Masturbation Is Addicting

[NerdyHil]

See, this sex-guilt, body shaming view just makes me want to shake someone. It's all about the way to attempt to turn off the sex drive, as in if you don't think about sex or masturbate then a person can just tamp down that part of human behavior. This is what leads to women and girls having no idea how their own body works. There has to be a correlation between this amount of shame and the sudden upswing in people who claim to be addicted to porn(mostly men, since women are too "pure" for that. Whatever.) in some super conservative groups. I've seen it just mess up marriages and straight up destroy one guy's life. And it's all based on the idea that being a good human doesn't involve having a sex drive, or normal masturbation. That guilt and shame is what seems to push people to hide what the do, and the need for more illicit stimulation. Honestly, it seems to be a big deal in Mormon culture right now, so I'm assuming it's an epidemic from this paragon of godly wisdom that is this article.

ETA: Cynicmom I think we're on the same page.

[Black Aliss]

I'm still confused - this is a parody site, yes?

I honestly cannot tell. I want it to be a parody site and yet there are some things on the site that aren't the least bit funny, and certainly nor further "out there" than the stinking lousewife or the PP. I think for now I'm going to go with parody because I can't stand the thought that they might be serious.

ETA: Wikipedia says'Christwire is a satirical website that publishes blog style articles that highlight excesses of American Christian conservatives along with obscure weather reportage, new vernacular, intense focus on various communities, and numerous parenting and lifestyle tips.Like similar satirical websites, Christwire's stories have often erroneously been taken at face value due to their perceived plausibility'"

Okay, then. Whew.

[Naga Viper]

This reminds me of sex addiction; that fake diagnosis you never see anyone but religious fundies diagnosed with.

...and David Duchovny.

[Gizmola]

I honestly cannot tell. I want it to be a parody site and yet there are some things on the site that aren't the least bit funny, and certainly nor further "out there" than the stinking lousewife or the PP. I think for now I'm going to go with parody because I can't stand the thought that they might be serious.

ETA: Wikipedia says'Christwire is a satirical website that publishes blog style articles that highlight excesses of American Christian conservatives along with obscure weather reportage, new vernacular, intense focus on various communities, and numerous parenting and lifestyle tips.Like similar satirical websites, Christwire's stories have often erroneously been taken at face value due to their perceived plausibility'"

Okay, then. Whew.

Thank the baby Jesus that site is satire. I was terribly scared there for a moment!!

[LostSamurai]

Funny thing is though...probaly some of the fundies, especially the Uber Fundies like the Maxwells and Duggars probaly do believe that shit too...

[ElphabaGalinda]

Thank the baby Jesus that site is satire. I was terribly scared there for a moment!!

I'm still scared at how plausible it is. I could imagine fundies really writing stuff like this. You know it's intelligent satire when it's plausible and looks a lot like the real things.

[doggie]

Do we need to wonder why fundies are so miserable people they are so sexually repressed it eats at them and makes them nasty people. I need a sign saying rub one out for Jesus. the duggers' life revolves around sexual repression and controlling masturbation that about a fucked up life.

[Deleted07]

Do we need to wonder why fundies are so miserable people they are so sexually repressed it eats at them and makes them nasty people. I need a sign saying rub one out for Jesus. the duggers' life revolves around sexual repression and controlling masturbation that about a fucked up life.

Or if you're Josh Duggar, you eat to make yourself feel better in your sexual frustration... :lol:

[MrsKay]

People would be so much happier if they just learned to rub one out without guilt. :roll: I'll admit, I've woken up in the midst of humping my mattress - only during the fertile phase of my cycle, but still. :oops: When I was pregnant, I also orgasmed in my sleep for the first time.

MrKay #1 and MrKay #2 were both virgins before I came along, and they were pretty damn grateful that I was a pro at jilling off. It makes all the difference between clumsy yet good sex, and the equivalent of Stevie Wonder making a club sandwich in someone else's kitchen.

My kids have been taught that masturbation is totally normal and healthy, but not something we talk about in everyday conversation, and not something that we do outside of the bedroom (or bathroom, if we're desperate, and then there's no hogging the damn shower head for hours at a time). I was raised to be taught that only boys masturbated. My dad and every male he knew seemed to keep girly mags in the bathroom; as a result, my brothers suffered terrible bowel issues. I was allowed to read Mom's Cosmo when Dad wasn't around, and managed to have my first big O when I was 12.

