn't teach men?!?  I guess she makes exceptions on subjects she feels passionately about....like making sure random strangers are hitting their kids.

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 I could tell he was very agitated by my words because he knew I was right and his wife's friend was wrong.

OR, he thought she was batshit crazy.

*IF you really want to see Lori break out the horrifically crazy, check out the comments between her and Tiffany.  I won't even post them here, because they literally turn my stomach.  She is a SICK, disgusting excuse for a woman.

[EowynW]

I was spanked on the bare butt with a belt, switch, and large ping pong paddle. Never left a mark but still hurt like hell. I can't imagine spanking a 2 year old on the bare bottom. 

[Koala]

Lori has just essentially told a reader that if you don't homeschool, you are denying God!  What the everlasting hell?!?!  That is not biblical AT ALL.

Reader:

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I hear from parents is that they feel that "they would not do a good job teaching their children... they're not knowledgable enough, not patient enough to teach educational material on a schedule. " 

Lori:

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God have you these children and He will provide you with what you need to disciple them at home. We either have faith in God or we deny Him 

How far do you take that, Lori?  If God gave you these children, did he equip you to provide medical care yourself?  Did you treat broken bones at home?!?!  What about your brain tumor?  Did you let your mom take care of it?  After all, God "gave" you to her, so surely she's the best person for the job.

My god, these people are like the drowning man praying for help, and then ignoring the life raft.  USE THE RAFT!!!

If you aren't equipped to educate your children, SEND THEM TO SCHOOL!

I have a house, but that doesn't make me equipped to handle all of it's plumbing and electrical needs.  Sometimes you have to realize you can't do everything.

Lordy.  AND, Lori is a pharisee.  She is making up rules for her followers.  Don't do what she says, and you DENY God, or HATE him and his "ways".  Makes me sick, and I'm not even a Christian.

Her post today is a piece of work. 

[delphinium65]

49 minutes ago, Koala said:

Her post today is a piece of work. 

It is.  Among other things she says 'They enjoy their godless lifestyle more than living in obedience to the Lord.'  No, Lori, my child, some of us enjoy being able to keep our children living in a house instead of on the street, and providing food for those children rather than letting them starve, because your Lord ain't doing shit about it.  

[AlwaysDiscerning]

@Koala I haven't read the post yet as I am eating breakfast and I got nauseated just reading the headline. By her reasoning, then all infertile people must not have what they need to have children and be good parents why else would God deny them children. That is how her thinking goes. 

[IntrinsicallyDisordered]

20 minutes ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

@Koala I haven't read the post yet as I am eating breakfast and I got nauseated just reading the headline. By her reasoning, then all infertile people must not have what they need to have children and be good parents why else would God deny them children. That is how her thinking goes. 

My husband and I are infertile (issues on both sides) and this is my thinking when I am at my lowest.  All I ever wanted was to be a mother and I never will be and it must be evidence of my sin and my horribleness.  I don't apply this thinking to my husband, and I know it's illogical and irrational but I will read about someone that abuses or murders their child/ren and cry because why did God give them a child but not me?  It is incredibly painful even now when I have worked through so many issues and no longer even really believe in God, but that indoctrination is strong.  Those hurtful words and others said to me by priests and those that claim to speak for God and the church turn out to be etched into me, no matter how many times I think I've washed them away.

If I still fully believed?  If I weren't married to my best friend, who supports me and comforts me and strengthens me?  If I were lost and still trapped in a church that was destroying me and came across Lori?  It breaks my heart to think of the women that are seeing and absorbing her poison, with no one to tell them different.

[Imrlgoddess]

Ya know...I'm curious to know what her thoughts would be on the good children of non-Christians. The ones who make it through evil public school, have never been to church, yet still somehow manage to have a good, moral life.  They somehow manage to take care of themselves and their homes and potentially children of their own.  Are they freaks of nature?  Are they destined to fall into some type of ruin?  

[AlwaysDiscerning]

I read her post now and this is just one big washing of her hands from any responsibility and giving her fangirls something to read if they ever feel guilty about judging. Helps them to rationalize away their responsibility in how you treat people. It wasn't me! Don't look at me, its just the spirit of truth!!

@IntrinsicallyDisordered

I am so sorry. Your comment speaks incredibly well as to how Lori can be so dangerous. Their words do haunt you and I too have to constantly be on guard with my own issues. Like sometimes I feel like a failure because I don't have enough "godly approved amount" of  kids or because I use birth control. I can here their little snide remarks. Their cackling. 

