Controversial Opinions?

[misslady]

I believe in universal healthcare. And in paid parental leave that lasts more than 6 weeks. Sadly I live where I have neither. (Well, I have healthcare, through my work. I just wish we all could have it. I've seen too many friends and family suffer without.)

[ADoyle90815]

I also believe in universal health care, and a maternity leave that's longer than the few weeks most moms have. The other thing is that I think pedophiles should be castrated after their first offense, even if they're a teenager when caught. I think people are born gay, and that they should be able to marry the person they love.

[Burris]

Oh, I have one that should be controversial around here: I believe our prisons should be safe. There are always going to be gangs and whatnot in the prisons, and that has to be managed but just pragmatically, is not going to be eliminated. But prisoners shouldn't have to live in fear of physical or sexual abuse from other inmates or guards -- no matter what their crimes.

I agree wholeheartedly with you, for both ethical and utilitarian reasons. Where the latter is concerned, cruel guards not only make beasts of their charges, but also of themselves.

(Aside: I also think declawing should be illegal, and that 'human' rights should be extended to the great apes.)

[Koala]

I believe spanking should be illegal.

[Gizmola]

These have gotten me in hot water:

Pro-choice

Pro-Gay marriage

legalize pot

legalize prostitution

free speech - yes, even for WBC (I agree with the exception for child porn)

pro-public schools

taxes: one flat rate, no loopholes OR a national sales tax

anti-babies having their ears pierced

anti-video games for children

pro-books - any book - for children

free balanced lunches in all schools

free food stamps, WIC and housing subsidy when necessary BUT also free enrollment in job training, education & childcare at the same time

pro-sex ed in school - real sex ed - teach them about masturbation and have condems on the desk of every teacher - no questions asked

health insurance for everyone and health insurance MUST cover the FULL COST of birth control - all options of birth control

no racial profiling

the U.S. should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER torture ANYONE. I don't care if a monster who was the conglomerated reincarnation of Hitler & bin Laden came back and we could stop the beast through torture. NEVER

Anti-death penalty no matter what

rehabilitation programs in prisons

more drug rehab than jail/prison sentences

never, ever wear white shoes after Labor Day

Never buy a wedding gift unless it's listed on the registry

Never enclose the registry with a wedding invitation or shower invitation

Never play the following at a wedding reception: Chicken Dance, Electric Slide, Wind Beneath my Wings or anything by Celine Dion

a lady never smokes on the street (I still can't manage to do this without feeling like a trollop)

[ladypuglover]

@Gizmola

O/T but my most favorite wedding gift was an antique relish dish that my grandparents gave us. It was given to them as an antique on their wedding day 60 plus years before and it was made circa 1850. I still use it every holiday and it brings me so much joy even if it wasn't on my list of wants. But I so get that some people wouldn't have been very happy getting an ancient relish dish. Sticking to the registry is the best plan unless you know you can ask if they want said item or it was promised to them since the bride's birth. Like the silver I also got from my grandparents who picked it out the week I was born. ;) They got a little ahead with wedding presents for their grandchildren in case they weren't around later.

[Gizmola]

ladypuglover, that sounds lovely. When I got into the debate on my controversial stand it was in regards to people who will walk into a department store, get a registry, look at it and then wrinkle their nose and say, "But I want them to have something especially from me!" Then they will turn around and get a $15 generic candy dish. I used to work in bridal registry and that steamed me up. Since I knew I'd be the poor schmuck having to enter the return when the bride brought the stupid candy dish back. When it comes to family heirlooms - that's different, of course.

Oh...the most controversial opinion I have? I hate chocolate. Hate it. Think that it smells disgusting, tastes horrible and is just the worst food on earth. I've never eaten a candy bar, a brownie, chocolate ice cream, an Oreo, eclair or Hershey's bar. I have never liked it and have had only two pieces of supposedly good chocolate once and it just made me gag. I think, for a woman, that's the most controversial opinion ever. :violin:

[Koala]

I agree with piercing a baby/toddlers ears Gizmola. I've never liked that.

