Lawson and Tiffany 8: Lawson Still Doesn't Work

[noseybutt]

43 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I figured this would happen. It happens to other fundie women as well. Not just Tiffany. Remember when Ashley was dating Nathan? I think a big part of the break up was Ashley not wanting to leave NYC. 

Not just fundie women, this is a common relationship struggle. Although the dynamic is probably different with fundie wives perhaps more quick to acquiesce or feeling the need to at least give it try.

[JermajestyDuggar]

1 hour ago, noseybutt said:

Not just fundie women, this is a common relationship struggle. Although the dynamic is probably different with fundie wives perhaps more quick to acquiesce or feeling the need to at least give it try.

The problem is that fundies are hard to come by. So moving right after marriage is more common in fundie relationships. Look at all the fundies who have moved after or right before marriage only in the Bates family. Chad, Bobby, Michaela, Katie, Kelton, Esther, and Tiffany. Its like that in the Duggar, Maxwell, and Bontrager families as well. Esther Staddon had to move to Canada. Elizabeth Frazer had to move to America. I didn’t have to move when I got married. We already lived together. Fundies don’t live together before marriage and one usually moves pretty far right after marriage. It puts a strain on the first year of marriage on top of the very common pregnancy to follow. It’s unnecessarily hard.

[noseybutt]

2 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

The problem is that fundies are hard to come by. So moving right after marriage is more common in fundie relationships. Look at all the fundies who have moved after or right before marriage only in the Bates family. Chad, Bobby, Michaela, Katie, Kelton, Esther, and Tiffany. Its like that in the Duggar, Maxwell, and Bontrager families as well. Esther Staddon had to move to Canada. Elizabeth Frazer had to move to America. I didn’t have to move when I got married. We already lived together. Fundies don’t live together before marriage and one usually moves pretty far right after marriage. It puts a strain on the first year of marriage on top of the very common pregnancy to follow. It’s unnecessarily hard.

I was in grad school when I married and there was a lot of angst in my social circle with couples needing to make hard decisions about where to live because training programs where often not in the same city or state. Many people are in their late 20’s or 30’s before completing all the training necessary in licensed professions, and training may involve multiple moves. Long distance relationships were common.

But my experience is also skewed and probably not typical.

[Guanabana]

3 hours ago, postscript said:

I also think Tiffany will eventually try to resurrect her acting career, probably after she’s had a child or two. 

During their trip from CA to TN Tiffany was studying lines for an audition. Later, Lawson had a story about making Hamburger Helper for dinner (and begging his fans for help) because Tiffany was auditioning. That was at their home. 

[QuiverFullofBooks]

3 hours ago, noseybutt said:

I was in grad school when I married and there was a lot of angst in my social circle with couples needing to make hard decisions about where to live because training programs where often not in the same city or state. Many people are in their late 20’s or 30’s before completing all the training necessary in licensed professions, and training may involve multiple moves. Long distance relationships were common.

But my experience is also skewed and probably not typical.

A college classmate told me that he and his fiancée had identified a few cities where there were universities that had grad school programs in both of their subjects, and they were both applying to every relevant program in those cities so that they would have options. 

[Keys]

4 hours ago, noseybutt said:

I was in grad school when I married and there was a lot of angst in my social circle with couples needing to make hard decisions about where to live because training programs where often not in the same city or state. Many people are in their late 20’s or 30’s before completing all the training necessary in licensed professions, and training may involve multiple moves. Long distance relationships were common.

But my experience is also skewed and probably not typical.

Yes, same here (professional school). Husband and I did 2 years of long-distance, one before and one after we were married. Then had to be very strategic about planning for post-degree training and jobs because of what you mentioned as well. 

[PurpleCats]

Honestly, I think Lawson would love California.  He’d even get lots of things to complain about with the “socialists ruining his state” and could be a martyr.

Honestly, I think Lawson would love California.  He’d even get lots of things to complain about with the “socialists ruining his state” and could be a martyr.

[Jackie3]

On 9/13/2022 at 9:15 AM, JDuggs said:

I know people disagree with me, but the thought that Tiffany’s presence is needed in California for her rental properties is laughable to me. Her parents and brother are all involved in real estate. Whatever needs to be done can be handled by them. I believe this is a very passive moneymaker for Tiffany. I think that her parents invested her money based on their decisions with her ultimate  consent.

Also, what is she going to do? She's not going back to fix a plumbing problem or replace some windows. She can call plumbers or speak to tenants from her laptop. Tiffany's presence in California would rarely be necessary.

[marmalade]

Tiff has unfollowed all of her in-laws. She now only follows 4 accounts, and two of those are Lawson's dog and horse. 

[Pecansforeveryone]

Interesting. With regular people I wouldn't necessarily think anything of it but with these two I am curious. 

[marmalade]

Lawson still follows everyone. It's very odd.

[NonSOTDRT Teacher]

Erin also did a purge of who she follows and only follows one account, her business page. What’s going on in Bates Land???

[Idlewild]

It looks like they are buying a puppy. I assume this is to cash in on YouTube videos and the dog will have its own SM account. The dog will probably earn more than Lawson.

