Boy gets raped by his teacher @ Maranantha Baptist School

[theresa]

Hi All, I'm trying to help an online friend from my state. They are ex fundamental baptists. My friend, Nancy and her husband were teachers at Marnantha Baptist School in Watertown, Wi, where one of their sons, Scott, was raped by his French teacher when he was just 16 (this happened in 1984).

HE gets expelled from school and blamed. You must understand how these kids are raised, they are given no knowledge on sexual issues. The teacher did not get any discipline other than leaving the school and quickly leaving the area. The teacher and her husband did get divorced and her ex husband currently is in a political position in Wisconsin.

This tore their family apart and Scotts parents eventually divorced and have been shunned by the fundamentalist baptist community. Watertown is a very small town with a huge fundy population. A lot of nasty people there who think they are very righteous. They were made to look like the bad ones.

Scott found out recently that this teacher is in fact is back in Wisconsin and still working as a teacher which immediately made him want to tell his story publicly and tell the school and warn people.

Apparently, he was given a restraining order and the teacher now denies what she admitted to in 1984, so does her ex-husband. So the judge is calling him a liar. He is looking for people he went to school with because a lot of people knew this occurred but nobody is coming forward to speak on his behalf (actually it looks like one person did), because currently everybody is calling him a liar and I think that is the reason for the restraining order.

Scott has shared his story on the internet a few years ago and has been trying to bring attention to this woman who is still teaching and is now facing prison time for violating a restraining order. I believe he was trying to go to the school she is working at to inform them of her past, believing if she's capable of doing it once, other students are at risk.

The IFB is notorious for covering up sexual abuse cases and keeping their ministry looking clean. They put ministry above people.

He and his mom are posting a lot on facebook wanting to get his story out there. So I'm going to post what was shared publicly on facebook and anybody with any encouragement for him is welcome to request his friendship on facebook.

This is very personal for me cause I was sexually abused and some of my children were too and I know how hard it is to come forward. It took me over 20 years to tell anybody, and my molester got off with doing that because of the statute of limitations. I want Scott's voice to be heard and believed.

Scott Bicknell

This is what happens to you in Wisconsin if you refuse to shut-up about being sexually abused by a teacher who got away with rape and is still teaching teen boys to this day! If the French teacher who got away with making you her sex toy has an ex-husband who has a powerful political position my suggestion is to just shut-up and carry the scars of that teachers sins alone! I have to raise 4 k more bail money in order to get this GPS off my leg. I had to pee in a cup today in front of a strange man while he stared at my privates because I do not have 4 k more for bail. Talk about not fair!! The lesson here is if you are a sexual abuse survivor your best bet is to just let your assaulter be!! Jail sucks and in Wisconsin the truth about a bad teacher is best kept unsaid! The house burglar and the drug dealer that went ahead of me in court got out on a simple signature bond. My total bail is 5 K. Seems about right huh?!! PLEASE FORWARD

[polecat]

I found this:

http://chucklestravels.com/2012/01/27/c ... injustice/

The whole story is deeply disturbing.

[PrairieGirl]

I'm confused. Why is Scott in jail and why is he wearing a tracking bracelet? Is it in relation to the accusations regarding his rapist?

Also, who is the politician who is the ex-husband of his rapist?

I grew up in Wisconsin. Maranatha is just as fucked up as Bob Jones or Pensacola or any of those other places that call themselves "Christian" schools.

[theresa]

I'm confused. Why is Scott in jail and why is he wearing a tracking bracelet? Is it in relation to the accusations regarding his rapist?

Also, who is the politician who is the ex-husband of his rapist?

I grew up in Wisconsin. Maranatha is just as fucked up as Bob Jones or Pensacola or any of those other places that call themselves "Christian" schools.

Because he violated the restraining order which was very vague from what I understand. I think he was in a certain distance from the school the teacher is now in and I do not know the name of the ex husband. I haven't had time to check, apparently it is easy to find.

If your interested, I'm sure Scott would tell you if you add him as a friend. I feel so bad for all of them!

[Jana814]

How very sad. Poor guy!

[moon rocks]

Not to question the veracity of this story, but is it typical to need bail money when one is already out of jail and running around with a GPS monitoring bracelet on their leg? I'm confused. Also, the linked article is from 2011 and none of the URLs seem to actually take you to what they purport to, like the mother's book on the subject. Further, I'm the same age as Scott. Would a middle-aged man really use the word "privates" to describe his genitals? And finally, for this story to be making the rounds everywhere in an attempt for the victim to be heard, I've found very little online presence for those mentioned.

Anyway, call me skeptical, but considering the open letter talks about how much cash is needed, it just seems that, perhaps, there may be more involved than is shown at first glance.

[polecat]

Not to question the veracity of this story, but is it typical to need bail money when one is already out of jail and running around with a GPS monitoring bracelet on their leg? I'm confused. Also, the linked article is from 2011 and none of the URLs seem to actually take you to what they purport to, like the mother's book on the subject. Further, I'm the same age as Scott. Would a middle-aged man really use the word "privates" to describe his genitals? And finally, for this story to be making the rounds everywhere in an attempt for the victim to be heard, I've found very little online presence for those mentioned.

Anyway, call me skeptical, but considering the open letter talks about how much cash is needed, it just seems that, perhaps, there may be more involved than is shown at first glance.

According to other sources, he (the victim) seems to have struggled with drugs and alcohol quite a bit, so it's possible he has been arrested for something along those lines.

But no, it's not normal to need bail money when you're already out on bail and being monitored.

[theresa]

Here's a link to the wisconsin court page with the charges. Looks like he violated the restraining order from a school. Actually have to put his name in and search for it yourself a link wouldn't work. The website to search for is ccap wisconsin and enter his name there.

This has nothing to do with drugs, he's only wanting to get some vindication. They are looking for people who remember and will tell the court what happened. Very sad situation.

Makes me hate "church people" for covering up, just like Chuck Phelps stood up for the rapist not Tina Anderson, who was forced to apologize to the church and made to go away and give her baby up for adoption.

I'm typing from my phone and it's difficult.

[theresa]

Here is an excerpt from a post from Scott's mom about why he was arrested and she does want this shared.

"Scott recently found out his sexual abusive teacher and her X husband were in nearby public school as administration or teaching in public school. Scott sent an email to the district about his story and all Hades broke loose and the school and the XH took Scott to court for a Restraining orders. The judge read Scott's letter concerning what happened to him at MBBC out of sympathy for Scott's victimization by a rapist and the MBU/Calvary cover up here in Watertown WI. When Scott saw his rapist teacher in court against him he had a PTSD reaction. He violated the RO telling the nemeses how he felt. The school district police detective and the school resource police man came looking for Scott but said they had no warrant. Scott left for vacation to see his kids since there was no warrant and MORE and MORE policemen came to the door. He is not here I would say over and over and ask do you have a warrant and the answer was always NO. Well when Scott returned a swat team of police came to the door and put Scott in jail.

He is looking at 3-5 years on trumped up charges and MARANATHA ADMINISTRATION refuses to tell What happened at there school claiming CONFIDENTIAL...GOOD OLD RELIGIOUS FREEDOM will cost Scot Prison time since his Public Defense lawyer called Scott's victimization a fantasy and a long Saga.

Shame on you Maranatha and all those who are helping Maranatha keep the secret about what happened to Scott at Maranatha

PLEASE HELP US BY SHARING THIS OPEN LETTER"

[theresa]

Here's a public post from today from Scott's mom, Nancy. She's asking everyone to share this. I want so bad for Maranantha to be held accountable for covering this up and blaming the boy for having an "affair" sounds like what Doug Phillips the tool was saying about Lourdes relationship with him.

An Open Letter to Pastor Richard Akin, Pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Jefferson, WI

Remember when Scott played basketball for Maranatha Baptist Academy when you were the principal. I am sure you were shocked when Dr Weniger told you about the then 16 year old Scotts sex abuser teacher's husband had just ran into his office saying "My wife was in a motel last night with her student Scott Bicknell. The husband was so upset at Scott Bicknell the 16 year old student for obviously being in a sexual relationship with his wife. Scott told me you went to get Scott out of the French class and asked Scott "Were you kissing your teacher Mrs. _____" Scott answers " yes " You then took Scott into Dr Weniger's office who asked Scott "Do you love your teacher Mrs. _______? Bewildered and scared to death Scott did answered "Yes", The secret was hard to say out loud because Mrs ______ had told Scott over and over that he could never tell Maranatha or any one about the sex or she would get in trouble.

I remember You Mr. Akins was in Weniger's office when my husband Paul and I were told to come immediately to Dr. Weniger's office. I saw Weniger sitting tall and stately in the MBBA Presidents office. Mr. Akins your face was so red you looked like you had been in a fire, but then I guess you were in the middle of a flaming scandal. Dr. Weniger read his prepared statement to us that " Your son Scott has been dating Mrs_____. Mrs ______ admits she has been dating and kissing Scott Bicknell. Mr. _______ came to me this morning and said he had been called last night by Mrs _______ sisters who then called Mr. ______ telling Mr. ______ that his wife was in a motel room at the Flags motel with Scott Bicknell in water town, Wi. Scott told me that while they were laying naked in bed with his naked teacher Mr. _______ called Mrs. _________. He was on his way Mrs. _________ thought and said to Scott Bicknell " We are busted. That was my husband. Scott get your clothed on and run..run....We are busted, run Scott said he got some of his clothes on and ran out with shoe flapping with each step. Scott said he was running for his life and almost passed out from exhaustion. He ran into our house and went up to his room and locked the door, I was concerned about Scott because he had been out of school for a bit during the time the teacher was having sex with him because he had Mono. ( The teacher kindly hoodwinked us all and asked to tutor Scot at our house. She brought the home work for all Scott's teachers and tutored him at his desk hhhmmmmmmmm in his room while I watched her baby.} His temperature would run up to 105 and he was having panic attacks, Scott would wake us up at night scared and say "I can't breathe" and we would take him to the ER. I often wonder why Scott was never questioned by his Dr. about his state of constant anxiety...but the Dr. never asked him.

Dr. Weniger told us "Your son is expelled and Mr. Akins will escort you all out the front door." We were not allowed to speak much but were quickly escorted to the door. I don't know how you felt Mr. Akins but I know I even felt bad for you having been told to carry out the MBBC presidents dirty works. We went to Calvary Baptist School where Paul taught and told Mr. Munyon acting principal who simply said how old is Scott? I answered 16. MM then smiled like a Cheshire cat...no one called the police.

I have a question for you Mr. Akins. Pastor Lincoln after locking Scott in the basement of the church for days until the teacher was out of town. {We were refusing to send Scott to the Lester Roloff''s boys school in Texas.} Pastor Lincoln told us the Calvary would pay for Scott's Home Schooling. When you and Pastor Lincoln talked about Scott further education I am confused why Calvary would have paid when Scott's records ended up at Maranatha? I was wondering why Calvary and Maranatha conspired together about what to do with the 16 year old. I wondered why we were not told to put him in public school. UNNNNNLLLLLEEEESSSSSSS Maranatha/Calvary were afraid the high school would call MBBC and ask why 16 year old Scott was expelled. I know when Maranatha got new students who were expelled they have to say why. In one case I know of at MBBC the person wrote "I was raped" and the person had to go to MBBC counseling and was told, like Scott was, not to talk about the rape at MBBC. That person's rapist was sitting in the pew in her home church Free as a B ird.....funny Mrs. ______ is free as a little bird too.

Also I have a question about a basketball game you were announcing from the MBBC gym stage. Scott had been expelled for about a month when Scott saved enough money to pay to get into the MBA game to watch his former teammates play basketball with out him. As soon as the head of the athletic department saw Scott he threw him up against the gym wall smashing his back and head into the cement and threw him out. I am sure you saw that Mr. Akins from your stage position. Scott came home to me crying saying "I paid to get in and it is open to the public and the athletic director smashes me against the wall in front of a whole gym audience. I went to the MBBC campus and you saw me walking up to the stage and addressing you in anger. Remember how you covered the microphone so the audience would not hear me yelling "If any one ever lays a hand on my kid at MBBC there will be TROUBLE. My question for you Mr Akins is as you sat there looking all red faced staring at the microphone why did you not tell the audience the truth about why there had been a ruckus.

Finally the most important question of all Mr Akins, why did you not give Scott a statement for court a couple days ago saying what you knew happened to Scott in you academy with his teacher. Apparently as MBU told my two messengers to MBU that you told the administration Scott's teacher admitted to dating and kissing her 16 year old student Scott Bicknell, to you!!!!! You told MBU administration the truth and now that administration is saying your statement of TRUTH told to MBU administration and then to the two messengers is CONFIDENTIAL and can not be repeated......but the messenger told me as I had asked them to do in the pastors office and that my dear old friend broke any privilege. Because I own the PRIVILAGE if there was any and I can repeat what was said and so can you.

Mr. Akins will you also stand behind MBU rule of CONFIDENTIALITY concerning child sexual abuse concerning Scott Bicknell, OR...OR... will you stand up for your beloved student Scott Bicknell with a letter for the court.

Scott will spend 3 to 5 years in prison because his Pro Bono defender t said that Scott's story is a fantasy and a long saga. It sure doesn't sound like a true story for a Christian Baptist college but you and I know what happened is the TRUTH. Please as a Pastor teaching God's Words and modeling Gods image for other pastors student at MBU could you stand up against the MBU administration who says what you told them is Confidential? Could you just tell the TRUTH again? May God convict your Pastor heart as you read my open letter to you and not honor MBU desire for things concerning Scott's sexual abuse CONFIDENTIAL. Honor God's words NOT to hurt His "Little Ones" over honoring the secrecy of Scott's sexual abuse that is expected of you at MBU.

Nancy Bicknell your former classmate and parent of your student Scott Bicknell

PLEASE SHARE THIS OPEN LETTER SO WE ARE SURE PASTOR RICH AKINS SEES IT.

[PurpleSheepleEater]

I have never understood why the Bicknells haven't gotten a lawyer and taken legal action. This happened YEARS ago and they are still expecting the church to do the right thing. It doesn't make sense. Rape of a minor is serious stuff. Why no legal action?????

[apple1]

I have never understood why the Bicknells haven't gotten a lawyer and taken legal action. This happened YEARS ago and they are still expecting the church to do the right thing. It doesn't make sense. Rape of a minor is serious stuff. Why no legal action?????

Ms. Bicknell has been sharing this story across MANY internet sites (especially sites that attract former- or ex- fundies) for years. (A quick google easily goes back to May 2011 on the first page). I in no way support or excuse whatever very wrong things have happened. But something about this - that I can't put my finger on - is "off". It's always Mama sharing the story and looking for - ??? - not sure. Her sons are longtime (years and years) adults. I find myself mostly puzzled by - not so much the story - but by the manner this story has been shared.

[PurpleSheepleEater]

Ms. Bicknell has been sharing this story across MANY internet sites (especially sites that attract former- or ex- fundies) for years. (A quick google easily goes back to May 2011 on the first page). I in no way support or excuse whatever very wrong things have happened. But something about this - that I can't put my finger on - is "off". It's always Mama sharing the story and looking for - ??? - not sure. Her sons are longtime (years and years) adults. I find myself mostly puzzled by - not so much the story - but by the manner this story has been shared.

Exactly. I completely agree.

[theresa]

Where and how do You think she should be sharing it? What other medium is there? I don't find anything off with the story at all. So much evil in IFB.

[PurpleSheepleEater]

Where and how do You think she should be sharing it? What other medium is there? I don't find anything off with the story at all. So much evil in IFB.

I don't think she should be sharing it so much as taking legal action. Nothing can come of sharing it. Does she just want an apology or does she actually want justice? The time has long past for the church and school to do the right thing. She should have had authorities involved from the start. This is not a church matter, it goes well beyond that.

[apple1]

Where and how do You think she should be sharing it? What other medium is there? I don't find anything off with the story at all. So much evil in IFB.

I guess part of my issue is the fact that the sharing is being done by Mama when the victim(s) are longtime adult males. I feel like the victims should at least be involved in the sharing at this point, if indeed sharing is occurring.

I guess I also feel like PurpleSheepleEater - I also fail to understand the lack of some kind of legal case - if not criminal, then civil... ??

I didn't initially have these feelings about this story - I guess it's just that something about it - that I can't exactly put my finger on - seems off.

[theresa]

From what I've read, she's sharing it so much more now because if Scott has witnesses that come forward now to stand up for him and say they remember this happening, the violation of the restraining order charges will not go forward. The school district his former teacher is employed with issued a restraining order against him and he violated it.

I myself was a victim of sexual abuse and I never told a single soul until I was 20 years old, no law enforcement was ever contacted and the person got off free from any consequences. The only reason I told someone was because they were sticking up for him saying that someone had accused him of sexual assault but they didn't believe it. That gave me the courage to say, I believe it, he did it to me.

There is a lot of shame in IFB churches of the victims. Remember Tina Anderson getting pregnant from being raped and her pastor Chuck Phelps having her stand in front of her church and apologize for putting herself in a compromising situation and she was kicked out of school too. Phelps told people Tina had a dating relationship with the rapist Ernie Willis (who is now in prison). That's what the school was calling Scott's relationship with his teacher. And as a side note Phelps actually was the president of Maranthana Bible College in Watertown for a short time too. So the cover up of abusers is great in IFB churches.

I just hope Scott is not sentenced to prison for trying to warn the school about what he suffered at the hands of his teacher.

