High school student starts modesty club

[doggie]

So far this does not seem religious based but it does have some of the quirks though not as bad. We all know shoulders are the sexiest things ever.

High-school freshman Saige Hatch was sick of seeing her peers revealing too much skin when she came to school each day.

The 15-year-old saw midriff-grazing tops, exposed cleavage, short shorts.

"From elementary to middle school, and then to high school, I noticed immodesty," she told ABCNews.com. "I really wanted to start a club to bring awareness to it and bring remembrance to what modesty is."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/calif-hs-stude ... MNoH7YXC9s

[DarkAnts]

I am having flashbacks from the Glee episode with the abstinence club.

[Guest Anonymous]

She was inspired by her brother's No Cussing Club apparently. And the modesty standards are from their Mormon church...

http://www.mercurynews.com/california/c ... e-at-south

If her brother really did get all the hate-mail they claim he got over the no-cussing, then why allow their daughter to pose in a bust-enhancing dress to advertise her modesty club. Not going to post name or pics as she is a minor, but for feck's sake, why can't the parents do things to attract their own persecution instead of putting their kids in the firing line?

[theologyofyourface]

What I want to know is why Saige (ugh) is spending so much time paying attention to what other people are wearing. If she were my kid I would encourage her to spend more time studying and doing extracurricular things and less time thinking about other people's clothes. I know teens tend to care very much about what other people are doing and saying and wearing, but IMO it's pretty shallow and silly, and I would want to help her grow out of that. I know my mom spent a lot of time telling me not to spend so much time worrying about other people's choice and to worry about my own instead when I was that age.

[ILoveJellybeans]

I think there are better ways to waste their time, and if she was my kid I would tell her to stop judging people by the way they look, ignore what people are wearing, and find a better use of her time like studying or taking up a sport.

[doggie]

Also I think it is an attention getting deal too. High school is bad enough without drawing bad attention to yourself. maybe the family had the martyr complex going on.

[mirele]

I have to wonder how much of this was Saige's idea, and how much of it was her parents' idea. After all, her brother McKay is 18 now and likely out of high school. (This is the same question I asked when the No Cussing Club was started, too.)

[Dysfundamental]

To "bring awareness" to what? Judging other students' clothing choices?

I know from friends who are Orthodox/Muslima/simply prefer to wear very "covered" clothing styles for their own reasons that it can be difficult to find comfortable, affordable clothes that meet their needs. So I could actually see the point of a Modest Clothing Club where students who preferred those styles traded tips on where to find clothes, sewing ideas and patterns, whatever.

But this isn't framed as that club. This is framed totally as the "rawr, our fellow students are dressing too skanky" club. The girl doesn't say "I felt out of step with my peers' clothing choices and wanted to get students who made different choices together to support each other and help each other out," but rather "I was offended by what fellow students were wearing and wanted to start a shaming society."

[ADoyle90815]

Also I think it is an attention getting deal too. High school is bad enough without drawing bad attention to yourself. maybe the family had the martyr complex going on.

The persecution/martyr complex is a common thing among Mormons, so it wouldn't surprise me if the family has it. I do think it might be the parents' idea for both clubs, and since they did a great job brainwashing their teenagers to be good judgmental Mormons, they went with the idea. My guess about the brother is that if he's out of high school, once the missionary age was lowered, he put in his mission papers right away.

[fundiefun]

Fundie and Fundie lites are famous for putting their kids up to this sort of thing like Abby and Zac Sunderland home schooled fundie lites of course whose parents got the bright idea to let them sail solo around the globe after reading "Do Hard Things" by Brett and Alex Harris whose brother wrote the awful "I kissed dating goodbye" and are apart of the cult like covenant life church. Zac's trip was successful but his sister Abby's was not and had to be rescued. It's as if some parents have no issue putting their kids in harms way to prove a point.

http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2009/ ... adventure/

http://deadspin.com/5561995/abby-sunder ... -shitstorm

[RosyDaisy]

What next...turn public schools into Christian schools?

