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[Gobbles]

I'm all across the pond, but honestly: Does it even matter if she is sick or not? With that system you have it is either she or Trump. And I would vote for almost anybody over Trump. You basically have no other option. I talked with my Mum about that topic and told her that there are people who think she has body double or is totally sick. She couldn't believe it. She said, that hiding stuff (like being sick) and telling it only latter is not good at all, but well, Trump.

The problem is that the whole political system seems to evolve around a person rather than a party. If you vote for a party, there are plenty of capable people who could do that job if no. 1 fails because of health reasons. 

Why not vote for Democrats vs. Republicans (+ other parties) and the one who wins figures out after that who is going to be president. 

But I must admit I really liked that video. I don't believe in conspiracy theories, but they do make a good entertainment. (I think it is like the moon landing. Faking it is impossible because too many people would have known about it and one of them would talk. Same with Clinton. If she is that sick, a lot of people would know and the chances that one of them talks are pretty high.) 

 

[Snarkylark]

6 hours ago, Mecca said:

So if all this doesn't mean Hillary is incapable of being President, then why the concern? 

Ugh! When I erase my text from the quote box I can't get out of it to respond:/

anyway, it really just was a concern. No ulterior motives. Just a conversation. 

[VelociRapture]

5 hours ago, Gobbles said:

I'm all across the pond, but honestly: Does it even matter if she is sick or not? With that system you have it is either she or Trump. And I would vote for almost anybody over Trump. You basically have no other option. I talked with my Mum about that topic and told her that there are people who think she has body double or is totally sick. She couldn't believe it. She said, that hiding stuff (like being sick) and telling it only latter is not good at all, but well, Trump.

The problem is that the whole political system seems to evolve around a person rather than a party. If you vote for a party, there are plenty of capable people who could do that job if no. 1 fails because of health reasons. 

Why not vote for Democrats vs. Republicans (+ other parties) and the one who wins figures out after that who is going to be president. 

But I must admit I really liked that video. I don't believe in conspiracy theories, but they do make a good entertainment. (I think it is like the moon landing. Faking it is impossible because too many people would have known about it and one of them would talk. Same with Clinton. If she is that sick, a lot of people would know and the chances that one of them talks are pretty high.) 

 

It's an interesting concept. My biggest concern with allowing the winning party to choose the President would mainly be focused on the Republicans. I don't trust them to do anything that's in the best interest of anyone that isn't a white, Protestant, land owning, male. I feel like the Republicans (and some Democrats) are far too extreme in some ways for this to be a really plausible idea at the moment.

[Mecca]

3 hours ago, Snarkylark said:

Ugh! When I erase my text from the quote box I can't get out of it to respond:/

anyway, it really just was a concern. No ulterior motives. Just a conversation. 

That actually still does not answer my question. Your concern makes no since, frankly. What are you concerned about if you claim this should not effect her presidency? 

[bea]

Speaking as someone who has had pneumonia, and landed in the hospital for a full week on intravenous antibiotics, it is entirely possible to faint from pneumonia. I did so, multiple times. When the lungs are inflamed and full of junk, you're not getting as much oxygen. It is a lot of work to breathe, when you have pneumonia. And if you're standing for an hour in 80 degree weather, in FL sunlight, wearing a bulletproof vest and long sleeves, and you've been sick for a while, and you have pneumonia, I'd be shocked if you DIDN'T pass out. Even as a younger person, in my mid-forties, I don't think I could have kept going on the schedule that Clinton did, and been ill at the same time.
It's not just a conversation. It's a conspiracy theory, it's a tinfoil hat invention for people who are desperate to disqualify her from the presidential run. I've seen her diagnosed with Parkinson's, brain cancer, a tumor, epilepsy everything under the sun. It's the questions people as when they know that the candidate they prefer cannot possibly win on his own bonafides, so throwing everything but the kitchen sink - including attempting to start rumors of a brain tumor, or even claims that she's dead and the person running is a body double - at the other candidate is the only way they can campaign.

She's got pneumonia. That's a shame. She'll rest for a few days, take her antibiotics, NOT stand outside for an hour in a bulletproof vest, and be back on the campaign trail. Candidates for president get sick sometimes. They're human.

So far we've got Clinton's medical record, complete with her medications, her personal tax returns, and the Clinton Foundation's tax returns. In the other corner, we have a bizarre statement that all tests are "positive" and that an overweight white guy who eats a lot of fast food would be the healthiest president ever, signed by a doctor who isn't affiliated with the hospital on his letterhead. No tax returns.
But somehow, we're all supposed to believe that it's Clinton who is hiding things. Okay, sure.