22 minutes ago, Imrlgoddess said:

Ya know...I'm curious to know what her thoughts would be on the good children of non-Christians. The ones who make it through evil public school, have never been to church, yet still somehow manage to have a good, moral life.  They somehow manage to take care of themselves and their homes and potentially children of their own.  Are they freaks of nature?  Are they destined to fall into some type of ruin?  

There is also probably a favorite pastor or two of hers that went to public school? That would be a good research project if anyone is up for it. 

Speaking of, we should also rewrite the "old paths" thing and replace it with a line of how life really was back in the days of old complete with a citation for every line. Like I was thinking of that mass grave of 800 children in Ireland from the Tuam home where unwed pregnant moms were sent. Its obvious these kids didn't get the right care or were murdered because they were "bastards" kids.  So, yes the good old days when kids were killed because their parents weren't married. 

 

[molecule]

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This is why so many women actually hate what I write. They don’t like someone who teaches the truth of God’s Word because of its conviction and judgment in their own hearts. They much prefer their ears to be tickled and feel comfortable with how they are living their lives. They love feminism and what it has accomplished. They don’t like hearing that their entire lives are based upon lies and deceptions from the prince of the power of the air.

Ugh, ugh, ugh. I am so fed up with Lori's black-and-white thinking. She will never understand that what women don't like is someone who twists the truth of God's Word. Even quite a few very conservative Christians I know will acknowledge that feminism has accomplished some good things that have allowed women to stay out of poverty, to have choices to leave an abuser, and to be able to access the resources that allow them to pursue what God has called them to be and do. They often dislike the word "feminism," but they will acknowledge the importance of rights for women. Lori, however, doesn't. I wish her "command man" would ride in on the horse of real truth and pull the plug on Lori's "Christian" "ministry."

[Liza]

Beside the fact that I find it very sad that any woman would have to ask these question ... and to Lori, off all people ... it seems that Lori can only think of two things that might be the problem.  There are a whole host of things this woman (who is clearly ashamed to speak up) might have been referring to, but in Lori's world, its anal or porno or you need lube.    

Why don't these women simply pick up a book and read it.  It is such a shame-based way of dealing with things.   Some, clearly live this way all their lives and never move past it. 

[delphinium65]

34 minutes ago, molecule said:

Ugh, ugh, ugh. I am so fed up with Lori's black-and-white thinking. She will never understand that what women don't like is someone who twists the truth of God's Word. 

And she has the gall to claim that she doesn't judge.  Lori most assuredly DOES judge women.  If you accept that her message is 'from God' (which I don't believe for a second, but rhetorically speaking...) she is still judging motives.  Disagree with Lori?  You hate God and his 'perfect ways,' you 'love feminism,' you 'prefer {your} ears to be tickled.'  She assumes the worst possible motives, but claims at the same time that women are deceived.  So which is it, willful rebellion, or silly deception?  

[molecule]

2 minutes ago, delphinium65 said:

So which is it, willful rebellion, or silly deception?  

Either way, it's the woman's fault as far as Lori is concerned.

[onemama]

2 hours ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

Your comment speaks incredibly well as to how Lori can be so dangerous. Their words do haunt you and I too have to constantly be on guard with my own issues. Like sometimes I feel like a failure because I don't have enough "godly approved amount" of  kids or because I use birth control. I can here their little snide remarks. Their cackling. 

Oh yes!  This. 

I took a 2-month break from Lori and from here and only went back to her blog after one of her readers, whom I've been corresponding with off and on, wrote and told me about a post she made featuring a comment by Trey.  I went to check it out and, surprise! I was having crazy thoughts on Monday!  I'm sure she'd call it "conviction"....

I don't think Lori has ever read the Bible from cover to cover. If she did, she'd be surprised, shocked, nauseated, horrified, by the some of the stuff that you find in there.  Lori says nobody should be offended by God's law, well,  perhaps she should spend some time in Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy and Joshua.  I'll admit to have spent some difficult hours reading them. 

She allowed this comment by Dave (on her blog post "are women more gullible?").  Yes, Lori thinks that all women are more gullible because the serpent tempted the woman and she was deceived.  Dave believes she was deceived and she knew exactly what she was doing.  I give you Dave:

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This discussion tickles at the heart of the foundation of marriage, and why there is ongoing consternation, for the church does not expound accurately on the words of God in Genesis 1-3 and related scriptures elsewhere. The church continually glorifies the woman at the expense of the man.

