Josh Duggar Admits to Molestation Rumors - Part 4

[happy atheist]

I think we need a topic forum for PEOPLE magazine article release at 5:20PM !

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	No we don't. We can discuss it right here.

[Hera]

I am looking forward to Kirk Cameron's sage advice on this development.

I just snorted my wine.

[theinvisiblegirl]

I just snorted my wine.

THIS! I've been occasionally checking his Facebook to see if he's said anything. I wonder what his people are advising him to do.

[Hera]

THIS! I've been occasionally checking his Facebook to see if he's said anything. I wonder what his people are advising him to do.

One would hope to shut up and stay out of it, but these people and those who follow them are so crazy, who even knows.

[ApologistsBeDamned]

THIS! I've been occasionally checking his Facebook to see if he's said anything. I wonder what his people are advising him to do.

It will be beautiful whatever it is. We might get lucky and get a fruit reference too.

[latraviata]

I am looking forward to Kirk Cameron's sage advice on this development.

According to his friend Ray Comfort, the truth is in the banana...

[Mary C Doates]

People has several articles at this point--they are very busy backing away from their prior glorification of all things Duggar.

One article is about the old Alice story, and includes a reference, and link, to FJ. There may be a new flood of visitors here shortly--hope the helpmeets are well-rested :p.

[FaceTheShadow]

I don't know if anyone has brought this up already but DailyMail did a report of that time Josh Duggar made an incest joke in an October 2008 episode of 19 Kids and Counting.

The DailyMail article can be accessed here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3095157/Josh-Duggar-incest-joke-siblings-family-s-TLC-show.html

It must have been really painful for his sisters who were abused by him a couple of years prior to that to hear that joke and now that we think of it again, it's just so sick.

This is definitely one of the many reasons why the Duggar girls who are still in the Duggar household should be taken out of the said household already.

[silverspoons]

Can we add another sex offender to the Duggar's list?

I always wondered why the Duggars or their PR team never made a statement when Bill Blankinship was arrested and later convicted for child pornography. He was an editor (he got to see all the raw footage of the kids) of 17 kids & 18 kids. He also edited for Jon & Kate, Jon was very angry and worried for his kids and Kate tried to deny he meet the family but Jon confirmed they did meet with Bill in person.

So did the Duggars ever meet Bill in person? or did he just edit hours of footage of the kids in a little dark room in NC.

[ApologistsBeDamned]

According to his friend Ray Comfort, the truth is in the banana...

Or is it the rum I add to my banana?

[DaysAgo]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but People FINALLY has an article up connecting the Duggars with Gothard.

http://www.people.com/article/inside-jo ... treatment-

Now if they would just connect Duggar, Gothard, and Huckabee.

[latraviata]

Or is it the rum I add to my banana?

Well I would.

[HeadshipRegent]

Or is it the rum I add to my banana?

I'm just here for the Crocoducks.

[polecat]

Hi, also a long time lurker, first time poster. Thank you, thank you for this page. When i saw the duggars were trending I came straight here. I knew you all would get it right. and it has taken me until just now to catch up. Sorry this is so long. I have shortened it all i could.

I agree that reaching out to the girls would probably hurt them more. This is why. My husband's first wife came from Fundies, loosely associated with the church Timothy Mcveigh belonged to. Different church, same small town fundie community. My husband married her the day she turned 18, secretly away from the family. He was the devil from that day on.

For four years during which time my husband and his ex had a son, her family tried to pull her back home. My husband and ex even moved several hours away to get away from them. Then one day my husband came home from nursing school and the whole house was empty. An immediate and very long custody battle ensued once his ex made it clear that she would not come back.

For the next 8 years my stepson was systematically abused. He was told his father was satan's minion and he was the spawn of satan's minion. I could go on but suffice it to say he suffered scarring abuse everyday. The only reason he was not beat, i believe is the ongoing custody battle.) In time he, like his mom before him began to rebel. One day, out of the blue, when he was 12 they dropped him off at my husbands house and said he's yours, we want nothing to do with him. Thank god.

Let me tell you something, the first thing my husband did was get him into therapy. He went to a therapist for years, and it all came out slowly. He never really got over it. When he was an adult even, he suffered severe depression. Any praise made him so uncomfortable. If you did praise him he would smile and say thank you but he would cast his eyes down and just get away as soon as he could. The only time he was truly happy was when he was working. A mans job and all that....He turned to Drugs and alcohol a lot.

When he was 26 he had a drug relapse. He stole some money from us and came to confess. That was big with him, whenever he messed up he always came straight to us to "confess". We had a fight. I had to go to work. My husband took me to work and came home to continue the conversation having cooled down. He found him then, single shotgun wound to the head. We will never be the same.