[VelociRapture]

17 minutes ago, bea said:

Speaking as someone who has had pneumonia, and landed in the hospital for a full week on intravenous antibiotics, it is entirely possible to faint from pneumonia. I did so, multiple times. When the lungs are inflamed and full of junk, you're not getting as much oxygen. It is a lot of work to breathe, when you have pneumonia. And if you're standing for an hour in 80 degree weather, in FL sunlight, wearing a bulletproof vest and long sleeves, and you've been sick for a while, and you have pneumonia, I'd be shocked if you DIDN'T pass out. Even as a younger person, in my mid-forties, I don't think I could have kept going on the schedule that Clinton did, and been ill at the same time.
It's not just a conversation. It's a conspiracy theory, it's a tinfoil hat invention for people who are desperate to disqualify her from the presidential run. I've seen her diagnosed with Parkinson's, brain cancer, a tumor, epilepsy everything under the sun. It's the questions people as when they know that the candidate they prefer cannot possibly win on his own bonafides, so throwing everything but the kitchen sink - including attempting to start rumors of a brain tumor, or even claims that she's dead and the person running is a body double - at the other candidate is the only way they can campaign.

She's got pneumonia. That's a shame. She'll rest for a few days, take her antibiotics, NOT stand outside for an hour in a bulletproof vest, and be back on the campaign trail. Candidates for president get sick sometimes. They're human.

So far we've got Clinton's medical record, complete with her medications, her personal tax returns, and the Clinton Foundation's tax returns. In the other corner, we have a bizarre statement that all tests are "positive" and that an overweight white guy who eats a lot of fast food would be the healthiest president ever, signed by a doctor who isn't affiliated with the hospital on his letterhead. No tax returns.
But somehow, we're all supposed to believe that it's Clinton who is hiding things. Okay, sure.

 

 

 

... I think I love you... 

[Mecca]

And we now have Trump doing a sit down interview with Dr. Oz about his health. Dr. Oz - the guy that wears a Swarovski Crystal blinged out stethoscope and uses potions from Hogswort to treat his patients. No concern there, Snarkylark? 

[bea]

Now the appearance on Dr. Oz (quack central) is going to be about health and wellness IN GENERAL, not Donald's health. He changed his mind.
So. What's HE hiding?

[Mecca]

This health interview is about getting free advertising for Donald and a ratings boost for Dr. Oz. Nothing more. If Dr. Oz is not doing a physical exam on Donald and only getting half the information, what is the point of this other than what I stated at the beginning? We will find out nothing in the end like all other Donald interviews, yet Hillary is the liar and trying to cover up crap.

I watched an interview with an audience member from the show. Of course, this person is wearing a Donald Trump shirt and says he supports Trump. The guy sounds like he had been sitting in a hot car for several hours. Apparently Donald is healthier than him. Not a plant at all, y'all.

Edited September 14, 2016 by Mecca

[Destiny]

... I think I love you... 

I KNOW I do.

I couldn't possibly have said it better. This is why I love FJ ..... so many smart people who say what I am thinking better than I do.

[iweartanktops]

22 hours ago, Coconut Flan said:

Actually Destiny and I are two different people.

 

18 hours ago, Destiny said:

Uh, that person is ALSO not @Coconut Flan. Just FYI, not everyone on FJ is the same person. 

fucking hilarious! 

Thanks for the laughs, everyone! This is my first time hearing that a nurse doesn't know how helpful simple hydration can be for one's health. Very interesting! 

[Cartmann99]

I have some things I have to do this afternoon, so I'm leaving you guys my bingo cards.

I laughed so hard last night that I cried, and my stomach is sore today from all the laughter. 

 

[Mecca]

37 minutes ago, iweartanktops said:

 

fucking hilarious! 

Thanks for the laughs, everyone! This is my first time hearing that a nurse doesn't know how helpful simple hydration can be for one's health. Very interesting! 

I know, right?

A few symptoms of dehydration are:

Weakness

Dizziness

Dry mouth

Fainting

Confusion

Decreased urine output

Low Blood Pressure

Increased heart rate

I don't know about Hillary's pee pee or whether she was confused or what other symptoms she may have had, but she showed signs of weakness and dizziness. She could have gotten into a cool environment and hydrated herself with some water or some Gatorade.....you know....the two things people need to do to make themselves feel better if they are dehydrated. It is not unusual for a patient with pneumonia to become dehydrated. Dehydration can also lead to pneumonia in some patients.

But what do I know? It is not like I am some world-renowned, high paying anesthesiologist with a YouTube channel and an ax to grind. 

 

Edited September 14, 2016 by Mecca

[Destiny]

2 minutes ago, Mecca said:

But what do I know? It is not like I am some world-renowned, high paying anesthesiologist with a YouTube channel and an ax to grind. 

How would we know? I mean, you could be hiding your qualifications because Clinton Murder Machine. I SPY CONSPIRACY!

[Snarkylark]

1 hour ago, iweartanktops said:

 

<img alt=":clap:" data-emoticon="" src="http://www.freejinger.org/uploads/emoticons/default_eusa/clap.gif" title=":clap:" /> fucking hilarious! 

Thanks for the laughs, everyone! This is my first time hearing that a nurse doesn't know how helpful simple hydration can be for one's health. Very interesting! 

When did I say that?

[Mecca]

29 minutes ago, Destiny said:

How would we know? I mean, you could be hiding your qualifications because Clinton Murder Machine. I SPY CONSPIRACY!

