Wives hired rabbi's to kidnap, torture husbands

[Peas n carrots]

Da fuq? Once again, the beliefs of fundies (of any stripe) hurt not just women, but everyone!

(Reuters) - A pair of Orthodox Jewish rabbis hired themselves out for years to unhappy wives who wanted their husbands kidnapped and beaten until they agreed to divorces, federal prosecutors in New Jersey said on Friday after arresting 10 men they said were involved in the scheme.

Orthodox Jewish women cannot divorce unless husbands consent through a document known as a "get." Wives paid tens of thousands of dollars to Rabbis Mendel Epstein, Martin Wolmark and eight associates, who abducted their husbands and beat them until they agreed to issue the "get," prosecutors charged in papers unsealed in U.S. District Court in Trenton on Thursday.

U.S. Attorney Paul Fishman said on Friday that the racket, uncovered in a sting operation, had been running in various forms for years.

"I can't tell you the same 10 guys showed up for each one," Fishman acknowledged.

In the sting operation, a pair of undercover FBI agents, posing as an Orthodox Jewish wife and her brother, were to pay $10,000 up front, and another $50,000 to pay for "tough guys" who would beat her husband.

"This is not an act involving a religious ritual," Fishman said, "This is something that was done for money."

Attorneys for the 10 men arrested, who are being held in federal custody, could not be reached for comment on Friday.

Epstein discussed using thugs armed with electric cattle prods and handcuffs to persuade husbands to grant the "get" documents, according to a court filing by prosecutors.

Blu Greenberg, founder of the national Jewish Orthodox Feminist Alliance, said schemes like the one that authorities charged Epstein and his associates with running were a response to a problem known as "get abuse," in which husbands demand a larger share of the couple's communal property to approve of the divorce.

While a "get" is not required for a civil divorce, that proceeding would not be recognized by Orthodox leaders, which means that the woman's children by future marriages would be regarded as illegitimate.

Turning to a gang such as the one charged in New Jersey, "is an act of desperation," Greenberg said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-newjersey-rabbis-20131011,0,1729287.story

[tropaka]

Wasn't this a plot line on the Sopranos? (i.e. someone hired Tony's thugs to "persuade" a husband to agree to a "get")

[salex]

Da fuq? Once again, the beliefs of fundies (of any stripe) hurt not just women, but everyone!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-newjersey-rabbis-20131011,0,1729287.story

So, a new "reality" show is in the offing?

[Mary C Doates]

So, a new "reality" show is in the offing?

The Real Rebbes of Rockland County.

According to the local papers, the "kidnap team" dressed in Hallowe'en masks, bandannas, and--in one instance--a Metallica t-shirt. I dunno...do tzitzits "go" with heavy metal t-shirts? Do you wear a kippah with little horns as well? Sounds like a fashion faux pas to me.

[cindyluvs24]

Did they use fellow Orthodox to do the actual physical abuse or did they outsource?

[Mary C Doates]

Did they use fellow Orthodox to do the actual physical abuse or did they outsource?

Sounds like they used members of congregations or sects associated with the rebbes involved, although I don't know if they identified which group(s) are involved.

The Jewish Press routinely prints the names of men who have refused to give gets, and urges readers to essentially shun them. Using a cattle prod on a guy's genitals to convince him to coöperate with a divorce seems a little...extreme, though.

[Arete]

Sounds like they used members of congregations or sects associated with the rebbes involved, although I don't know if they identified which group(s) are involved.

The Jewish Press routinely prints the names of men who have refused to give gets, and urges readers to essentially shun them. Using a cattle prod on a guy's genitals to convince him to coöperate with a divorce seems a little...extreme, though.

At least some of the guys involved in this racket who were not the rabbis were fellow Orthodox Jews. Judging by the names, everyone including the muscle were Jews. I just hopped over to failmessiah.com, and S. Rosenberg managed to get an actual copy of the complaint filed in federal court. Apparently these guys actually used the sect's bet din (Jewish religious court) to sanction the violence (which includes kidnapping). Take a look and please someone double check my interpretation that they used a bet din:

failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2013/10/superseding-indictment-against-rabbis-mendel-epstein-martin-wolmark-jay-moshe-avrohom-goldstein-biny-567.html

[thoughtful]

:shock: