Alyssa Carone

[Gobsmacked]

She should be in prison for beating her daughter like that. The damage could have been life changing. What sort of Human mother does that to her offspring. She is truly evil. An excellent playmate for pp.

[Buzzard]

I just cant resist!  From her "free ginger" post:

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Defamation Definition:

“Defamation is the act of damaging the reputation of a third party by making a false or unjust statement. The false statement is a factual assertion that has no reasonable basis.”

Therefore your opinions become slander and libel when you post them on a public forum online. If it were a private forum thats a different story.

So, has she "slandered" us?

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The Atheist on this forum are nothing but no name fat little trolls with blue hair and no life…they are cowards…

Just sayin, I am not an athiest, am not fat, a troll, nor do I have blue hair.  I am also quite far from a coward.  I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that she has made a factual assertion with no reasonable basis.

[Palimpsest]

12 minutes ago, Koala said:

Is something going on with her blog?  She has a new post up about defamation, but it only shows for a second, and then the screen goes black.

I can see it.  It's an illiterate rant about a radio host called Robert Baty.  He too is slandering her name because she once did art work for Hovind.  Oh, look, @Curious taught her the word "libel!"

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This is another freak show of a person named Robert Baty who has been warned about his slander and libel. A very ugly and lifeless Atheist who has made it a life goal to slander my name because at one point I did artwork for Kent Hovind whom Robert Baty stalks day and night with his sick obsessive compulsive disorderly man love.

She seems to hate everyone.  Even Hovind doesn't escape completely.

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 I dont love the way Hovind treats people who work for him and he has made some stupid flaky decisions in life I am glad his videos have brought people like myself to Christ and some of his advice has helped me greatly in life…so there are no hard feelings.

Gee willikers.  I'm sure Kent Hovind is happy about that.

[Koala]

13 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

So, has she "slandered" us?

Nope, because she did it for Jesus!  And besides, she has Constitutional Rights!

 

18 minutes ago, Gobsmacked said:

She should be in prison for beating her daughter like that. 

I agree.  

I am also going to say that I wonder if she is or has struggled with substance abuse...

She is very erratic, and seems all over the map...

[Curious]

33 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

So, has she "slandered" us?

In one of her emails she said something like:  What I post about me in public is ok because I posted it.  What you post in public is not.  She also suggested that I privatize the forum, so I guess it's ok to "slander" her as long as she can't see it...or something.

29 minutes ago, Palimpsest said:

It's an illiterate rant about a radio host called Robert Baty.

I posted a link upthread about her....feelings about Robert Baty.  He actually transcribes some of her videos which is better than having to listen to her.  She spent most of the time calling him a stalker because he tracks Hovind's (apparently) public moves.

I suspect that Alyssa googled herself and discovered that the majority of the first page is people "slandering" her, so she decided to spend some time being an internet "warrior" vs "soul winning" heavily pregnant in stifling heat.

[Palimpsest]

34 minutes ago, Gobsmacked said:

She should be in prison for beating her daughter like that.

I agree.  That is child abuse.  But apparently her behavior was not illegal in her state.  

Uh oh.  Things are heating up on the Baty front.  https://www.facebook.com/ExposingAlyssaCarone/  I think they are both nuts.  Well, perhaps this will distract her from FJ.

16 minutes ago, Koala said:

I am also going to say that I wonder if she is or has struggled with substance abuse...

Hyper-religiosity as a symptom of mental illness is a possibility too.

[Curious]

I will say that her paintings are nice.  Not all of them are a style that I like, but they are well done.  I have not posted any of her "business" type pages because I don't want there to be even the appearance we are trying to hinder her employment, but they are easily found with a quick google search.

I particularly liked her flower paintings.  They are quite beautiful and well done, IMO.

[hoipolloi]

1 hour ago, Palimpsest said:

Uh oh.  Things are heating up on the Baty front.  https://www.facebook.com/ExposingAlyssaCarone/  I think they are both nuts.  Well, perhaps this will distract her from FJ.

This comment intrigued me from the FB page: "Do you read the King James Bible or a Satanic modern version?" 

What is the Satanic Modern Version -- the S & M Bible?

[Grimalkin]

   I think there is something very wrong with her. I scrolled through the blog and she used to look really normal. I don't know if she always beat her kids or if it started happening after her second marriage. Her husband looks evil. 

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    I find it disturbing.

This is chilling and reminds me of something I would see on the ID channel.

[formergothardite]

Her husband is scary looking. He just sends off very bad vibes. 

Was that their wedding? And what was she wearing? 

[Koala]

Yeah, there is a drastic change there.  I am not snarking on her looks at all, but she had a complete transformation, and again I find myself wondering if substance abuse was involved.

I am getting *really* bad vibes from him as well.  

 

[Palimpsest]

6 minutes ago, Grimalkin said:

I don't know if she always beat her kids or if it started happening after her second marriage.

The GAL report clarifies this.  She seems to have been getting increasingly extreme about religion over the last few years (since her conversion by the PP).  