[ladypuglover]

ladypuglover, that sounds lovely. When I got into the debate on my controversial stand it was in regards to people who will walk into a department store, get a registry, look at it and then wrinkle their nose and say, "But I want them to have something especially from me!" Then they will turn around and get a $15 generic candy dish. I used to work in bridal registry and that steamed me up. Since I knew I'd be the poor schmuck having to enter the return when the bride brought the stupid candy dish back. When it comes to family heirlooms - that's different, of course.

Oh...the most controversial opinion I have? I hate chocolate. Hate it. Think that it smells disgusting, tastes horrible and is just the worst food on earth. I've never eaten a candy bar, a brownie, chocolate ice cream, an Oreo, eclair or Hershey's bar. I have never liked it and have had only two pieces of supposedly good chocolate once and it just made me gag. I think, for a woman, that's the most controversial opinion ever. :violin:

Not likeing Chocolate? :shock: Well! Then that leaves more for me. Really though you might be allergic to it and that is your body's way of protecting itself. I'm not fond of oreos either but I do love a good truffle.

As for the bridal gifts, unless you know that she collects milk glass and really wants more save the antiques for another time. Also even if she does, does the groom want more milk glass?

[Crackedeggs]

I am against piercing a babys or toddlers ears as well.

Now, on that castrating pedo's thing.... One caveat I have before I would agree with that is a definition of a pedo as being ...... what? In our state, if an 18 yo gets a 16 yo pregnant, he's on the sex offender list. I think that is total bullshit, frankly. My girl is 15 and has had 2 swains that turned 18 during their relationship. Now, why should the boy go to jail on say November 7th, but not November 6th? It's just stupid. Same goes if an 18 yo girl has sex with a younger male ( though that doesn't happen as often, I would bet). Last night, an 18 year old sent a 16 year old girl staying over here a pic of his junk. While I was pretty stunned this particular boy did this, come on, they are 2 years apart - is that worth a felony charge? Really?

[Jessica]

I'll share one of my controversial opinions... I think leashes for toddlers are a wonderful thing (note: toddlers, not 5 year olds!) and if anyone wants to tell me I'm treating my son like a dog by putting him in one ocassionally, fine, but at least he's not running into traffic and getting killed. So there, NYEAH.

[ladypuglover]

I'll share one of my controversial opinions... I think leashes for toddlers are a wonderful thing (note: toddlers, not 5 year olds!) and if anyone wants to tell me I'm treating my son like a dog by putting him in one ocassionally, fine, but at least he's not running into traffic and getting killed. So there, NYEAH.

My middle son would have either had been road kill or had both arms ripped out on a daily basis if not for the chest harness leash we used. When wear that, he was a doll baby who could do no wrong, but take it off and he became suicidal. Go ahead and make fun of me for treating my baby like a dog, he acted worse and is thankfully still alive at 17 due to that leash.

[Jessica]

That's how my boy is! He will go limp until he falls on the floor (if I hold his hand) and then lay there screaming bloody murder until he's ready to stop. If I roar at him at the top of my lungs as he's running towards traffic (which he does every time we leave the house because we live on the corner of a busy street and sometimes I'm carrying a few things and can't hold a wiggly little man too) he cracks up and thinks it's a fun game. Oy!!!

[O Latin]

Gizmola, my mom was totally and completely anti-video games. When I was growing up everybody and their little brother had a Nintendo, a Playstation, a Gamecube, a Gameboy, sometimes all of the above and my mom would absolutely not let any of it in her house. We did have computer games, but only educational ones*, that we played on our Windows 95. I think I was in high school before we were allowed to buy non-educational computer games. When I was a freshman in college they bought a Wii for Christmas, the justification for that being that we could use it to exercise (which, actually, we did). Last year my mom finally caved and let my brother and sister buy an Xbox with their own money and they just bought one of those motion-heat-sensor-smarter-than-I-am thingys that goes with the Xbox. Sigh. Youngest kids totally get away with everything.

