Kelly 2 chicken breasts looking for intelligent folk *snort*

[SquirrelySquirrel]

"Sorry LittleSquirrel, yer just gonna hafta go nekkid til someone drops off some clothes." WTF?

I'm so glad she mentioned the library and thrift stores. I never would have know such places existed! :roll: Though, as mentioned, the library is an evil government entity. And I have to pay for my card (about $60/yr) because I don't live inside the city limits, though it's totally worth it of course.

[OnceModestTwiceShy]

If they were consistent in their anti-government, anti-taxes ideology, they would consider the library a form of stealing and would make a point of paying for every book they read.

[OkToBeTakei]

Aww Kelly tried to get all condescending and patronising in a reply.

Bitchiness is next to Godliness apparently :lol:

:popcorn2:

[JMarie]

Eh just some posts ago she talked about going to the library and museums. Aren't libraries and museums sponsored by the ebil goverment? What about the roads she would have to drive on to get there or anywhere? Low-intellectual idiot *!

*Note: I do not have anything against people with learning difficulties. I used to work at a home for people with Down's syndrome. Lovely and wonderful people - all of them. I enjoyed my job a lot. But they couldn't help their lot in life. And they functioned at a higher intellectual level than this supposed intellectual giant - Kelly. Something that I can't stand is when reasonably intelligent people make themselves dumber than people with actual learning difficulties.

I checked out the admission price for the local children's museum, just to see if Kelly was right about one (and only one) thing. Admission is free for the under one's, and $16 for children and adults. Discount rates available for groups of fifteen or more, which IIRC wouldn't apply to Kelly's family, and are $13 per person. Don't forget the $8 parking fee, and there you go, an inexpensive field trip to the museum.

[Marian the Librarian]

It never fails to amaze and amuse this little ol' librarian (closing in on 4 decades in the profession, OMG) - the Kelly-Two-Chicken-Breasts of this world going on and on about eeeebil gummint services, but being only too happy to avail themselves of mine. As Kelly herself so elegantly sums it up, "the point is the hypocrisy!"

:evil-eye:

[tanksmom]

But what about those of us who don't begrudge where our taxes go? For full disclosure, at some point in my life I didn't know where my next meal was coming from. I've been in the position of do I eat or do I feed my kids? That sucks and no amount of romanticism will make it better. I've been down on the bottom and now that I'm not I have no issue with helping others. It doesn't matter to me if you willfully put yourself in the situation, I have no issue with my tax dollars helping to make your life better. So Kelly is that enough of an intelligent response for you. Me, who no longer believes in God is willing to give my tax money to those that have not. I believe that everyone deserves a second (or third, or fourth) chance to get back on track. I also believe that most people who are given a hand up will return the kindness threefold.

But of course I'm to be written off since I don't believe the same as you. /snark/

[Boogalou]

Museums can be free or inexpensive depending on the museum, and if Kelly is in a rural area this is probably true of the museums around her. This is especially true of historic homes, schools, churches, and things like that. I just looked at a bunch of the museums the City of Toronto operates (which are theoretically going to be slightly more expensive because they are in Toronto) and all are about $6 or $7 for adults, many are less. Of course, they are run by the government/communists/Muslims/abortionists/feminists/atheists/whathaveyou, and you run the risk of them all murdering you when you visit because they don't believe anything happens after they die, but still. Within about an hour of me I can't think of a single museum that costs more than $5 for admission for adults, but then I am in a pretty rural area.

[Nootbar]

Yeah, here's a real thinker:

Amen. Please go get yourself some damn food stamps so you can feed your kids!

[JMarie]

Museums can be free or inexpensive depending on the museum, and if Kelly is in a rural area this is probably true of the museums around her. This is especially true of historic homes, schools, churches, and things like that. I just looked at a bunch of the museums the City of Toronto operates (which are theoretically going to be slightly more expensive because they are in Toronto) and all are about $6 or $7 for adults, many are less. Of course, they are run by the government/communists/Muslims/abortionists/feminists/atheists/whathaveyou, and you run the risk of them all murdering you when you visit because they don't believe anything happens after they die, but still. Within about an hour of me I can't think of a single museum that costs more than $5 for admission for adults, but then I am in a pretty rural area.

I'm in Philly. Even to visit the zoo costs $20 per "adult" (12 and up) and $18 for kids 2-11. Nothing's cheap here.

[OnceModestTwiceShy]

In my area you can get free passes to the big museums in tbe city from your local library. Maybe they have that where she lives, in which case, OMG DOUBLE SOCIALISM.

[2xx1xy1JD]

She points out something valid - and then goes down the rabbit hole into crazy town.

