Lori and the PP collide

[DGayle]

lorialexander.blogspot.com/2014/09/god-multiplied-our-conception.html#idc-container

Why do I read her crap? It just makes me furious! :pull-hair:

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

Lori, people do think about whether or not to stop having kids. I didn't stop because of my feelings or society, but because my husband I wanted to be sure we could support the family we have instead of subjecting our family to poverty. Between having the large family my heart wants, but knowing they'd be deprived of a lot that life has to offer, or keeping our family small so our children can be educated and stable and have plenty of nutritious food and activities that let them develop as individuals, how would it be anything other than selfish for me and my husband to have what our hearts want, which is more kids, when it means the kids we already have would be the ones making the sacrifice?

This is why I don't understand why let god decide. If you want kids, have them. If someone else really doesn't, but has them anyway, how is that good for the kids? If a family is already not able to feed the kids they have, isn't it better to tend to the flock they have instead of adding more? Not everyone goes to church in an area with enough wealth to supply everything tons of large families need.

I can't be the only one frustrated with the idea of having more kids when someone stops because of wanting to make sure they can afford them. The lord doesn't always provide. Christian children starve to death every day. Why take from kids who already don't have enough so Mom and Dad can prove they can still make babies?

I don't expect you'll answer this since it's not all praise and rainbows, but I wish you would.

Let's see if there's any chance of an answer.

[jerkit]

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

HOLY SHITE SHE ANSWERED

[polecat]

Fertility is not a disease.

I always wonder if the people who say things like this have only ever had positive pregnancy experiences and outcomes.

[lilith]

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

HOLY SHITE SHE ANSWERED

Where?

[formergothardite]

The way Ken is desperately trying to claim the Bible says porn isn't nearly as bad as a wife that nags makes it clear that he is watching porn and found a way to shame Lori into not bothering him about it. These two are the ones that have said over and over that the Bible must be taken literally as it is written in English yet suddenly Ken refuses to do this when it comes to the words of Jesus. :roll: And says that anyone who does do this is elevating the husband's sin over the wife's sin. :angry-banghead:

They have also jumped all over women for bringing up their feelings but now Ken wants them to rely on their feelings.

Would you ever say to your husband, "You looking at porn is the same as committing adultery, so why don't you go out and do it." Then when he actually goes out and does it, are you telling me that your feelings will not then be 100% changed and you will see a huge divide between the lust and the actual physical act of sin?

Ken would flip out if anyone quoted back to him all his own words about not relying on feelings.

[polecat]

The way Ken is desperately trying to claim the Bible says porn isn't nearly as bad as a wife that nags makes it clear that he is watching porn and found a way to shame Lori into not bothering him about it. These two are the ones that have said over and over that the Bible must be taken literally as it is written in English yet suddenly Ken refuses to do this when it comes to the words of Jesus. :roll: And says that anyone who does do this is elevating the husband's sin over the wife's sin. :angry-banghead:

They have also jumped all over women for bringing up their feelings but now Ken wants them to rely on their feelings.

Ken would flip out if anyone quoted back to him all his own words about not relying on feelings.

The bolded strikes me as so childish. "Yabbut what you did was waaaay worse!" Geez, Ken, grow up and take responsibility for your choices.

On another note, it could be argued that God is the one who "elevates" the husband's sin over the wife's sin, if Ken really wants to go there. Luke 12:48, for example, "But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." Since you claim that God has put you in a position of authority over your wife, I think it's safe to say that he'll also hold you more accountable for the sins you commit as her headship. Hebrews 13:17 says, “Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account ..." And James 3:1, "My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation."

Seems to me, Ken, that you want all the perks of leadership/headship without any of the responsibilities. You want to look at porn even though it hurts your wife's feelings, but you don't want her saying "boo" about it because: LEADER! But it doesn't actually work that way even if one DOES believe in wifely submission.

You know, I think I'll add 1 Corinthians 13:4, 5 here, too, "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs." And maybe Prov. 16:18, while I'm at it."Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall."

[jerkit]

LOL @ "emotional adultery does not exist"

WTAF planet are you on ken?!

[Beb]

I am enjoying imagining a ZsuZsu face to face throwdown with Cabinetman. As mean as she is, Zsu is hella scrappy. I'd bet on her, even against the "strongest man in the world", big as a mountain though he is.

......and even against the PP, although some think Zsu is submissive to his headship. Not even close.