Her growing religious fervor concerned husband 1 and his side of the family.  Husband 1 argued with her about it.  She accused him of DV (GAL found that not credible) and took off with the kids.  He fought to get custody and won.

Husband 2 is not a good influence at all.  By my reading of the GAL report, the beatings seem to have started when she was separated from husband 1 but not yet married to Husband 2.  

[Grimalkin]

Jesus, they got engaged three months after meeting. 

    I skimmed the report and must of missed the beating part.

[Palimpsest]

6 minutes ago, Grimalkin said:

Jesus, they got engaged three months after meeting. 

    I skimmed the report and must of missed the beating part.

And before the divorce went through!

Husband 1 said he thought she was mentally ill.  She denied it.  No mention of a mental health eval (that did surprise me).  

If there were suspicions of substance abuse I think it would have been in the report.  It is an obvious question for a GAL to ask.

The 3 older kids all wanted to go back to Dad.  Loud and clear. They like him.  They like his girlfriend.  They do not like Husband 2.

[Koala]

17 minutes ago, Palimpsest said:

The GAL report clarifies this.  She seems to have been getting increasingly extreme about religion over the last few years (since her conversion by the PP).  

Where are you finding this?  Did I miss a link? (so sorry if I did!)

This whole thing is really awful.  

[Palimpsest]

1 minute ago, Koala said:

Where are you finding this?  Did I miss a link? (so sorry if I did!)

This whole thing is really awful.  

Way back on page 2.  The links are in @mirele's post.  Thanks Mirele!

 

[Grimalkin]

17 minutes ago, Palimpsest said:

And before the divorce went through!

Husband 1 said he thought she was mentally ill.  She denied it.  No mention of a mental health eval (that did surprise me).  

If there were suspicions of substance abuse I think it would have been in the report.  It is an obvious question for a GAL to ask.

The 3 older kids all wanted to go back to Dad.  Loud and clear. They like him.  They like his girlfriend.  They do not like Husband 2.

      Yikes, I should of read that more closely. I have seen something like this before regarding drastic garish makeup changes and someone going through mental health issues, and 'hiding' what's really going on. I might be reading too much into this. I think her current husband is fucking with her. Maybe an aspiring cult leader.

[hoipolloi]

1 hour ago, Palimpsest said:

The GAL report clarifies this.  She seems to have been getting increasingly extreme about religion over the last few years (since her conversion by the PP).  

That report is awful reading. She's a monster though it's quite possible that she may also be mentally ill. 

It's very telling that the older children vehemently opposed having anything to do with husband 2 -- they called him "creepy."

Thanks, @mirele, for providing that context to the self-generated crazy.

ETA: For someone who looks & acts so bizarrely, I'm amazed that she hasn't been arrested or assaulted or worse while carrying out her public harassment campaigns. IIRC, MI is an open carry state -- I sure wouldn't be going up to strangers and their families or properties the way she does.

 

[16strong]

The husband reminds me of Heath Campbell.

[Palimpsest]

31 minutes ago, hoipolloi said:

I sure wouldn't be going up to strangers and their families or properties the way she does.

Or making my children do it.  She can risk her own life for Jebus but keep the kids out of it!

Dad's concerns are completely valid.  As are his apparent concerns with her methods of "discipline," which caused an apparently soft-spoken man to yell.

Those photos of Alyssa above are sad.  And interesting.  She always rather slathered on the make-up but it too is now extreme.  Then there is the over-bleached hair.  It doesn't suit her.

I suspect Husband 2 is an admirer of the looks of the late (unlamented) Jan Crouch and the late Tammy Faye (I still have a soft spot for Tammy Faye because she ended up embracing gays- apparently genuinely).

38 minutes ago, hoipolloi said:

It's very telling that the older children vehemently opposed having anything to do with husband 2 -- they called him "creepy."

 Posters here have also immediately called him "creepy."  Kids are smart.  They said they didn't want to be alone with him.  Husband 2 is very bad news. IMO.

[formerpastorswife]

Gonna mini-rant here:

NOT signs she's horrible:

1) Accusing her ex of DV and taking the kids. (As a DV survivor, you can go through a lot, but if you don't have hard and fast evidence-- such as bruises, police reports, etc-- it's very hard to prove. I wasn't willing to stick around long enough to let the bruises pile up.)

2) Her ex saying she may be mentally unstable. (My ex-- a malovent narcissist-- did the same, accusing me of mental instability in his divorce filing. My therapist/psychologist disproved it, and actually diagnosed me instead with PTSD thanks to his mental and psychological abuse, but because she never actually testified about it in court, it never went on official court record)

3) Moving on to a new man relatively quickly. (Again, different people heal/move on at different rates. This doesn't mean they're good or bad).

What ARE signs that she's awful:

1) Her psychotic, paranoia-fueled social media rants.

2) Abusing her children. I don't care how "holy and separated" you are-- you're nuts if you think beating a kid on the bottoms of his feet is acceptable in any way, shape, or form.

