Kirk Cameron Christmas Movie - MERGE

[Hane]

Major logic fails

1) Why it's okay to have a Christmas tree

Kirk argues that the bible begins in the Garden of Eden which was filled with trees. Adam ate the fruit from a tree and couldn't return the fruit to the tree without placing himself on the tree. Jesus, the last Adam, returned himself to the tree (the cross since it's made out of wood) in order to save humanity from sin.

Fun fact learned from a Unitarian-Universalist minister: There are some scholars who believe that the Christmas tree has its origins in the medieval practice of having an apple tree, representing the tree in the Garden of Eden, placed in the church.

freehannie, thanks for enduring this clusterfuck on our behalf.

[FloraKitty35]

Fun fact learned from a Unitarian-Universalist minister: There are some scholars who believe that the Christmas tree has its origins in the medieval practice of having an apple tree, representing the tree in the Garden of Eden, placed in the church.

freehannie, thanks for enduring this clusterfuck on our behalf.

I have read that about the apple tree, too.

[JBsHairspray]

Yes - it was on his Facebook page. All I added was the inner dialogue. :D

Sadly he didn't do movie PR in this sweater.

[thoughtful]

Sadly he didn't do movie PR in this sweater.

He would probably love that sweater. Part of the thrust of the whole project is to help people feel OK about mixing the silly, secular and fun ways they celebrate with the religious aspect of Christmas.

It wouldn't be a bad idea, except that he went about it by coming up with inaccurate reasons, then put them into a phenomenally bad movie.

:D

[KnittingOwl]

I've decided, after reading this thread, that i need to invite Kirk over for Xmas dinner. The hightlight of the evening would be the two trees I have. The Doctor Who tree and my Steelers tree. Because nothing says Christ like a tree with a weeping angel as a topper or a yellow tree with Steelers ornaments and black lights.

Gee, I wonder if my tree choices are based on the fact that parts of Christmas are commercial and, horror of horrors, pagan.

Damn, I forgot my yule log.

I want to see your trees. Where did you find a weeping angel tree topper?!

[PennySycamore]

I want to see your trees. Where did you find a weeping angel tree topper?!

Probably the same place that made some Tardis stitch markers. If only I needed some markers for the Dr Who scarf I'm knitting for my son-in-law. I don't though; it's just garter stitch with color changes every so often.

[thoughtful]

Why is it that everything in this Facebook post sounds like a double-entendre?

I had a ton of fun beating Wally at an indoor snowman building contest on The Wally Show last week which ended with a lot of whipped cream in Wally's beard! We talked about roasting chestnuts in my fireplace, Christmas movies and how his heart has grown larger and kinder since he deepened his faith in God.

https://www.facebook.com/kirkcameron/timeline

[Snarkle]

Why is it that everything in this Facebook post sounds like a double-entendre?

https://www.facebook.com/kirkcameron/timeline

Sounds like an alternative version of the Grinch where his heart grew three sizes and he joined the Whos in the Double Entendre games.

[Snarkle]

Interesting how Kirk is now having to save his movie after trying to Save Christmas. It might have made already made a profit (or at least broken even, it's hard to tell since it doesn't seem the budget is listed anywhere I could find - Fireproof cost $500K for example), but it also lost over 35% of its audience from week one to week two...let's hope the trend continues?

boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=savingchristmas.htm

[thoughtful]

Some of the Rotten Tomatoes reviews are in the article linked below. Excerpts:

So bad it made me want to convert to Zoroastrianism. –Christopher M

The thing that so impressed me about this movie was the closing credits. They were manna from Heaven after this soul-sucking ordeal. Well, I was impressed by the closing credits, and how the teams of EMTs shouting ‘CLEAR!’ as they tried to revive several audience members who’d tried to end their own lives rather than sit through this movie, sounded like a sort of round-robin chorus of abandoned hope. The star, Kirk Cameron, is an evangelical Christian who not only believes in eternal salvation, he tries to sap the will to live in this world from his audience through his demonically bad acting. This is a can’t-miss motion picture if you’ve recently lost the power of sight and want to stop yourself from longing for visual entertainment. –Gina C

Jesus wept. Then demanded a full refund and punched a reindeer. –P.j. G

From the comments:

Puts the Christ back in "Christ Almighty. What the fuck was that drivel?"