*Just want to say I'm not knocking the educational games at all. I have many fond memories of entire weekends spent trying to find Carmen Sandiego.

To add to the controversial opinions list, I think the speed limit should be at least 30 mph on all roads at all times and anyone driving slower than that gets a ticket, no exceptions, ever (except MAYBE if there is say, six inches of snow on the ground). I also think bicycles should not be allowed in the street unless there is a designated bike lane.

[clibbyjo]

ladypuglover, that sounds lovely. When I got into the debate on my controversial stand it was in regards to people who will walk into a department store, get a registry, look at it and then wrinkle their nose and say, "But I want them to have something especially from me!" Then they will turn around and get a $15 generic candy dish. I used to work in bridal registry and that steamed me up. Since I knew I'd be the poor schmuck having to enter the return when the bride brought the stupid candy dish back. When it comes to family heirlooms - that's different, of course.

Oh...the most controversial opinion I have? I hate chocolate. Hate it. Think that it smells disgusting, tastes horrible and is just the worst food on earth. I've never eaten a candy bar, a brownie, chocolate ice cream, an Oreo, eclair or Hershey's bar. I have never liked it and have had only two pieces of supposedly good chocolate once and it just made me gag. I think, for a woman, that's the most controversial opinion ever. :violin:

OMG, NOT liking chocolate? This is serious!!!!! I couldn;t survive without it!

[ladypuglover]

Ok, here is one that gets me into trouble in real life.

If you can remember voting for Hoover then for the love of all that is holy don't wear a micro mini with a top so low that it shows your belly button. I never want to see that much wrinkled hairy skin near my food ever again. Nothing wrong with being a sexy great grandma but please don't wear your great granddaughter's clothes to the store... especially when she out grew them 40 years ago. :hand:

Flame away.

[LynnKaboom]

I'll add one-

I strongly dislike Taylor Swift. Her voice is incredibly annoying.

[Boogalou]

Never play the following at a wedding reception: Chicken Dance, Electric Slide, Wind Beneath my Wings or anything by Celine Dion

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I LOVE the chicken dance so much. I guess my controversial opinion is that the Chicken Dance should be played at every single wedding reception, no exceptions :)

[Austin]

These have gotten me in hot water:

Pro-choice

Pro-Gay marriage

legalize pot

legalize prostitution

free speech - yes, even for WBC (I agree with the exception for child porn)

pro-public schools

taxes: one flat rate, no loopholes OR a national sales tax

anti-babies having their ears pierced

anti-video games for children

pro-books - any book - for children

free balanced lunches in all schools

free food stamps, WIC and housing subsidy when necessary BUT also free enrollment in job training, education & childcare at the same time

pro-sex ed in school - real sex ed - teach them about masturbation and have condems on the desk of every teacher - no questions asked

health insurance for everyone and health insurance MUST cover the FULL COST of birth control - all options of birth control

no racial profiling

the U.S. should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER torture ANYONE. I don't care if a monster who was the conglomerated reincarnation of Hitler & bin Laden came back and we could stop the beast through torture. NEVER

Anti-death penalty no matter what

rehabilitation programs in prisons

more drug rehab than jail/prison sentences

never, ever wear white shoes after Labor Day

Never buy a wedding gift unless it's listed on the registry

Never enclose the registry with a wedding invitation or shower invitation

Never play the following at a wedding reception: Chicken Dance, Electric Slide, Wind Beneath my Wings or anything by Celine Dion

a lady never smokes on the street (I still can't manage to do this without feeling like a trollop)

I love your list and agree with every single thing on it - lol.

I would just like to add one right off the top of my head: Never wear your pajamas to the supermarket.

[SquirrelySquirrel]

Ooh, I have loads of 'em, so I'll limit it to a few!

--I am very liberal with many socialist leanings, especially wrt healthcare.

--I think spanking should be illegal.

