Ben, Jessa, Spurgeon Six

[SassyPants]

1 hour ago, 2manyKidzzz said:

To me, Bin is just way too young to be giving out this kind of advice. It is so annoying. I would say that one should fear Gothard, not God. 

The most dangerous and annoying person is the one that knows NOT but thinks he KNOWS.

[HereticHick]

1 hour ago, 2manyKidzzz said:

Great find Heretic. Was this on their Instagram, or Facebook? Brimstone Ben is a great name. He has lived so much life to be giving out this wise advise. Ha. 

On his Twitter Feed:  

I think the last two sentences must be screamed while shaking one's fist at passersby, the sky, or both.

Although frankly Derick seems to be the one who looks more the part of the lunatic street corner preacher.

[Buzzard]

46 minutes ago, HereticHick said:

On his Twitter Feed:  

I think the last two sentences must be screamed while shaking one's fist at passersby, the sky, or both.

Although frankly Derick seems to be the one who looks more the part of the lunatic street corner preacher.

God bothering... 

Which "church" is he referring to? Surely the church that he attends is walking the straight and narrow way to happyland!

[EmCatlyn]

1 hour ago, HereticHick said:

On his Twitter Feed:  

 . . . 

There are so many problems with a rant like that.

First of all, as already pointed out, if God is good and forgives all sinners, why should we fear Him?

Secondly, if God is all powerful, then Isis. Illegal imigration and the economy are all part of God's plan.  And if God is trying to scare us into the right behavior, surely we should fear these things, to satisfy God's wishes.

Lastly, it is the sort of thing preachers have been saying for centuries.  Poor Ben couldn't find something original to say if his life depended on him.  He has five or six religious cliches stuck in hishead and he keeps recycling them.

[Ungodly Grandma]

2 hours ago, HereticHick said:

I came to this thread looking for discussion of Brimstone Ben's recent word salad:

"America, you should fear God more than you fear Isis, illegal immigration, or an ill economy. Repent church. Repent America."

This is the type of proclamation I expect to see scrawled on a piece of cardboard, being held by someone standing in from the US Supreme Court building who appears to have multiple imaginary friends.

But y'all seem to be busy discussing adoption and whatnot.

 

Thank you. I agree that this sounds like crazy talk. It is very strange to me that this is considered normal by even a small percentage of Americans.  

[nst]

1 hour ago, HereticHick said:

On his Twitter Feed:  

I think the last two sentences must be screamed while shaking one's fist at passersby, the sky, or both.

Although frankly Derick seems to be the one who looks more the part of the lunatic street corner preacher.

I can see Ben with his fists in the air screaming at anyone who would listen The internet is just the street corner now a days. 

What would these people do before the internet  is beyond me.  

Derick to me like the guy who would lunge at you from behind and hand you a flyer while Ben would stand in front of you and shout at you - so your friends could call the police on him. 

they are both cray cray 

I really don't get why we have to fear God constantly with these people - maybe it's about control 

[patsymae]

Next step for Ben working with Kirk Cameron?

 

[nst]

Just now, patsymae said:

Next step for Ben working with Kirk Cameron?

 

if he were smart and he thinks he is I bet he would 

because so far, the coffins, the you tube videos, the rants, Flame, nothing has worked 

 

[SilverBeach]

3 hours ago, Shadoewolf said:

I saw that too, and here's the thing....all sins are forgiven (even Josh!) because Jesus loves you and died for you, etc etc. but God should be FEARED?? Epic contradiction there Brimstone Ben

All sins are forgiven except for homosexuality or any other form of sexuality other than hetero. Those are sins to them, not part of their identity.

[2manyKidzzz]

@HereticHick  Thanks for bringing the Twitter here by Benye. 

Wait.....wait......isn't there a pastry in New Orleans called a Benye, or wait it is spelled different like....beignet........

I think I am right. 

[MatthewDuggar]

4 hours ago, patsymae said:

Next step for Ben working with Kirk Cameron?

 

I'm shocked we haven't seen any sort of connection yet.  I know KC was on 17or18or19 KAC once or twice, but that was pre-scandals.  Perhaps he's decided to steer clear of the toxic Duggar world.

[CreationMuseumSeasonPass]

6 hours ago, 2manyKidzzz said:

@HereticHick  Thanks for bringing the Twitter here by Benye. 

Wait.....wait......isn't there a pastry in New Orleans called a Benye, or wait it is spelled different like....beignet........

I think I am right. 

Beignets from Café Du Monde in New Orleans are the BEST EVER! So is the café au lait.

[PennySycamore]

50 minutes ago, CreationMuseumSeasonPass said:

Beignets from Café Du Monde in New Orleans are the BEST EVER! So is the café au lait.

Oh, man!  Now I'm hungry!  Cafe Du Monde is reason enough to go to New Orleans.

When is the best time for a beignet and cafe au lait?  Why, anytime at all!

