Maxwell 53: Escaping the Borg by Marriage. Who'd Have Thought Sarah?

[louannems]

On 7/19/2022 at 5:42 AM, Bethy said:

I think that at some point, way way back, Steve said that they try to keep their diet bland so it doesn't encourage fleshly appetites and overeating. I don't remember if that was in a Corner or a blog post or a comment on a blog post or at a conference that an FJ gatecrasher attended, but I remember it being discussed at some point probably over ten years ago.

When I was 23 years old, I joined the Seventh Day Adventist church.  (What was I thinking?).  There were plenty of members there who would not eat spices, including cinnamon!   Spices excite the flesh!   Even married couples often ate very bland, spiceless diets so as not to encourage excess sexual and physical appetites!

 I saw way too much child abuse, including abuse of babies, in that church and had to leave.

[anniebgood]

17 hours ago, Hellothere said:

anniebgood, how do you use the ground shallots? And what are your favorite ways to use Justice (i received a jar  and haven't used it much)?

I use them sparingly in place of dried onions. It's a subtle flavor. Justice I use in place of salt on grilled meats. 

[nelliebelle1197]

I wonder what Steve thinks now of his family spending time with the Duggars like this....

 

https://blog.titus2.com/2009/09/18/rogers-arkansas-report/

[SPHASH]

1 hour ago, nelliebelle1197 said:

I wonder what Steve thinks now of his family spending time with the Duggars like this....

 

https://blog.titus2.com/2009/09/18/rogers-arkansas-report/

For posterity 

 

[HoneyBunny]

1 hour ago, nelliebelle1197 said:

I wonder what Steve thinks now of his family spending time with the Duggars like this....

 

https://blog.titus2.com/2009/09/18/rogers-arkansas-report/

Yeah, that one didn’t age well, did it?  Especially the comments. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

They’ve gone to some recent weddings. They were at John and Chelsy’s wedding. I wouldn’t be shocked if Jana, JB and Michelle went to Sarah’s wedding. As long as it’s not a small wedding. 

[nelliebelle1197]

On 7/16/2022 at 3:21 PM, Black Aliss said:

Sarah would look stunning in that dress!

chocolate zucchini cake, FTW! https://cnz.to/recipes/cakes-tarts/chocolate-zucchini-cake-recipe/

This recipe has less sugar than others I've seen on the internet.

I would like to see one of the girls wear Teri's dress. I actually like it. It is funky and different for a 70s wedding.

Oh, Steve's pornstache will never get old. Steve really looks so much like John and Joseph, who do not look alike. It is weird.

 

Edited July 22, 2022 by nelliebelle1197

[JermajestyDuggar]

20 minutes ago, nelliebelle1197 said:

I would like to see one of the girls wear Teri's dress. I actually like it. It is funky and different for a 70s wedding.

Oh, Steve's pornstache will never get old. Steve really looks so much like John and Joseph, who do not look alike. It is weird.

 

My mom made her wedding dress and got married close to when Steve and Teri got married. It’s similar to Teri’s dress. My mom’s hair was similar too. But my dad didn’t have a mustache like Steve. He had huge mutton chops instead. My dad had the frilly shirt like Steve but his jacket wasn’t white it was black. 

[nelliebelle1197]

2 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

My mom made her wedding dress and got married close to when Steve and Teri got married. It’s similar to Teri’s dress. My mom’s hair was similar too. But my dad didn’t have a mustache like Steve. He had huge mutton chops instead. My dad had the frilly shirt like Steve but his jacket wasn’t white it was black. 

Are you SURE Steve and Teri are not your parents ?

[JermajestyDuggar]

3 minutes ago, nelliebelle1197 said:

Are you SURE Steve and Teri are not your parents ?

Very. My dad is like the opposite of Steve in looks. Plus my parents are long divorced. Steve would not approve. But my parents are very similar in age to Steve and Teri. My sister is Chris’s age and I’m Sarah’s age. 

[anjulibai]

Anna is practically Ter's clone. 

[Granwych]

17 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

My mom made her wedding dress and got married close to when Steve and Teri got married. It’s similar to Teri’s dress. My mom’s hair was similar too. But my dad didn’t have a mustache like Steve. He had huge mutton chops instead. My dad had the frilly shirt like Steve but his jacket wasn’t white it was black. 

I attended a wedding nearly 44 years ago and the groom wore a ruffled shirt and a rather strange jacket. All I could think of was that he played in a mariachi band sometimes.

 

 

 

[johnhugh]

And it wasn’t that many years ago that JB wrote a short introduction or endorsement to one of their more recent books.