She IS right that focusing on one group for receiving one type of government benefit is hypocritical, if you then ignore all of the other government spending including items that may benefit you. For example, don't attack moms on welfare when Wall Street gets billions in bailouts.

She then promptly loses me as she goes bragging about not using food stamps, but trusting God to feed her kids. Look, Kelly, I have no problem if YOU can feed your kids, but this magical idea that food will appear out of thin air is a bit much. Your kids are thin, you have described meals that are clearly gross and inadequate, and as the ADULT and PARENT, you have a basic responsibility to make sure that your kids are properly fed.

OTOH, I can imagine that it would be fairly easy to lure her kids away from fundie-dom. Just let them see other kids of less holy parents eating until they are full.

[Full disclosure: I'm a member of a religious group that sees gluttony not as a sin, but as a essential part of the religious experience. Food plays a major role in marketing.]

[Effie]

I find this both disturbing and slightly amusing at the same time:

Word Warrior says:

June 19, 2013 at 6:12 pm

Oh Lyssa,

Don’t embarrass yourself with such naive comments, meant to be condescending. Major problem: your opinions are refuted by well-documented studies. Currently, public schools all over the country (including 75% of the schools in our state) are receiving a “failing†rate. All the while, homeschoolers are thriving, getting full-paid tuition into major universities (not that I consider that the only evidence of a good education, but I know that is your measure), running their own businesses, and a whole host of other things.

Always interesting that she fails to cite those "well-documented studies". Anyway, I certainly do not doubt that many homeschoolers are thriving. I just find it amusing that Kelly thinks that would somehow prove that her kind of home-schooling must be superb as well. Here's a hint; the ACE curriculum doesn't exactly help students thrive. :roll: Too bad I can't tell her that (I was obviously blocked that time when I debated socialism with her), but I seriously doubt she would get it anyhow.

[OkToBeTakei]

I find this both disturbing and slightly amusing at the same time:

Always interesting that she fails to cite those "well-documented studies". Anyway, I certainly do not doubt that many homeschoolers are thriving. I just find it amusing that Kelly thinks that would somehow prove that her kind of home-schooling must be superb as well. Here's a hint; the ACE curriculum doesn't exactly help students thrive. :roll: Also, you're an idiot.

Somebody asked are to cite the 'well documented studies' to which she replied the internet is FREE and that she had posted them on her blog so go and search. OH dear Kelly. How slovenly. Jesus will not be happy you are not willing to go that wee bit extra to convince a non-believer. :hand:

[Boogalou]

I'm in Philly. Even to visit the zoo costs $20 per "adult" (12 and up) and $18 for kids 2-11. Nothing's cheap here.

Oh yeah, I'd believe it. I guess Kelly has to realize her advice isn't universally applicable because people live all over the place. SHOCKING!

I've been to Philadelphia though and it's a really nice city.... except you made me curious about how much stuff was when I was there. Independence Hall is free and the Betsy Ross House is $5 for an adult. Maybe not things for little kids though!

[OkToBeTakei]

Krisin,

Actually, you are not understanding what I mean here by “thinking consistentlyâ€. Re-read the example in the post. It has nothing to do with your definition. It simply means you can’t extol, expect, love and cling to one form of socialism (in this case, one person’s tax dollars paying for your child’s education) while simultaneously expressing your disdain with a different form, to the point of telling someone whether they should or should not have children.

Also, there isn’t any reference in this post to why it is biblical or not. But practically speaking, most taxation and subsidy programs are a form a theft. The Bible does speak clearly to that. Certainly, since we’ve been accustomed to so many forms for so long, the answer isn’t an easy or instant one, and I don’t pretend it is. But there are answers that would better suit our society if we were willing to even begin.

This in response to this.

I think that I have trouble this idea of thinking consistently— as in you have the same opinion about something when applied to every situation (am I reading into this correctly?).

While many of you may disagree, I am going to say yes, I do think consistently. I think consistently that I can not determine what is best for another person. When I was younger, I was much more idealistic. There was a right and a wrong answer for everything– issues were black and white. However, as I have grown up, moved, married, met different people from various backgrounds than my own, loved people, dealt with loss and heartache– I have realized that there is peace in the gray. Hardly anything (aside from those things that are on the far ends of the good and bad spectrum) is all good or all bad. I choose to live in the gray- to not judge what is best for anyone else, but rather to encourage them to make the right decisions for themselves. Therefore, I say that government programs are not all good, or all bad.

Krisin. You are everything Kelly will never be. You are just trying to work it out. As we all are.