All the thespian skills of porn... without the porn.

http://samuel-warde.com/2014/11/kirk-ca ... -tomatoes/

[Firiel]

My brain just keeps searching for ways that ol' Kirky could be a Poe. Because a world where this movie was seriously made and is seriously being defended by people is a world in which I do not want to live.

[homeschoolmomma1]

I really wanted to see if this movie was bad, but I just don't know. As a Catholic I feel Kirk doesn't have his facts right and driving 50 miles is foolish when it will get on DVD someday. Am I right? Also, where does Kirk get 94% on Rotten Tomatoes because I just went on there and it was 8% :/ weird.

So am i good just to save my money?

[Coco]

Some of the Rotten Tomatoes reviews are in the article linked below. Excerpts:

From the comments:

http://samuel-warde.com/2014/11/kirk-ca ... -tomatoes/

:worship: oh those reviews. dying. i'm about to wake up my kids and hubby. :lol:

[formergothardite]

My favorite review because it is so true:

Had "Saving Christmas" run any longer, Cameron would no doubt have found a way to find the divinity in Frosty, Rudolph, the Grinch, peppermint bark, the Elf on the Shelf, frosted cranberry hand soap and Mr. Hanky the Christmas Poo

If you have to beg for good reviews that is a clear sign you made a shitty movie.

[doggie]

I can't find the video on youtube but this is a great redux of the man telling us how bad gays are it is pretty funny

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/2 ... 03802.html

[thoughtful]

This guy really doesn't know when to stop.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10 ... =2&theater

:sleeping:

[formergothardite]

I sometimes wonder if he is on drugs or having some sort of a break with reality. He really just comes off as crazy.

[doggie]

[shedemei]

Why is it that everything in this Facebook post sounds like a double-entendre?

https://www.facebook.com/kirkcameron/timeline

What do you mean? He was just beating Wally until there was a thick white substance in his beard.

[Mama Mia]

Man that St. Nicolas clip was......something. It's so hard to believe it wasn't a parody. :lol:

I am very, very confused as to why St. Nicolas looked like he walked off the set of Clan of the Cave Bear and straight into a Tudor village though. Was he a time traveler? :cray-cray:

[samurai_sarah]

Man that St. Nicolas clip was......something. It's so hard to believe it wasn't a parody. :lol:

I am very, very confused as to why St. Nicolas looked like he walked off the set of Clan of the Cave Bear and straight into a Tudor village though. Was he a time traveler? :cray-cray:

Hush! You may be giving away the plot for the Doctor Who Christmas special, where it turns out that all the villagers are Daleks. :lol:

[Joan of Snarc]

I'm pretty sure Kirk-do's shitty movie is ruining Christmas.

Also, this

I'm not a fan of Kirk Cameron but this holiday season I will go see this movie. My Dad does go a little over board believing anything Christian positive that's family I guess. This movie brought me to tears this afternoon, because of what an impact it made on him. He contacted my mom whom he has bitterly avoided since the divorce and he apologized for everything he said during the holidays. He told her he was sorry for all the ruined Christmases in the past and for taking the fun out of her favorite holiday. I will go see it because I want to know what put so much kindness in his grumpy heart.

never happened.

:roll:

[nokidsmom]

I'm pretty sure Kirk-do's shitty movie is ruining Christmas.

Also, this

never happened.

:roll:

So let me get this straight. This movie has such power over it's watchers that it turns around a grumpy man's attitude towards his ex-wife and Christmas. All by seeing this movie!

Agree never happened.

[formergothardite]

So let me get this straight. This movie has such power over it's watchers that it turns around a grumpy man's attitude towards his ex-wife and Christmas. All by seeing this movie!

Agree never happened.

Pretty sure this is the plot of a cheesy Hallmark or Lifetime Christmas movie.

[anjulibai]

Pretty sure this is the plot of a cheesy Hallmark or Lifetime Christmas movie.

Kirk Cameron could star in it.