I share this because I blame his grandparents. That shotgun did not kill my beautiful stepson, those people did. I do also blame his mother but i also know how broken she is, she was cast out of the family eventually too and is in and out of psych hospitals and on so many psych meds she doesn't even know her name half the time. Yes, she allowed it, but they broke her first and then they broke him. and I think its like that for Josh and the duggars.

I am not excusing josh, y'all had me at 4 YEARS OLD. I blame him, yes i do. What he did makes me want to throw up. He is responsible for what he did. But the Duggars, i am borderline rageful at them....They were the indoctrinators....they set this stage and then they handled it as badly as anyone could have. and then they go on tv and look down their lilly white noses at all the sinners....THAT MAKES ME SICK!

Also, as far as writing the girls....i know my son would have been mortified if his past went public in such a spectacular way. it would have increased the shame because he believed always, no matter what any of us said that he was to blame, that he was somehow not good enough. He hid it well, he liked to make the world smile but those of us that really knew him, knew the sadness behind that smile. I think he would have been beyond mortified if strangers started filling up his inbox with support, he would have viewed it as pity and been very uncomfortable with that.

My prayers are with those girls. I can't imagine what they must be going through right now. To have what they view as their private shame be blowing up on the internet. It breaks my heart, all of it, what happened, that its so public now...all of it.

I'm so terribly sorry for your and your husband's loss.

[AB45377]

Now if they would just connect Duggar, Gothard, and Huckabee.

They've been photographed together.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=got ... ajaxhist=0

[SassyPants]

In the episode where the producers and camera personal were interviewed, the crew mentioned that during the first episodes that JB bird dogged the crew because "you could tell that he was worried about the kids being with strangers" or something to that effect....

Ironic, isn't it.

[ApologistsBeDamned]

I'm just here for the Crocoducks.

Those are better with tequila.

[MisUndrstd]

People has several articles at this point--they are very busy backing away from their prior glorification of all things Duggar.

One article is about the old Alice story, and includes a reference, and link, to FJ. There may be a new flood of visitors here shortly--hope the helpmeets are well-rested :p.

The leghumpers are still in full swing, one of the comments written suggests that Oprah, called the authorities and lied to them about the Duggar's to bring the family down... wth? Are people not really reading the articles? Are they just so hung up on defending him that they are not doing any research to formulate a well thought out opinion?

[latraviata]

I'm so terribly sorry for your and your husband's loss.

So am I. This is awful!

[Kantrarian]

Josh's court records destroyed by a judge connected to Huckabee:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... ce-report/

[Hera]

In the episode where the producers and camera personal were interviewed, the crew mentioned that during the first episodes that JB bird dogged the crew because "you could tell that he was worried about the kids being with strangers" or something to that effect....

Ironic, isn't it.

These people are a walking testament to the cliche about the people who are the most outspoken against an issue involving sex being the most to have something to hide.

[AB45377]

PEOPLE is already discussing WHO IS ALICE?!? http://www.people.com/article/online-co ... olestation

[gustava]

They've been photographed together.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=got ... ajaxhist=0

Good find!!!!

[Handmaiden of Dog]

I can't work up any sympathy for Josh whatsoever. True he had useless parents but the fact is he preyed on defenseless young girls to appease his own sexual urges. That is probably far more common than anyone wants to think about.

It has been going on since civilization. Young men hit puberty and society tells them to sublimate their desire until they are old enough/responsible enough/rich enough/ yadda yadda yadda. Pray it out, run it off, take cold showers. What we should be doing is telling them it is normal and masturbation is fine.

Never for get that in Victorian England when women were swaddled in layers upon layers of fabric and were told that "nice" women did not enjoy sex, men were slipping into the brothels to have sex with kids. Young girls always have and always will be targets because they are sexually desirable and inexperienced in how to handle advances. In short most young girls (unless they have had really hard lives) are defenseless-- just as the Duggar girls were.

So it is up to parents to educate and keep their children safe. Uncles, babysitters, and even fathers can be predators without other people having a clue (which I know from bitter, bitter experience.) Every child should be armed with the ability to understand what is going on and to be able to say "No."

Unfortunately the religious community tries to empower their young women by telling them they can control lust by controlling what they wear and how they act. This is just pathetic and dangerous. If nothing else good comes out of this mess I hope that some young women can figure out they are not the ones to blame.

[theinvisiblegirl]

Josh's court records destroyed by a judge connected to Huckabee:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... ce-report/

Is it wrong to think Jim Bob probably called in a favor with his good friend Mike Huckabee to see if he could find a judge to personally handle this?