[PurpleSheepleEater]

From what I've read, she's sharing it so much more now because if Scott has witnesses that come forward now to stand up for him and say they remember this happening, the violation of the restraining order charges will not go forward. The school district his former teacher is employed with issued a restraining order against him and he violated it.

I myself was a victim of sexual abuse and I never told a single soul until I was 20 years old, no law enforcement was ever contacted and the person got off free from any consequences. The only reason I told someone was because they were sticking up for him saying that someone had accused him of sexual assault but they didn't believe it. That gave me the courage to say, I believe it, he did it to me.

There is a lot of shame in IFB churches of the victims. Remember Tina Anderson getting pregnant from being raped and her pastor Chuck Phelps having her stand in front of her church and apologize for putting herself in a compromising situation and she was kicked out of school too. Phelps told people Tina had a dating relationship with the rapist Ernie Willis (who is now in prison). That's what the school was calling Scott's relationship with his teacher. And as a side note Phelps actually was the president of Maranthana Bible College in Watertown for a short time too. So the cover up of abusers is great in IFB churches.

I just hope Scott is not sentenced to prison for trying to warn the school about what he suffered at the hands of his teacher.

The thing is.....if his parents had done the right thing at the beginning and gone to the police she wouldn't still be teaching. His parents didn't handle it right, the school didn't handle it right, the church didn't handle it right. I don't know what the statue of limitations is on rape there but Scott and his parents need to lawyer up and go after this if they really think there is a case to be had. That woman should not be teaching.

Just passing all this around on social media isn't going to do didly squat. It is a legal matter and she needs to handle it legally and professionally. All this social media hype is just making her look a bit nutty. Nothing that was done to her son is right and that's what needs to be fixed. Sending open letters isn't going to do that.

[PrairieGirl]

The thing is.....if his parents had done the right thing at the beginning and gone to the police she wouldn't still be teaching. His parents didn't handle it right, the school didn't handle it right, the church didn't handle it right. I don't know what the statue of limitations is on rape there but Scott and his parents need to lawyer up and go after this if they really think there is a case to be had. That woman should not be teaching.

Just passing all this around on social media isn't going to do didly squat. It is a legal matter and she needs to handle it legally and professionally. All this social media hype is just making her look a bit nutty. Nothing that was done to her son is right and that's what needs to be fixed. Sending open letters isn't going to do that.

I agree. What was done to Scott was horrible, simply horrible. But they need to lawyer up. Find out about the statute of limitations, possible charges, civil suits, etc. Nothing has been done about this. Maranatha doesn't give a shit. None of these IFB churches do. This family needs to get sound legal representation if they want to take Scott's rapist and her enablers down.

[BrownieMomma]

chucklestravels.com/2012/01/27/case-of-injustices-piled-on-injustice/

I read the story at this link. Nancy Bicknell... sorry I am not sure I trust her. Both her sons claim to be horrifically abused. The father has nothing to do with any of this story-telling, which is all that it is since for some reason Nancy Bicknell feels to share a story yet not actually do anything about it.

I am ALWAYS leery of things like this...

Nancy Bicknell has written and recently published her book, “A Mother’s Memoirs of Two Brothers.†It is the story of great pain, the journey to spiritual healing, and hope. A added treat is all of the illustrations in the book are original artwork by Nancy. Please purchase your copy today.

A comment says the book is available, self published, at this link, but following the link says it can't be found. I cannot otherwise find the book.

lulu.com/shop/nancy-bicknell/a-mothers-memoirs-of-two-brothers/ebook/product-20869897.html

Maybe these things really happened, but maybe... they didn't. I wonder why the father has not come forward in support of his sons.

Maybe Nancy Bicknell is a brave and courageous mother who is standing up for her sons. Maybe she's a crazy lady. How can we really know?

[PrairieGirl]

chucklestravels.com/2012/01/27/case-of-injustices-piled-on-injustice/

I read the story at this link. Nancy Bicknell... sorry I am not sure I trust her. Both her sons claim to be horrifically abused. The father has nothing to do with any of this story-telling, which is all that it is since for some reason Nancy Bicknell feels to share a story yet not actually do anything about it.

I am ALWAYS leery of things like this...

A comment says the book is available, self published, at this link, but following the link says it can't be found. I cannot otherwise find the book.

lulu.com/shop/nancy-bicknell/a-mothers-memoirs-of-two-brothers/ebook/product-20869897.html

Maybe these things really happened, but maybe... they didn't. I wonder why the father has not come forward in support of his sons.

Maybe Nancy Bicknell is a brave and courageous mother who is standing up for her sons. Maybe she's a crazy lady. How can we really know?