[JermajestyDuggar]

6 hours ago, Idlewild said:

It looks like they are buying a puppy. I assume this is to cash in on YouTube videos and the dog will have its own SM account. The dog will probably earn more than Lawson.

I agree. They all want clicks. Lawson has a dog already. We hardly ever see it. Probably because it’s not cute. 

[neuroticcat]

18 hours ago, marmalade said:

Tiff has unfollowed all of her in-laws. She now only follows 4 accounts, and two of those are Lawson's dog and horse. 

I could see people doing this as a privacy maneuver and a switch to a public-only account (with a separate one for private interaction). If you only use instagram to sell things/work your brand, do you really need to follow anyone?

[JermajestyDuggar]

1 hour ago, neuroticcat said:

I could see people doing this as a privacy maneuver and a switch to a public-only account (with a separate one for private interaction). If you only use instagram to sell things/work your brand, do you really need to follow anyone?

That could be. Especially if you want to keep private WHO you follow. So if you want to unfollow a sister on your private account, the public won’t ever know. 

[Idlewild]

Tiffany was also involved in that conference earlier in the year- she may want an account to express her political views without attracting too much pushback.

[JDuggs]

Lawson flew back to TN for his big BSB concert while Tiff stayed back in Cali. She explained that a family friend, seemed like an older church friend, passed away and she wanted to stay for the funeral. She mentioned that she wasn’t baptized until she was 18 years old. I don’t think I’ve heard Tiff’s testimony yet.

[HereticHick]

On 9/20/2022 at 8:24 AM, JermajestyDuggar said:

I agree. They all want clicks. Lawson has a dog already. We hardly ever see it. Probably because it’s not cute. 

I assume that Lawson's dog (and horse) has stayed in Rocky Top.  And yes, the German Shepard doesn't fit into Tiffany's cutsie Instagram asthetic. 

[anjulibai]

How is that dog not cute?

[GuineaPigCourtship]

The dog is cute but if he isn't trained he will not make good Instagram fodder. Untrained German shepherds can be wild and scary and may not pose well for photos.

[marmalade]

13 hours ago, HereticHick said:

I assume that Lawson's dog (and horse) has stayed in Rocky Top.  And yes, the German Shepard doesn't fit into Tiffany's cutsie Instagram asthetic. 

Tiffy follows Lawson's dog on Instagram. One of the four accounts she follows. Also included is the horse. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

I would say German shepherds are more majestic or handsome. But not cute. I guess when they are puppies they are very cute. But his dog is an adult dog who doesn’t seem to be trained. So I don’t think he’s cute enough for instagram. He is not like Katie or Carlin’s dog.

Edited September 27, 2022 by JermajestyDuggar

[Thorns]

On 9/13/2022 at 4:51 PM, TaraJade7 said:

I've never seen anyone travel as much as this family does, especially Lawson & Tiffany.  Of course she is super homesick & may just be thinking, "OMG what have I done?"  I'm not trying to be a pessimist here, just my take on what may be going on.  They just got married around 4 months ago.  They've been to Greece for 10 days (I think it was for that period of time), Ohio (for that Alive festival), Miami, road trip though the mid west with many stops, and now back to California!  Folks, IMO that's a lot of travelling in 120 days time!  What in the world are these two going to do if/when a baby comes along?  I have really been hoping that Tiffany could become more acclimated  to TN & also for Katie in NJ.  TN and NJ have plenty of differences, but I'd think coming to the hills of TN from California or vice versa would be an even bigger adjustment.  I live in the deep south and would play hell trying to adjust just about anywhere else.  I don't think they think these things completely through.  I'm sure they believe their love is real, I'm not questioning that (or well maybe I am when I'm snarking) I just think that they are sometimes so hyper focused on the many details of the event planning & of course the IG worthiness of the endless pics that maybe their judgment gets somewhat clouded.  Best of wishes to all of the newlyweds and sorry for the long rant!

 

a little bit clouded.  

I'm Scandinavian, and this is fascinating to me. I get the gist and general idea of what you are saying (I would probably be a fish on land in the deep south), but I would love a longish rant on exactly what would make it hard for you! "American culture" is something I have been exposed to my entire life in so many ways, but hearing about how different it can actually be is one of the major reasons I lurk here

[anjulibai]

1 hour ago, Thorns said:

I'm Scandinavian, and this is fascinating to me. I get the gist and general idea of what you are saying (I would probably be a fish on land in the deep south), but I would love a longish rant on exactly what would make it hard for you! "American culture" is something I have been exposed to my entire life in so many ways, but hearing about how different it can actually be is one of the major reasons I lurk here

Here's the size of the US compared to the size of Europe. Look how many countries it overlaps. Think about how diverse all those countries are in terms of culture - social relationships, language, politics, cuisine, music, geography, etc.. In some ways, it's the same in the US, though generally we are all mutually intelligible to each other language wise. 

This is just such a big country and there are so many ways the different regions are, well, different. I'm from California and now live in Maryland. Very, very different cultures and I very much miss where I was born.