Sandra Fluke Cartoon

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/0 ... f=politics

[bananacat]

Whoever made this cartoon is too stupid to understand the difference between insurance companies and the government. It's the insurance companies that have to cover medical care, not the government. I wish that the cartoonist's parents had use birth control so we would have one less idiot in this world.

[wtylcf]

Ah, what a great time to be a woman! While Rush Limbaugh wants access to Fluke's vagina (or at least porno images of her sexual encounters) so she earns the privilege of not getting pregnant, this witty cartoonist seems to imply that birth control coverage means the government in your vagina, even when the payment would be made through private insurance. Bitches are always wanting to not get pregnant and to have bodily autonomy; I mean, we women should know our place, right? Oh and let's also make Sandra Fluke look frumpy and hideous to better comply with hackneyed stereotypes of feminists, because it's impossible that a feminist could also be an attractive, feminine looking woman!

He might as well have scrawled, "It would be easier to make fun of Sandra Fluke if she were a fat slut, so let's pretend she is," and saved himself the effort of trying to be make a joke of it. (Not that there is anything wrong in the least with actually being a fat slut, as I could probably wear both those labels myself).

[doggie]

it is strange they think the government is paying the bc tab. but then again they think this is a christian nation and there is no separation of church and state. the oboma death panels and the whole birther movement.

[bananacat]

it is strange they think the government is paying the bc tab. but then again they think this is a christian nation and there is no separation of church and state. the oboma death panels and the whole birther movement.

I don't think it's so strange that they get big business confused with government. Many conservatives seem to want to live in a corporately where rich businesses rule everything. At the very least, they look the other way when lobbyist buy politicians and use their money to influence laws and regulations. I swear that some of these people worship "job creators" and would lay down their lives for their corporate overlords to benefit.

[Mama Mia]

They seem to think that Sandra Fluke is demanding FREE birth control, with 0 co-pays, and 0 cost for the insurance.

At least those are the rants I saw on fb. There was a picture of Sandra Fluke next to Sarah Palin... with a nasty comment about how Sandra Fluke is labeled "not-a-slut - even though has so much sex she can't pay for birth control" while Sarah Palin is labeled "slut- despite being married and faithful for 25 years" It is supposed to demonstrate how stupid liberals are.

The comments had many people insisting that the lie-beral media always called Sarah Palin a slut :roll: , which I believe is a complete lie. They also insisted that everyone who wanted birth control wanted it FREE and that the insurance companies were required to offer it with 0 co-pays and/or insurance payments and they should keep their legs closed or plan to pay for it or go to Planned Parenthood so they could get it for free :shock: Several other people tried to explain how stupid and wrong they were, with no success.

I saw it on my newsfeed when a friend commented on their friends link.

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Another cartoon but this one is racist

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http://angryblacklady.com/2012/03/06/wo ... now-folks/

I'm having difficulty getting the image to show up. You can click on the link to see it.

It is a cartoon of Obama in a pimp suit. Sitting beside him, is Sandra Fluke. In speech bubbles Obama says, "She just wants to have recreational sex and you pay for it. Not exactly a new concept"

[JesusFightClub]

Confused and disgusted.

In Scotland, any prescription is free. I do not take prescribed birth control but what would be wrong or slutty about doing that? To me it shows common sense and thinking ahead.

I also want to know how stupid Rush and the cartoonist are to really think using BC makes you automatically someone who is having sex with multiple men daily. If you do that, fair play, but taking the Pill has to be done every day whether you are planning on sex or not. Even I know that.

[lawfulevil]

I have Implanon, so in Rush-world I suppose I'm "taking a pill" every second! Imagine how many men I must be having sex with. Why, it's amazing I have the time to type what with having to swim through the sea of dicks between me and the computer. I don't have ROOM to stack children like cordwood, it's standing room only in the laundry room, the line goes all the way down the block and in and out of some other Pill user's houses. I have to have the drums of KY air-dropped in and I store it all in the bathtub! I'm really sore and chafed but far be it from me to think for myself, what with my weak ladybrain.

I had the implant installed by Planned Parenthood and stole all these poor men's tax dollars, now I have to pay the price. But... if anyone sees Rush in the line, let me know so I can dig the implant back out of my arm with a pair of nail clippers and flee into the night.

[Little Miss Alien]

I have Implanon, so in Rush-world I suppose I'm "taking a pill" every second! Imagine how many men I must be having sex with. Why, it's amazing I have the time to type what with having to swim through the sea of dicks between me and the computer. I don't have ROOM to stack children like cordwood, it's standing room only in the laundry room, the line goes all the way down the block and in and out of some other Pill user's houses. I have to have the drums of KY air-dropped in and I store it all in the bathtub! I'm really sore and chafed but far be it from me to think for myself, what with my weak ladybrain.

I had the implant installed by Planned Parenthood and stole all these poor men's tax dollars, now I have to pay the price. But... if anyone sees Rush in the line, let me know so I can dig the implant back out of my arm with a pair of nail clippers and flee into the night.