But if one looks at the scripture as it says they will see that Adam did not knowingly eat of the fruit: ‘he was not deceived’ per Paul in 1 Tim 2. Eve knowingly ate of the fruit: ‘she was deceived and transgressed.’ Deceived = transgression. No deception = no transgression. Eve was not deceived in the sense that she did not know what she was doing, that she was tricked. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing for she told the serpent about the fruit he proposed she eat – about God’s command not to eat; and further, she imagined what the fruit was going to do for her. The serpent only tempted her. Eve consciously chose to disobey God. This is the life and death choice God has placed before all [Deut 30:19]. Adam did not make that choice for he ‘was not deceived’ = he did not transgress by knowingly eating of the fruit; he did not lie to himself about what the truth was, meaning he did not know what Eve gave him to eat. God even chastised Eve with “What is this that thou hast done?” The Lord knew who sinned.

Adam only took the blame because this happened under his watch, within his responsibility, in his house. All men take the blame of the sin of their women, and women in general. Like Christ took the blame for his bride, the church. That doesn’t mean men are the problem.

The ‘Are women more gullible than men? Or “Are women more easily deceived?” really means ‘Will women lie to themselves more easily them men lie to themselves?” Yes, women will. Certainly, as we have become a more effeminate church and world this line is blurred.

 

This is the fruit of Dave's Bible study.  I've taken it upon me to read the whole Bible this year. So far, I've run into lots of shocking facts that I wasn't fully aware of, but men bearing the responsibility for women's sin? What? 

- if a man raped a woman in the open field, he alone was to be stoned. If he raped her in the city, both were stoned because she should have shouted and it could have been prevented.

- if a man suspected that his wife might have been unfaithful, she had to undergo a very humiliating and disgusting process that included having her head shaven and drinking bitter water. If she had been unfaithful, she alone paid for her sin.

- when a man sinned, his whole family was swallowed up by the earth (one instance, not the rule).

- when Miriam murmured against Moses, she alone got to live with leprosy for a while.

- women were treated like a subspecies. They were bought and sold, passed from man to man, sent out to be raped by the mob, given to men who didn't love them or want them, given as prizes.... Women were bound to their husbands by law until the husband died. He could divorce her, but she couldn't divorce him, only leave him.  Men could marry more than one woman or remarry after divorce, providing the new wife was not some other man's "discarded possession".   

Still, Dave thinks women haven't paid a penalty high enough. Still he thinks that men are the innocent party.  Maybe they were in the garden. I won't argue against him, although I  think Scripture says otherwise, but they sure made up for it once they got kicked out! 

 

[Loveday]

Adam took the blame?   Oh, no, you don't, Dave. That is NOT how it happened.

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8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. 

9 And theLORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? 

10 And he said, I heard thy voice in thegarden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. 

11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? 

12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. 

13And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

 

Doesn't sound to ME as if Adam took the blame, sounds to me as if Adam was passing that blame right along to Eve. Says so right there in the KJV. 

Nice try, though. 

[Koala]

Lori fancies herself a prophetess (or speaker of TRUTH!).  She uses that supposed "gift" to further solidify her belief that anything she says must be so.  To disagree with her, is to disagree with God. 

This has evolved over the years to the point that she honestly seems to think it more likely that you HATE God, than that you simply disagree with her interpretation of scripture.  Naturally, no one could dislike Lori! 

I don't believe in heaven or hell, but I do believe that if the heaven of the Bible were a real, and they'd let Lori Alexander within a country mile of the place, this is what she might hear:

Matthew 7:22-23

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

[fluffy]

5 hours ago, Koala said:

Lori has just essentially told a reader that if you don't homeschool, you are denying God!  What the everlasting hell?!?!  That is not biblical AT ALL.

She thinks it's a sin not to homeschool and writes this freely in her secret coven of misfits.

She wrote that she was previously so bossy and unhappy because she erroneously thought life had to go "according to the Book of Lori" but now everything is different. Not so fast there, Short-Shorts Alexander. 

[Loveday]

1 minute ago, fluffy said:

She thinks it's a sin not to homeschool and writes this freely in her secret coven of misfits.

She wrote that she was previously so bossy and unhappy because she erroneously thought life had to go "according to the Book of Lori" but now everything was different. Not so fast there, Short-Shorts Alexander. 

This just made me laugh so loud I scared my cat. She's now cowering under the bed. 

[refugee]

11 hours ago, fluffy said:

The man is an asswipe. 

I disagree. An asswipe has some redeeming value.

[delphinium65]

8 minutes ago, refugee said:

I disagree. An asswipe has some redeeming value.

True.  An asswipe cleans up the crap.  He just spreads the crap around, and makes it impossible for anyone else to clean it up.  

[fluffy]

14 minutes ago, refugee said:

I disagree. An asswipe has some redeeming value.

I stand corrected.