I'm pretty sure there has to be a link between kids who are "allowed" to masturbate and kids who are not, and the rate of behavior problems. Hell hath no fury like a hormonal boy with neverending blue balls or a hormonal girl with "pelvic congestion" (what we call the female version of blue balls). MrKay is also grateful for my attitude in the area, since I can't have sex when pregnant, and I suffer from a condition that makes intercourse very painful.

[desertvixen]

MrKay #1 and MrKay #2 were both virgins before I came along, and they were pretty damn grateful that I was a pro at jilling off. It makes all the difference between clumsy yet good sex, and the equivalent of Stevie Wonder making a club sandwich in someone else's kitchen.

Laughing quite a bit here.

[notsocommon]

A bit TMI, but am I the only one who has never really been into self pleasure? I mean it feels nice, but I just never got into it. I just don't do it. I much prefer having hubby around if I am going to have sexxy times. ;)

[LostSamurai]

Nah. Everyone's got their own quirks. :D

[over-thinker]

A bit TMI, but am I the only one who has never really been into self pleasure? I mean it feels nice, but I just never got into it. I just don't do it. I much prefer having hubby around if I am going to have sexxy times. ;)

I'm sure there are plenty of people like that.

[Naga Viper]

Nah. Everyone's got their own quirks. :D

Absolutely. I've run into more foot fetishists than I ever thought I would, and it's always like, "No, forget about those. No, seriously, get back up here." :lol:

[Minerva]

The usual argument is that by masturbating, women find OUT that yeah, in fact they have a clitoris and stimulating it is great, and they learn exactly what to do, and then Mr. Husband comes along with plain ol' penis-in-vagina only wham-bam-thank-you-maam without bothering to ask what she wants, and wifey is not satisfied with that because she has learned that in fact there are better things out there. :roll: If she never masturbated, she'd be satisfied and just accept crappy sex, because she wouldn't know better.

This goes along with the argument that clitoral orgasms are supposedly "immature," that as a woman you should work!!! work hard!!! to be able to be satisfied ONLY with penis-in-vagina touching, because that is the "mature" orgasm. This is despite the fact that plenty of women just can't orgasm that way (they want clitoral stimulation in addition to the penetrative sex going on, which non-hung-up couples generally have no problem working out and doing together).

Because when fundies say "sex", they mean missionary PIV that ends as soon as the husband gets off. Anything else is sinful.

Oh yeah, the mature orgasm. Oh Freud, when will your misogynistic bullcrap finally die? BTW clitoral orgasms feel better for me, I don't know about the rest of you. Maybe by "mature" they mean willing to settle for less.

[gardenvarietycitizen]

Oh yeah, the mature orgasm. Oh Freud, when will your misogynistic bullcrap finally die? BTW clitoral orgasms feel better for me, I don't know about the rest of you. Maybe by "mature" they mean willing to settle for less.

SRSLY.

For that matter, when will the entire idea that somehow there is one "proper" way to have sex and you wimmin better be training yourselves for it, because you OWE it to some man to be able to do precisely X, Y and Z as the "standard" requires, ever die? Quite frankly, fuck that noise (pun noted). If *I* am happy, with myself, and having enough sexual satisfaction, even if that be only with Mr. Hand or with various mutual playing pleasures that maybe don't end in PIV sex, it's OKAY. I don't have to always make someone else happy before myself, and I don't always have to live up to "proper" societal standards, y'know?

I am not "broken." I don't have to "work on it." I'm happy just the way I am, if you don't like it maybe YOU have the problem.

[notacleverpony]

And, this is the verse she uses to "prove" masturbation is a sin:

So, her readers have to accept that not masturbating is a command, which it is not (if it was a direct command she would have quoted THAT verse), that it is selfish gain (okay, maybe, but other people gain by me not being a cranky, horny bitch, so there is that), and that it is worthless (maybe by her definition, but not by mine.)

So, like with most circular logic, we have to accept what we've already been spoon fed by her in order to believe the alleged "proof".

I feel like someone should point out that you can make a case for just the opposite stance, using the same Big Book of Multiple Choice:

Ecclesiastes 9:10 - "Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest."