Call me sick, but I am skeeved out by the thought of "illustrations" in a book that details her sons' horrific abuse. For her boys' sake, I hope she is making it up (which would still make her a very disturbed individual). However, if there is truth to these allegations, see my above comment.

[PurpleSheepleEater]

chucklestravels.com/2012/01/27/case-of-injustices-piled-on-injustice/

I read the story at this link. Nancy Bicknell... sorry I am not sure I trust her. Both her sons claim to be horrifically abused. The father has nothing to do with any of this story-telling, which is all that it is since for some reason Nancy Bicknell feels to share a story yet not actually do anything about it.

I am ALWAYS leery of things like this...

A comment says the book is available, self published, at this link, but following the link says it can't be found. I cannot otherwise find the book.

lulu.com/shop/nancy-bicknell/a-mothers-memoirs-of-two-brothers/ebook/product-20869897.html

Maybe these things really happened, but maybe... they didn't. I wonder why the father has not come forward in support of his sons.

Maybe Nancy Bicknell is a brave and courageous mother who is standing up for her sons. Maybe she's a crazy lady. How can we really know?

I think that the fact that there is not nor has there ever been a legal case against this teacher may tell us everything we can know.

[BrownieMomma]

You know, I am truly all about exposing abuse in any church. Especially church.

Many years ago I read a book about abuse in the church, gosh probably 10-15 years at least, so I do not remember the title.

It was eye-opening and depressing and made very good points. One of those good points is that people often feel safe at church, what's going to happen at church? Other people take advantage of that, for example, it told the story of a man at a church who was abusing children in the bathroom. Parents regularly let their kids go to the bathroom alone at church - and this man would prey on them, touch them, take pictures, always with the admonition of don't tell anyone.

It's not just a Catholic problem or an IFB problem. Church is a place that attracts predators because there are children available. And yes, these children are generally taught to be obedient to adults so it makes it that much easier to prey on them.

After I read that, I shuddered to remember how a single man at my large Houston church, my Sunday School teacher, took an interest in my young son, would take him places, take him to his house. There was never any indication that anything happened but I was classically blind and that man could have easily been taking advantage of my son.

It's possible that church hierarchy pressured the parents, who after all were employees of the school, to not file any legal charges but to let the church handle it. That is very possible. It just seems like that when the parents made the break from the school/church, that they could have then gone to the police.

idk it just seems a bit wild that both the boys suffered some terrible sexual abuse, and honestly, many people don't really see teen boys banging their hot teacher as abuse. Now the other case, yes, I think most people would agree that's abuse.

I watch cold case tv shows so perhaps there might be some cops or detectives who could get to the bottom of this. I've no idea if there is a statute of limitations on a crime like this, I hope not.

The Bicknells need to pursue this legally or else stop spreading these stories unless they have some kind of proof.

[polecat]

I think that the fact that there is not nor has there ever been a legal case against this teacher may tell us everything we can know.

It may tell us several things.

It may tell us that there wasn't enough evidence to press charges or wasn't enough evidence to win the case. It may tell us that they dilly dallied until the statute of limitations passed (unlikely -- but possible). It may tell us that the victims may not have been willing to press charges or proceed with the case.

What it does not tell us is that nothing ever happened. If that was the case, then there are a whole lot of rape survivors who'd be thoroughly surprised to hear that they weren't actually raped since there was never a legal case against their rapist.

I have no idea whether this happened or not or whether it was blown out of proportion (maybe inappropriate contact occurred but it wasn't to the degree of rape), but I do bristle at the idea that we assume victims are lying if the abusers never faced legal consequences.

[BrownieMomma]

I have no idea whether this happened or not or whether it was blown out of proportion (maybe inappropriate contact occurred but it wasn't to the degree of rape), but I do bristle at the idea that we assume victims are lying if the abusers never faced legal consequences.

I am not saying just because of legal consequences. I am also saying that this mother supposedly wrote a book complete with her own illustrations of the abuse her sons allegedly suffered. I am saying she has been conducting what might be a smear campaign, and that the teacher had to get an RO suggests the teacher felt threatened.

I am saying, before you go around accusing by writing a book and drumming up social media, you file charges or you provide proof - not go on social media to try to find someone who will corroborate your story because you actually don't have any proof.

The father was involved in all that stuff with the kid at Maranatha and he is not coming forward and supporting this, so why?

I have reservations, I don't blindly assume the mother is honest or truthful or even sane or competent.

She has upped the ante here lately because her son went to jail for violating the RO.