2) Her Douchebag McCreepster of a husband. Seriously serial killer/cult leader material there.

3) His drastically negative effect on her. She went from a normal looking, normally-smiling woman to looking like a pathetic former pornstar.

4) Her kids' reaction to him, and refusal to be with him. That's very very telling in and of itself. Kids are generally accepting and loving, so if there is that visceral of a repulsion in them, there's a reason.

When it comes to hearsay and accusations, it really doesn't matter whether her first husband was a hero or a villain. It's very clear that she's out of the frying pan and into the fire, as she's definitely NOT happier or better off with the current douche.

[Palimpsest]

20 minutes ago, formerpastorswife said:

Gonna mini-rant here:

Go ahead!

21 minutes ago, formerpastorswife said:

NOT signs she's horrible:

1) Accusing her ex of DV and taking the kids. (As a DV survivor, you can go through a lot, but if you don't have hard and fast evidence-- such as bruises, police reports, etc-- it's very hard to prove. I wasn't willing to stick around long enough to let the bruises pile up.)

I completely agree.  But Alyssa didn't complain of bruising.  Just "controlling" (or disagreeing) and "yelling."

23 minutes ago, formerpastorswife said:

2) Her ex saying she may be mentally unstable. (My ex-- a malovent narcissist-- did the same, accusing me of mental instability in his divorce filing. My therapist/psychologist disproved it, and actually diagnosed me instead with PTSD thanks to his mental and psychological abuse, but because she never actually testified about it in court, it never went on official court record)

I completely agree again.  Stuff gets nasty.  Accusations on both sides fly out the window. He accused her of mental illness. She accused him of depression, ADD, and use of medical marijuana. 

27 minutes ago, formerpastorswife said:

3) Moving on to a new man relatively quickly. (Again, different people heal/move on at different rates. This doesn't mean they're good or bad).

Very true.  Her ex seems to have found a new girlfriend fairly quickly too.  It doesn't mean he is bad either.

29 minutes ago, formerpastorswife said:

What ARE signs that she's awful:

Everything you said.  I think her videos alone are proof positive that she should not have primary custody of those children.

30 minutes ago, formerpastorswife said:

When it comes to hearsay and accusations, it really doesn't matter whether her first husband was a hero or a villain. It's very clear that she's out of the frying pan and into the fire, as she's definitely NOT happier or better off with the current douche.

I'm not seeing a frying pan necessarily for husband 1.  Nor am I seeing a hero. He does seem to be able to provide a stable home and be loving towards his children.  

I am seeing a fire in husband 2.

She may be just be misguided or perhaps mentally ill.  Husband 2 is bad news.  The hate videos she herself posted tell me that she is not a good parent - and is possibly unfit.  Your mileage may vary.

[Soulhuntress]

Meth was my first thought.  

[SusanDelgado]

I see meth when I look at her too. Interesting to see someone else say it as well.  

Also having come from a fundie background, the picture of them with his hands all around her boobs would have been a BIG no no even as a married couple.  I don't get how she has the views she has and then thinks that's appropriate. 

[JesusCampSongs]

19 hours ago, Grimalkin said:

Alyssa, may I make a few suggestions? I am not an expert and now as a forty something I don't wear much makeup. I think you are like me and have a cool skin tone and light eyes. I never had luck with brown eye shadows, they seem to be more suited for warm tones. It sucks because it is so popular now. I suggest plum, lilac, pinks, and greys. They would make your eyes pop. You have pretty eyes and you know what would look awesome with that liner? Charcoal, silvery shadow. I rally like a charcoal colored liner for a casual day look. If you go heavy on the eyes then tone the lip color down. I am not sure how I feel about your lip color yet but using a lip liner would be good because it would give your lips definition. Maybe if you just did mascara with those bright lips?I bet lip colors with the word berry in he name would look great on you too. Your blush here looks good, stay away from the warm orangey tones because they clash with your skin tone. 

      Hmm. I do like you with blonde hair, but it's a pain to keep it up. I hear going to a beauty school is an inexpensive way to get your hair done. The problem with dyeing your hair blonde at home is that it can end up brassy looking, and again that clashes with our cool skin tone.

      This is not meant as snark.

 

 

I agree with all of this! She looks a lot prettier in her older photos with darker hair and more understated makeup. I have the same skin tone that she does, and intense looks make me look like a clown, even moreso if they don't go with my coloring. Her lipstick is way too orange (she needs a bluer red), and the brown makeup needs to go. I agree that greys, silvers, and purples would be a huge improvement. As would going back to brown hair. I'm not against blonde hair, per se, but doing it right and maintaining it is a major time and money commitment, especially if you have a cool skin tone. 

Also, y'all, can we not bag on sex workers? First off, disparagingly comparing people to dried-up porn stars is pretty slut-shamey and sexist. Not to mention the fact that they, by and large, know how to do makeup correctly and would probably resent the fuck out of the comparison.