Kelly has it all worked out. She is entitled and ignorant. But she has a blog that makes her feel important. It also I believe gives her an income. BGLOD is good :lol:

Aww Applause for Krisin. Also for all other 'thinkers' who posted. STILL waiting for Kelly's education links

[formergothardite]

Did Kelly even read Krisin's post? Her reply doesn't even make sense.

[OkToBeTakei]

Did Kelly even read Krisin's post? Her reply doesn't even make sense.

Well does it matter to Kelly?

She is just a fanny. But I do enjoy her trying to be intelligent 8-)

[France Nolan]

Oh yeah, I'd believe it. I guess Kelly has to realize her advice isn't universally applicable because people live all over the place. SHOCKING!

I've been to Philadelphia though and it's a really nice city.... except you made me curious about how much stuff was when I was there. Independence Hall is free and the Betsy Ross House is $5 for an adult. Maybe not things for little kids though!

I live outside of NYC. Just to get to the museums costs a ton of money. Metro cards aren't cheap, and neither is gas. It's criminal what we're charged to use the LIRR and then we need to get Metro cards for NYC. It's almost $35 for an adult to go to the Bronx Zoo. It's $19 for an adult to go to the Museum of Natural History. It's $25 for an adult to go to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Now, I'm sure Kelly would never take her children to NYC or to our museums because ZOMG defrauding art/animals/science.

:naughty:

[Arete]

I live outside of NYC. Just to get to the museums costs a ton of money. Metro cards aren't cheap, and neither is gas. It's criminal what we're charged to use the LIRR and then we need to get Metro cards for NYC. It's almost $35 for an adult to go to the Bronx Zoo. It's $19 for an adult to go to the Museum of Natural History. It's $25 for an adult to go to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Now, I'm sure Kelly would never take her children to NYC or to our museums because ZOMG defrauding art/animals/science.

:naughty:

You forgot to mention the potential to see people with green hair. Last time I was in the MOMA, there was a 20something guy there with some of his hair in a purple spike, bold as you please. Was anybody thinking about the children when they let him in? :snooty:

[notsocommon]

I find this both disturbing and slightly amusing at the same time:

Always interesting that she fails to cite those "well-documented studies". Anyway, I certainly do not doubt that many homeschoolers are thriving. I just find it amusing that Kelly thinks that would somehow prove that her kind of home-schooling must be superb as well. Here's a hint; the ACE curriculum doesn't exactly help students thrive. :roll: Too bad I can't tell her that (I was obviously blocked that time when I debated socialism with her), but I seriously doubt she would get it anyhow.

I think that it is safe to say that Kelly's kids would not even admitted into a good college, much less get a full ride scholarship. The kids that are getting tons of scholarships and (successfully) running a (thriving) business were actually educated by dedicated parents who drove acidemics... not fundie style.

[Boogalou]

Free NYC museums! http://www.nycgo.com/articles/free-nyc-museums Obviously that doesn't include gas and parking or transit.

The Museum of Biblical Art is free so it's Kelly approved (except probably not). But she would probably like the Irish Hunger Memorial.

[Trynn]

I've read a few biographies of Laura Ingalls Wilder. Actually, she and her daughter, Rose Wilder Lane, were VERY anti-government assistance, to the point that during WW2 they used to ration cards. I don't remember, but I think they opposed the use of them by other people as well.

However, her family was known to take government assistance. It's not stated in the books, but actually, Mary's college tuition was paid for by the state of (South?) Dakota. Almanzo (LIW's husband) took out loans to pay for the farm equipment.

[Nootbar]

[Full disclosure: I'm a member of a religious group that sees gluttony not as a sin, but as a essential part of the religious experience. Food plays a major role in marketing.]

Ok, where do I sign up???

[JesusFightClub]

I guess this means Kelly and hubby have not claimed any child tax credits or earned income credits. They must have refused all tax exemptions and rebates for people in disaster areas too, right? Right? I'd guess, like with most things, that the only moral government subsidy is my government subsidy :roll:

Hell, Kelly the 2 breasts family still live on her parents' property, don't they? I love their careful distinctions that allow them to disparage those on government assistance while freeloading the hell off of any private citizen they can bilk.

Yes. This.

If you really hate the idea of anyone having government assistance, move to your ideal state. Somalia.

(You'll find you don't get a pension there either. Or working roads. Or healthcare. Or, well, anything. But the Bible says God will provide, right?)

I was also rolling my eyes at the idea Kelly's some kind of genius thinker. Seriously. She isn't consistent in her own life but everyone else has to be because she's sooo Godly that any of her errors don't matter?

[Effie]

I'm curious what kind of scientific databases Kelly uses to find all those "well-documented studies".