[Bbfamteam]

I'm going to bet that even if she sets up a shaming society the other girls are still going to dress however they want. She can claim persecution when her classmates start making fun of her club and it will win her brownie points for Jesus or Joseph Smith or whoever the hell she wants to impress.

[Coconut Flan]

I see that as a chance to get her name and picture in the paper just like her brother. It worked.

But in South Pasadena her chances of impacting how the student body dresses are slim to nil.

Good job parents in encouraging kids to do stunts for press time. ;)

[Wandering]

Someone needs to tell this girl that just because her sleeves maybe longer than another girl's-she's still the judgmental bitch.

[GeoBQn]

I can't imagine meetings lasting more than 5 minutes. What could they possibly talk about for 30-90 minutes?

[ILoveJellybeans]

Gossiping about how slutty the other girls are?

[ThisOlGirl]

If there had been a modesty club at my high school, the young, super immature me would have gone out of my way to be as immodest as possible, as would all my friends. Anything to help a fellow student get a persecution boner.

[lilwriter85]

I remember the story about the "no cussing" club brother. This girl is being annoying like her brother. She is probably exaggerating how her fellow classmates dress. When I was in high school (99-03), one girl complained to the school board about how some of the other girls dressed and when she described how they were dressed, her descriptions were never against the dress code. Sometime after that, one of the male school board members complained to the National Honor Society sponsor about some girls wearing spaghetti strap dresses to NHS ceremonies. Rumors went around that school board member's wife was becoming more religious and she kept trying to influence her husband.

Overall I still think Saige, her brother, and their parents exaggerate a lot of things. Not every person who cusses does excessively like Deb from Dexter. I'm a bit curious to read the parents' book. From Amazon

This award-winning book has been recognized with a "Family Approved" designation from The Dove Foundation, the Seal of Approval from the National Parenting Center, and the iParenitng Media "Excellent Products" Award. The authors have also been featured on numerous radio and television programs, including the Dr. Laura radio show and in Woman's Day magazine. However, the greatest measure of success is the impact this book is having on individuals and families, helping them cope with the negative influences in today's world and emerge with happier, "G-Rated" families.

About the Author

Brent and Phelecia Hatch are the parents of 7 children they were selected California Parents of the year 2001 by the American Family Coalition of So Ca. There life's experience's are what we use to raise healthy happy children

From the review section

1.0 out of 5 stars This book sucks, an unrealistic view on how to raise your kids. September 16, 2009

By Bob Hendricks

Format:Hardcover

First off, this book sucks. There is no true way to raise your family in an "X-Rated world", and if you look around you, the world isn't really all that X-Rated. Nobody cusses all the time, none of the billboards use naughty language and you might even spit out a swear word without you realizing. The best way to raise them is to teach them about the dangers befo 1.0 out of 5 stars silly waste of time, October 10, 2012

1.0 out of 5 stars A must buy..., November 2, 2010

By

schwartz - See all my reviews

This review is from: Raising a G-Rated Family in an X-Rated World (Hardcover)

...if you want your kid raised backwards and socially inept. If your goal as a parent is to make sure however many kids you have are unable to function in modern society, then this book is for you. Brought up on this book, your child will be kept safe in his bubble until you feel it's safe to let him out, or your passing. Under a careful, albeit overbearing eye; this bubble will shelter him/her from evils such as "swearing", "cursing"(theres a difference!) members of the opposite gender who haven't been preselected, "friends", "self-identification" and unwed-women over 30.

Assuming this is your goal, you have the chance your child will be selected by cult who has brainwashing down to a science. If you are so lucky, these people will welcome your now aged "child" warmly and he'll finally be accepted by a group outside of your (very)immediate family.

By

M "CultOfStrawberry" (I wait behind the wall, gnawing away at your reality) - See all my reviews

(TOP 500 REVIEWER)

This review is from: Raising a G-Rated Family in an X-Rated World (Hardcover)

How is this world X-rated? To say that this world is X-rated implies that there is porn visible everywhere and the only way to avoid it is to hide in a monastery or a cave. That seems to be what Mr. Hatch has in mind, and what he actually believes.