Translated from Fundie: If you want to to jack off, then jack off good, and FFS, invest in a decent vibrator. YOLOOOOO!

[AnnieC 305]

Ok, the next time we get a troll I suggest we skip the nail polish and go straight to our favorite vibe suggestions.

[MrsKay]

I like that idea.

[emmyfair]

I have nothing enlightening to add, I just wanted to say this thread is awesome.

[bananacat]

Ok, let's talk sex toys then. I have a dildo that is technically a vibrator, but I never use the vibration and never have fresh batteries in it. Anyone else think the vibration doesn't do much? I have found that it makes sex a lot better though. A lot of men feel anxious about not lasting long enough, not being big enough, not maintaining erection, etc. But if I have the dildo, all the pressure is off and they can just relax and enjoy everything. They know they'll be able to please me no matter what. At first I thought it would be so awkward or emasculating, but it actually has the opposite effect. I use that thing more during partnered sex than I ever do on my own. (On my own I usually just rub my clitoris because I've been doing it for nearly 20 years and I'm damn good at it). Has anyone else observed this same thing?

[notsocommon]

Bananacat,

I have a few toys that I use with hubby. I thought the same thing, too, that he would feel 'left out' or 'emasculated' but he thinks it is HAWT and is always wanting to go to Adam and Eve for more.

[Sinister Rouge]

Ok, let's talk sex toys then. I have a dildo that is technically a vibrator, but I never use the vibration and never have fresh batteries in it. Anyone else think the vibration doesn't do much? I have found that it makes sex a lot better though. A lot of men feel anxious about not lasting long enough, not being big enough, not maintaining erection, etc. But if I have the dildo, all the pressure is off and they can just relax and enjoy everything. They know they'll be able to please me no matter what. At first I thought it would be so awkward or emasculating, but it actually has the opposite effect. I use that thing more during partnered sex than I ever do on my own. (On my own I usually just rub my clitoris because I've been doing it for nearly 20 years and I'm damn good at it). Has anyone else observed this same thing?

I guess I'm the opposite of you, since my favorite vibe broke last week and I miss it like crazy. So, as for recommendations, if anyone is considering buying a vibe that has a cute little beaver climbing a totem pole, don't bother springing for the waterproof one because it's not fucking waterproof and the battery compartment will rust out in 6 months and then you'll have a sad lonely vagina like mine, and you'll be out an extra twenty bucks. LOL. Guess I'll be watching this thread for recommendations, haha. On a related note, I read a great post on The Pervocracy about this, and how some guys have their 'manhood' completely threatened by the use of sex toys during sex. Sooo, literally, different strokes for different folks, I guess ;)

[sparkles]

Seems like an appropriate place for this. Great song. Courtesy of the Buzzcocks...

Orgasm Addict

Well, you tried it just for once

found it all right for kicks

But now you found out that it's a habit that sticks

And you're an orgasm addict, you're an orgasm addict

Sneaking in the back door with dirty magazines

Now your mother wants to know what all those stains on your jeans

And you're an orgasm addict, you're an orgasm addict

Uh huh, uh huh, uh uh Uh huh, uh huh, uh uh

You get in a heat, you get in a sulk

But you still keep a beating your meat to pulp

And you're an orgasm addict, you're an orgasm addict

You're a kid Casanova, you're a no josep

It's a labor of love fucking yourself to death

Orgasm addict, you're an orgasm addict

Uh huh, uh huh, uh uh uh

You're makin' out with school kids

Winos and heads of state,

you even made it with the lady

Who puts the little plastic bobbins on the Christmas cakes

Butchers' assistants and bellhops

You've had them all here and there

Children of God and their joy strings

International women with no body hair

Ooh, so where they're askin' in an alley

And your voice ain't steady

Your sex mechanic's rough, you're more than ready

You're an orgasm addict, you're an orgasm addict

Johnny want fuckie always and all ways

He's got the energy, he will remain

He's an orgasm addict,

he's an orgasm addict

He's always at it,

he's always at it

And he's an orgasm addict

He's an orgasm addict

[MrsKay]

The dildo/vibrators don't do much for me; I have to get the vibrators that are just hard plastic. Yeah, I'm hardcore. I'm sadly lacking any vibrator of any kind right now, because mine died. But not before ToddlerKay found it and came out of my room holding it like an extension of his nose, making elephant sounds (it was a silver one).