Truth be told - I am backing Hillary because to not back her means someone will show up on my porch with a silencer. It is true. Alex Jones told me so. I have got too much going on right now and worrying about being offed by the Clinton campaign is not on my to-do list. 

[Snarkylark]

3 hours ago, Mecca said:

And we now have Trump doing a sit down interview with Dr. Oz about his health. Dr. Oz - the guy that wears a Swarovski Crystal blinged out stethoscope and uses potions from Hogswort to treat his patients. No concern there, Snarkylark? 

I don't know anything about Donald's health or the interview with Oz. I mentioned that I don't really follow politics much. But I have seen stuff about Clinton on my news feed. That's why I thought I'd come here and ask what you guys thought. Admittedly my feed is mostly anti Hillary and pro trump. Yuck. Anyway....I would be concerned if anyone wasn't well. That's why I do what I do. But it doesn't mean I believe conspiracy theories or think she's unfit to be POTUS. 

Edited September 14, 2016 by Snarkylark

[Mecca]

1 hour ago, Snarkylark said:

I don't know anything about Donald's health or the interview with Oz. I mentioned that I don't really follow politics much. But I have seen stuff about Clinton on my news feed. That's why I thought I'd come here and ask what you guys thought. Admittedly my feed is mostly anti Hillary and pro trump. Yuck. Anyway....I would be concerned if anyone wasn't well. That's why I do what I do. But it doesn't mean I believe conspiracy theories or think she's unfit to be POTUS. 

I said this earlier to you, @Snarkylark. Did you see it? 
 

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That actually still does not answer my question. Your concern makes no since, frankly. What are you concerned about if you claim this should not effect her presidency? 

 

You keep saying you do not follow politics, so that is why I find it rather odd that someone that claims you don't follow politics is in a politics thread. What is your end game here? Do you just not like Hillary? Do you think her health issues you feel she has disqualifies her to be the president? Why bring it up?  Just be honest. Stop beating around the bush and say what you really mean. 

 

 

[Mecca]

I am just going to put this here. Don't mind me...

[SilverBeach]

4 hours ago, Snarkylark said:

I don't know anything about Donald's health or the interview with Oz. I mentioned that I don't really follow politics much. But I have seen stuff about Clinton on my news feed. That's why I thought I'd come here and ask what you guys thought. Admittedly my feed is mostly anti Hillary and pro trump. Yuck. Anyway....I would be concerned if anyone wasn't well. That's why I do what I do. But it doesn't mean I believe conspiracy theories or think she's unfit to be POTUS. 

This is a disingenuous response, but two points for persistence in trying to backpedal on everything you initially posted. You can stop now. Really.

[hoipolloi]

55 minutes ago, SilverBeach said:

This is a disingenuous response, but two points for persistence in trying to backpedal on everything you initially posted. You can stop now. Really.

And -10,000 points, @Snarkylark, for endless concern trolling. 

[Snarkylark]

3 hours ago, Mecca said:

I said this earlier to you, @Snarkylark. Did you see it? 
 

You keep saying you do not follow politics, so that is why I find it rather odd that someone that claims you don't follow politics is in a politics thread. What is your end game here? Do you just not like Hillary? Do you think her health issues you feel she has disqualifies her to be the president? Why bring it up?  Just be honest. Stop beating around the bush and say what you really mean. 

 

 

I think I've already answered that question. I came here to see what you guys thought because, admittedly, I don't follow. But I saw the reports and thought I'd ask here. I don't think I've ever posted in any other political thread, again, because I really don't care this time around. 

[Mecca]

53 minutes ago, SilverBeach said:

This is a disingenuous response, but two points for persistence in trying to backpedal on everything you initially posted. You can stop now. Really.

Exactly!! 

This is what I don't get. I took the time to rehash her posts from the beginning and point out what she said out to her and she is still denying and acting like she never said what she said. Does she think we can't read? That we can't comprehend words? We are a rather smart group and for her to act like we are not is what I find so irritating. 

She needs to piss or get off the toilet already. 

[Cartmann99]

45 minutes ago, Snarkylark said:

I think I've already answered that question. I came here to see what you guys thought because, admittedly, I don't follow. But I saw the reports and thought I'd ask here. I don't think I've ever posted in any other political thread, again, because I really don't care this time around. 

I have very little interest in sports, so I'm going go find a discussion about football to participate in for three days.

[Mecca]

59 minutes ago, Snarkylark said:

I think I've already answered that question. I came here to see what you guys thought because, admittedly, I don't follow. But I saw the reports and thought I'd ask here. I don't think I've ever posted in any other political thread, again, because I really don't care this time around. 

You have been in other threads that could be deemed as political. Police brutality is a subject that has been discussed during the presidental campaign. You and I had another clash in the Dallas police thread because you basically victim blamed. 

14 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

I have very little interest in sports, so I'm going go find a discussion about football to participate in for three days.

And this, my friends, is why I love me some @Cartmann99