I have Nexplanon, implanted by the good ol' NHS, at zero cost to myself. I guess by Rush's standards I too am a slut. Doubly so, as I am an unwed single mother. I just wanted to make sure I had no more babies whilst I'm already almost single-handedly supporting the one I have at the moment (Daddy is a bit of a deadbeat, but is slowly stepping up, so credit to him for that).

Incidentally, I found out that Rush was if not the actual inventor of the term 'Feminazi' then at least has helped to push it into every day lexicon. Therefore, I have changed my avatar accordingly, in his (dis)honour. ;)

[Elle]

Ugh. Whether you have sex never or 10 times a day, the birth control pills cost the exact same amount. It's not based on how many times you have sex. I want to slap everyone saying she's "having so much sex she can't afford birth control."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/sandra-fluke-cartoon_n_1333404.html?ref=politics

Well, this seems disgusting and, might I say....premature?

[snarkbillie]

Ugh. Whether you have sex never or 10 times a day, the birth control pills cost the exact same amount. It's not based on how many times you have sex. I want to slap everyone saying she's "having so much sex she can't afford birth control."

Meanwhile I'm breathing SO MUCH I can't afford my inhaler. I'm like some kind of oxygen whore.

[Anise]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/sandra-fluke-cartoon_n_1333404.html?ref=politics

Oh dear, where to start. . .

How about with the fat-shaming. Sandra Fluke is not overweight, and it shouldn't matter if she is. However, in trying to portray her as undesirable (yet somehow still having sex?), the artist choice to show her as overweight, thus reinforcing the idea that fat is bad. And in case it's not clear that he intended to draw her as unattractive, the boobs look like no boobs I've ever seen. Also, her legs are hairy to show that she is a feminist/lesbian stereotype who is as unfeminine as she can be (yet somehow still has lots of sex with the opposite sex apparently).

Also, apparently, the artist's idea of a slut is someone who writes his/her phone number on restroom walls.

The artist also seems to be under the impression that insurance is free (if only), rather than something to be paid for by the recipient.

Also, the artist identifies Sandra Fluke with pro-choice even though that had nothing to do with her testimony. And it seems that the main controversy is over abortion, not birth control because the author specifically says "stay out of my uterus" when really most forms of birthcontrol never make it into the uterus. But perhaps, he's just not strong on his female anatomy. That's what comes of poor sex-ed.

[27randomscribbles]

They really are idiots for not being able to differentiate between the government and insurance companies...but then again, some also seem to think you have to take a pill every time you have sex. :/

For the record, though, I do wish bc was free or subsidized. I remember getting pills in Germany and I paid like EUR40 for six months worth. That's pretty good. I think the pharmacist said it would have been free/cheaper if I were under 18 but I was just over that limit at the time (this was about 7 years ago I think and it might have changed since). Actually I wish all healthcare was subsidized, but I'm also an ebil socialist who believes in taxpayer funded healthcare. Meh. I like being ebil.

[Soldier of the One]

Oh dear, where to start. . .

How about with the fat-shaming. Sandra Fluke is not overweight, and it shouldn't matter if she is. However, in trying to portray her as undesirable (yet somehow still having sex?), the artist choice to show her as overweight, thus reinforcing the idea that fat is bad. And in case it's not clear that he intended to draw her as unattractive, the boobs look like no boobs I've ever seen. Also, her legs are hairy to show that she is a feminist/lesbian stereotype who is as unfeminine as she can be (yet somehow still has lots of sex with the opposite sex apparently).

Also, apparently, the artist's idea of a slut is someone who writes his/her phone number on restroom walls.

The artist also seems to be under the impression that insurance is free (if only), rather than something to be paid for by the recipient.

Also, the artist identifies Sandra Fluke with pro-choice even though that had nothing to do with her testimony. And it seems that the main controversy is over abortion, not birth control because the author specifically says "stay out of my uterus" when really most forms of birthcontrol never make it into the uterus. But perhaps, he's just not strong on his female anatomy. That's what comes of poor sex-ed.

This. The whole damn cartoon makes me wanna facepalm. There's the relentless 'Feminists are ugly, fat lesbos' meme going on here. There's so much deconstruction to do here, I just don't know where to start.

Republicans: they want a government so small it fits through the keyhole of your bedroom.

[jericho]

They really are idiots for not being able to differentiate between the government and insurance companies...but then again, some also seem to think you have to take a pill every time you have sex. :/

It's the government telling the insurance company to offer a product.

So first Obama forces all hospitals to offer free BC. When there is a backlash, Obama then changes it to forcing the insurance company to provide free BC. How is that any better? It's still the government telling the insurance company to offer a product. This should be unconstitutional.

[Hane]

It's the government telling the insurance company to offer a product.

So first Obama forces all hospitals to offer free BC. When there is a backlash, Obama then changes it to forcing the insurance company to provide free BC. How is that any better? It's still the government telling the insurance company to offer a product. This should be unconstitutional.

Tell me, dear, how do you feel about all insurance companies' coverage of Viagra, whether a man is married or not? I don't hear of any Catholic institutions denying unmarried men prescription coverage of boner-pills.

[Shina]

It's the government telling the insurance company to offer a product.