[marmalade]

8 hours ago, nst said:

if he were smart and he thinks he is I bet he would 

because so far, the coffins, the you tube videos, the rants, Flame, nothing has worked 

 

You forget that he's apparently now a self-styled "real estate broker." Whatever that means in Duggarville. I'm sure it's like Jana the Electrician/Concert Pianist, Jinger the Car Flipper, or Justin the Mechanic. 

[2manyKidzzz]

They have a free house and a nice minivan. So, life is rolling along in the material goods category, so I guess Preacher Benye feels that he can move on to saving the heathens of the world. 

[nst]

19 minutes ago, marmalade said:

You forget that he's apparently now a self-styled "real estate broker." Whatever that means in Duggarville. I'm sure it's like Jana the Electrician/Concert Pianist, Jinger the Car Flipper, or Justin the Mechanic. 

when did he become a real estate broker

because I am taking the damn course and its HARD as hell 

this just pissed me off

#bentheidiot

[Sweet Fellowship]

4 hours ago, nst said:

when did he become a real estate broker

because I am taking the damn course and its HARD as hell 

this just pissed me off

#bentheidiot

I don't know how it works in the US. Would he be able to take some silly Gothard-approved course on real estate? Does one even exist?

[Shadoewolf]

Yeah you have to take the mandated courses and an exam to get licensed as an agent. I think broker is yet another step up, but feel free to correct me on that.

[anotherone]

18 hours ago, nst said:

I can see Ben with his fists in the air screaming at anyone who would listen The internet is just the street corner now a days. 

What would these people do before the internet  is beyond me.  

Derick to me like the guy who would lunge at you from behind and hand you a flyer while Ben would stand in front of you and shout at you - so your friends could call the police on him. 

they are both cray cray 

I really don't get why we have to fear God constantly with these people - maybe it's about control 

Bingo.  How else could you manage to get kids to obey so diligently, or to get women to give up careers and any independence?  Do what we say or God will smite you!  You will be smited by God!  Or smote?  smitten?  Whatever.

[nastyhobbitses]

20 hours ago, patsymae said:

Next step for Ben working with Kirk Cameron?

 

I could totally see this. You don't exactly have to be Sir Laurence Olivier to act in Kirk's movies (because lord knows Kirk's acting prowess is somewhere in between porn star and Kelly Clarkson in her contractually obligated role in From Justin to Kelly), Ben's handsome and muscular and has something of a recognizable name and is presumably literate enough to memorize lines...I'd say he could make himself the fundie Chris Hemsworth, but Chris Hemsworth can actually act. He can be the Hayden Christensen of the fundie film industry.

[nst]

3 minutes ago, nastyhobbitses said:

I could totally see this. You don't exactly have to be Sir Laurence Olivier to act in Kirk's movies (because lord knows Kirk's acting prowess is somewhere in between porn star and Kelly Clarkson in her contractually obligated role in From Justin to Kelly), Ben's handsome and muscular and has something of a recognizable name and is presumably literate enough to memorize lines...I'd say he could make himself the fundie Chris Hemsworth, but Chris Hemsworth can actually act. He can be the Hayden Christensen of the fundie film industry.

but the real question would be if he could put away his chip on his shoulder and act

 

[snickerz]

Bin as an actor? LOL - He can barely manage playing the part of himself on a 2-bit reality show.

[SassyPants]

13 hours ago, 2manyKidzzz said:

They have a free house and a nice minivan. So, life is rolling along in the material goods category, so I guess Preacher Benye feels that he can move on to saving the heathens of the world. 

You know, that's why I have low tolerance for his apparent malcontent. Dude, everything has been handed to you. You have a couple of choices:

1) Put up and shut up- learn to keep sweet in your new cult OR

2) Man up, find a job, a place to live and a new car and move your family away from the cult.

Either way, learn to deal- YOU chose to stalk this girl. You play, you pay.

[ksgranola1]

".I really don't get why we have to fear God constantly with these people - maybe it's about control ."~nst

Remember the Bible was translated into many languages & "fear" may have been as close as they could get from the original Greek. The translation of "virgin" was originally "young girl," Not "she who still has a hyman."

[EmCatlyn]

9 minutes ago, ksgranola1 said:

".I really don't get why we have to fear God constantly with these people - maybe it's about control ."~nst

Remember the Bible was translated into many languages & "fear" may have been as close as they could get from the original Greek. The translation of "virgin" was originally "young girl," Not "she who still has a hyman."

I think most of the "fear God" stuff comes from the OT, which would be Hebrew, not Greek. It is all over Psalms and Proverbs.

 The "virgin/young woman" confusion actually happened from Hebrew to Greek.  The passage in Isaiah that allegedly prophesies the birth of Jesus uses the Hebrew word almah (spelling?) which was translated as parthenos, virgin. I think in the Septuagint.

My sense is that fear of God is more accurately represented by our modern concept of "awe" regardless of translation.  The power of God should impress.  But it is silly to assume God has nothing better to do than go around "smiting" sinners.