--I am very supportive of breastfeeding. Women should never be hassled or judged for feeding their baby wherever they want, and people who go on about nursing a baby past a certain point (I've heard them all: when baby is one, when baby has teeth, when baby can talk, when baby can walk, etc, etc, etc (none of which make any sense at all)) being inappropriate, horrible, sick, perverted, and/or wrong need to shut.the.fuck.up. I'm not violent at all, but I really want to punch the mouth of anyone who spews such ignorance.

--I am very much against circumcision and pierced ears on babies.

--I think guns should be outlawed and drugs decriminalized. And ditto to everyone who wants this stupid "war on drugs" to END already! Oh, and I also don't think people should have to pass a drug test for public assistance. People look at me like I have 2 heads when I express that opinion.

[Sunnichick31]

--I am very supportive of breastfeeding. Women should never be hassled or judged for feeding their baby wherever they want, and people who go on about nursing a baby past a certain point (I've heard them all: when baby is one, when baby has teeth, when baby can talk, when baby can walk, etc, etc, etc (none of which make any sense at all)) being inappropriate, horrible, sick, perverted, and/or wrong need to shut.the.fuck.up. I'm not violent at all, but I really want to punch the mouth of anyone who spews such ignorance.

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I agree. If people don't want to see a woman breastfeeding, then they can look away! I mean really, it's kind of rediculous that women are expected to either cover up or go into a different room. You wouldn't eat with a blanket over your head, so why make your baby (unless of course you yourself don't want to flash the world). You wouldn't eat in a bathroom so why make your baby do it? Breastfeeding is natural and should be treated as such.

[masagoroll]

I believe a woman should be able to abort a pregnancy at any time up to birth (and I get a bit Singeresque shaky about whether afterwards would be OK too. Leaning towards yes.)

What do you mean "afterward"?

ETA: My own controversial opinions:

I don't even know what my own opinions are because I was raised rather fundie and now I'm rather liberal and I'm just mixed up.

Here's one that would be controversial to some--I think that kids should be able to have whatever gender presentation they want as soon as they can express preferences. I don't want to ever encourage my kids towards "girl" or "boy" things. Society will do that for me, I know, but I want to do my best to teach them that boys and girls can both do whatever they want and there is no such thing as "girl" and "boy" things.

You wouldn't think that is so controversial, but it is. I've had people getting upset at their boys dressing up in dresses at my preschool. I've seen a 2-year-old girl who is obsessed with cars, but her mom has never even thought to buy her a toy car because she's a girl and all her stuff is princess stuff.

[ChickeyMonkey]

Yeah, me too. I'm open about it too, which means I get a lot of "COMMUNIST!" yelled at me.

Do you correct them when they yell that at you? ;)

I agree with you, but then I wonder about criminals and then I'm on the fence. But then, I think child molesters should be treated as another poster said: let loose in the prison with the other inmates while the guards turn their backs, close their eyes, and become selectively deaf.

DirtyHippyGirl, what do you mean when you said, "Go full on K.D. Lang"? I don't understand the reference. Can you (or someone else?) please explain?

[masagoroll]

Oh, here's one relevant to my life:

I think everyone in Texas should learn to speak some Spanish. If you live here and can't speak any, I have no sympathy for you!

A few more:

I don't think people should ever get cats and dogs from anywhere except a shelter or rescue. If you actually care about pets, get one whose life may be in danger!

I think that Hole was better than Nirvana. :D

[jaelh]

I am against piercing a babys or toddlers ears as well.

Now, on that castrating pedo's thing.... One caveat I have before I would agree with that is a definition of a pedo as being ...... what? In our state, if an 18 yo gets a 16 yo pregnant, he's on the sex offender list. I think that is total bullshit, frankly. My girl is 15 and has had 2 swains that turned 18 during their relationship. Now, why should the boy go to jail on say November 7th, but not November 6th? It's just stupid. Same goes if an 18 yo girl has sex with a younger male ( though that doesn't happen as often, I would bet). Last night, an 18 year old sent a 16 year old girl staying over here a pic of his junk. While I was pretty stunned this particular boy did this, come on, they are 2 years apart - is that worth a felony charge? Really?

that's statutory rape. very diff.

pedophiles are attracted to the pre-pubescent.