Personally, I'd rate America (can't comment on other countries as I haven't been to them) as a PG-13 world. Yes, there's some sex/suggestive material in a some ads and the like, but there is nothing so blatant out in the open so as to be X-rated. All X-rated stuff can be found on Internet pr0n sites, 'adult' bookstores, and the like. I've never seen X-rated stuff out in public, so I'm not sure what Mr. Hatch is going on about. But then, this is the man who also endorses the 'No Cussing Club', so it's clear that Mr. Hatch is far too sensitive. Of course, kids need to be shielded from certain things, but that takes commonsense and judging on a child's age and maturity. There's some decent tips in the book, but most of it is extremely conservative and silly.

G-rated family? Really? Honestly, if my entire life was G-rated, I'd be bored out of my mind. My parents (for the most part) did an good job of shielding me (as was appropriate for whatever my age was at that time) and they certainly weren't G-rated. This book is no better than the one written by his son. Want to raise your family right? USE COMMON SENSE. It's not that hard, folks. At least, I'd like to think so, since commonsense apparently isn't as common as it sounds.

After reading those reviews, I get the sense that the Hatch family isn't realistic about a lot of things and the daughter is just continuing their sanctimonious asshole attitudes.

[Cannelle]

What I want to know is why Saige (ugh) is spending so much time paying attention to what other people are wearing. If she were my kid I would encourage her to spend more time studying and doing extracurricular things and less time thinking about other people's clothes. I know teens tend to care very much about what other people are doing and saying and wearing, but IMO it's pretty shallow and silly, and I would want to help her grow out of that. I know my mom spent a lot of time telling me not to spend so much time worrying about other people's choice and to worry about my own instead when I was that age.

No kidding. I would wonder where I'd gone so very wrong as to raise such a judgmental bitch. Follow your own path and don't be so awful as to stand around, judging everyone as you do. Don't like the way other people dress? Then don't wear the same things and shut the hell up. It's not that hard.

[FloraDoraDolly]

Kids are under a lot of pressure to conform and the kinds of clothes that are in style now do show a lot of skin. Most of the teens I know attend schools that have a dress code, but maybe there isn't one at this girl's school? Maybe she and other kids at that school have been bullied for not dressing like everyone else and they simply want to support each other? I don't see anything wrong with it.

[Dysfundamental]

Kids are under a lot of pressure to conform and the kinds of clothes that are in style now do show a lot of skin. Most of the teens I know attend schools that have a dress code, but maybe there isn't one at this girl's school? Maybe she and other kids at that school have been bullied for not dressing like everyone else and they simply want to support each other? I don't see anything wrong with it.

She didn't mention anything like that in her interview--all she talked about was how offended she was by other students' choices.

A club to support kids who buck the norms sounds great. A shaming society, not so much.

[SpeakNow]

I teach at a high school in rural TN (it's only the second year it has been open), and at the start of the school year this year teachers and administrators met to develop a dress code (last year we had only 50 freshmen, so we didn't have a dress code that was set in stone). Our dress code is as follows:

1) No clothing that shows/reveals undergarments (bras, boxers, underwear etc.)

2) No baseball caps or brimmed hats in class.

3) Shorts and skirts must cover the top half of your thigh

To me, that sort of a dress code is reasonable as it echoes what students will have to wear in the professional world. Teenagers can choose to be modest of they would like. If someone is offended by "immodest dress" then they can look away. Problem solved.

[snarkykitty]

I think this girl doesn't quite grasp the point of modesty. It's not just about the clothes you wear. The following statements are from a graphic on their website (http://www.modestyclub.com/members-only/):

"It's best to flirt in a knee-length skirt" :lol:

"Shoulders and boulders are graciously covered" :o

"Vertical lines are warning signs" :roll:

"Clean and neat catches eyes on the street" :hand:

As Seth Myers would say... "REALLY?!?!"

[Bloo]

It doesn't need to be officially endorsed by the school. If this girl has self confidence, she can be modest without being an attention whore seeking validation.

[JesusFightClub]

Because it implies judgement of the other students, is what.

"Oh, I'm so much better and purer. Join my club if you are like me!"