So first Obama forces all hospitals to offer free BC. When there is a backlash, Obama then changes it to forcing the insurance company to provide free BC. How is that any better? It's still the government telling the insurance company to offer a product. This should be unconstitutional.

"Troll! Troll in the dungeon! Thought you ought to know...."

Also, lawfulevil, you are fucking hilarious. My roomies are now wondering why that crazy Shina is laughing at her laptop again.

[jericho]

First of all, Viagra is a for a medical condition. BC is USUALLY not for a medical condition. Second, I've not heard about the government forcing insurance companies to offer Viagra.

[Hane]

First of all, Viagra is a for a medical condition. BC is USUALLY not for a medical condition. Second, I've not heard about the government forcing insurance companies to offer Viagra.

Heh, I dunno--I'd say that keeping one's uterus in its pristine, non-pregnant state does qualify as a medical need. And why would you say that Viagra is for a medical condition? Men can live long and healthy lives without having erections.

Catholic organizations seem to be upholding their own version of sexual/reproductive morality by policing what goes on inside women's reproductive systems. The Catholic Church condemns fornication as immoral, so one would think they'd refuse to cover an unmarried man's Viagra under his prescription plan.

L8R, trollikins.

[Elle]

It's the government telling the insurance company to offer a product.

So first Obama forces all hospitals to offer free BC. When there is a backlash, Obama then changes it to forcing the insurance company to provide free BC. How is that any better? It's still the government telling the insurance company to offer a product. This should be unconstitutional.

Except it's not free. Everyone's going to be forced to buy insurance, whether or not they can afford it. So we're all going to be paying for it through premiums. The government is trying to ensure that we can access what we're all going to be forced to pay for to keep the premiums from being viewed as free money for the insurance companies to pocket. The government is trying to establish the baseline for what we can expect since we're going to be forced to buy it.

[Elle]

Meanwhile I'm breathing SO MUCH I can't afford my inhaler. I'm like some kind of oxygen whore.

JUST BREATHE LESS, YOU OXYGEN WHORE! If I'm paying for you to breathe, I WANT TO SEE VIDEO! :naughty:

[Elle]

Tell me, dear, how do you feel about all insurance companies' coverage of Viagra, whether a man is married or not? I don't hear of any Catholic institutions denying unmarried men prescription coverage of boner-pills.

First of all, Viagra is a for a medical condition. BC is USUALLY not for a medical condition. Second, I've not heard about the government forcing insurance companies to offer Viagra.

Jericho, the government doesn't have to because most insurance companies already cover Viagra. It's not for any medical condition that can cause harm to someone. Men can live long and healthy lives WITHOUT erections. Do you think insurance companies should have to cover as many in vitro rounds as it takes for infertile couples to get pregnant? Since infertility is a medical condition? Yes, erectile dysfunction is a medical condition, but the problem is only one is covered and not the other. And neither are needed to preserve lives. Birth control has been taken by millions of women for medically-NEEDED reasons in addition to as a preventative for pregnancy. Other forms of preventative care, from check-ups to even vaccines are usually covered for very little or even free. Why is this preventative medication the one that's off limits? Especially since it has saved lives, why is this preventative medication under fire while Viagra, which does not save lives, is covered? And if Viagra is covered, why aren't fertility treatments covered?

(FTR, I support all of it being covered. It's hard to make an argument for one being allowed but not all, and I chose fertility treatments for this discussion because of how many people are against any of it being covered while not really caring about Viagra, or even while arguing in favor of Viagra.)

[jericho]

Jericho, the government doesn't have to because most insurance companies already cover Viagra. It's not for any medical condition that can cause harm to someone. Men can live long and healthy lives WITHOUT erections. Do you think insurance companies should have to cover as many in vitro rounds as it takes for infertile couples to get pregnant? Since infertility is a medical condition? Yes, erectile dysfunction is a medical condition, but the problem is only one is covered and not the other. And neither are needed to preserve lives. Birth control has been taken by millions of women for medically-NEEDED reasons in addition to as a preventative for pregnancy. Other forms of preventative care, from check-ups to even vaccines are usually covered for very little or even free. Why is this preventative medication the one that's off limits? Especially since it has saved lives, why is this preventative medication under fire while Viagra, which does not save lives, is covered? And if Viagra is covered, why aren't fertility treatments covered?

(FTR, I support all of it being covered. It's hard to make an argument for one being allowed but not all, and I chose fertility treatments for this discussion because of how many people are against any of it being covered while not really caring about Viagra, or even while arguing in favor of Viagra.)

"MOST" insurance companies provide Viagra, but its not mandatory, as it should be. No, I don't think insurance should have to cover in vitro rounds, viagra, or BC or any other drug, nor should a hospital, or the government. That's why free market health care is good and government mandated health care is a problem. Let customers pick what company provides the best service and their basic needs. If you don't like it that your company doesn't provide BC, then go to a company that does and vice versa. You call non-medical reasons for BC "preventative" health. Do you not see a difference in preventing cancer and preventing a pregnancy? Pregnancy is not a fatal condition normally, and there are other ways to prevent it.