I remember writing a blessed comment on their blog about how I could not wait to read Jim Boob’s intro which after a few days was corrected. Oh Stevie you are a killjoy.

 

[JermajestyDuggar]

I kind of think that middle class white people born in the 50s all were pushed to follow a certain path and do things a certain way. I figure that’s why my parents have such a similar looking wedding to Steve and Teri’s. Both couples eventually strayed from the normal path though. Steve and Teri went bonkers fundie and my parents divorced. I’m glad I wasn’t born in the 50s. I wasn’t ready to get married young and start having kids in my early to mid 20s like my parents and the Maxwells. I think that expectation didn’t work out for a lot of people actually. 

[Bethy]

1 hour ago, nelliebelle1197 said:

Steve really looks so much like John and Joseph, who do not look alike. It is weird.

I think John got his smile and the overall shape of his face (too soon to tell on the hairline) and Joe got his eyes but his face is longer like Teri's.

[petrushka]

12 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I kind of think that middle class white people born in the 50s all were pushed to follow a certain path and do things a certain way. I figure that’s why my parents have such a similar looking wedding to Steve and Teri’s. Both couples eventually strayed from the normal path though. Steve and Teri went bonkers fundie and my parents divorced. I’m glad I wasn’t born in the 50s. I wasn’t ready to get married young and start having kids in my early to mid 20s like my parents and the Maxwells. I think that expectation didn’t work out for a lot of people actually. 

I was born in the mid 1950's and can say the push to follow a pretty rigid path preceded that particular time in American history. My parents were born in the early 1930's.  They were both 1st generation Americans with Catholic Eastern European backgrounds. They had to contend with the expectations to fit in with the post WW2 culture and the old European customs of their families.  My parents had a long and mostly unhappy marriage due to pressure to marry early within the same religious and ethnic norms and live the stereotypical 1950's marriage.  My observations of their lives and living through the social changes of the 1960's and early1970's had more of an impact on my life goals that my early upbringing. So even though I did marry in my mid-20's, I felt no compulsion to marry for the same reasons my parents had.

All our kids waited until their 30's to marry. I'm happy they all married when they were ready, without any outside pressure.

[Hane]

@nelliebelle1197, I got married in 1973, and my wedding dress had a profile very similar to Teri’s. My husband, fortunately, insisted on classic plain black tuxes with white pleated-front shirts for himself and the gentlemen in the wedding party. @Granwych, in 1974, he and I were in a wedding party, and the guys got all decked out a la Stevehovah in those same black-and-white jackets, but shocking pink ruffled shirts. We gals wore ugly sleeveless scoop-necked A-line dusty rose dresses that hung like sacks, along with armpit-length white gloves and white picture hats trimmed with shocking pink ribbons. After we got dressed we looked at each other and laughed at our ridiculous getups.

Full disclosure: Ex-Mr.-Hane-#1 and I were divorced in 1980, but the couple who chose dusty rose and shocking pink just celebrated their 48th anniversary. I guess good taste didn’t necessarily pay off!

 

Edited July 22, 2022 by Hane

[nelliebelle1197]

1 minute ago, Hane said:

@nelliebelle1197, I got married in 1973, and my wedding dress had a profile very similar to Teri’s, but fortunately my husband insisted on classic plain black tuxes with white pleated-front shirts for himself and the gentlemen in the wedding party. @Granwych, in 1974, he and I were in a wedding party, and the guys got all decked out a la Stevehovah in those same black-and-white jackets, but shocking pink ruffled shirts. We gals wore ugly sleeveless scoop-necked A-line dusty rose dresses that hung like sacks, along with armpit-length white gloves and white picture hats trimmed with shocking pink ribbons. After we got dressed we looked at each other and laughed at our ridiculous getups.

Full disclosure: Ex-Mr.-Hane-#1 and I were divorced in 1980, but the couple who chose dusty rose and shocking pink just celebrated their 48th anniversary. I guess good taste didn’t necessarily pay off!

 

I really really want to see pics of that bridesmaids getup. 

[Hane]

Just now, nelliebelle1197 said:

I really really want to see pics of that bridesmaids getup. 

I no longer have those pics. I chucked them. There were two bridesmaids: I was short and chubby and the other was tall and thin, and both of us looked ridiculous, even more so because the style accentuated our differences. The bride’s dress, however, was exquisite.

I’m still salty about that damn wedding: I used to make all my own clothes and was damn good at it, but the mother of the bride insisted on having our dresses made by a seamstress she knew. I went to my first fitting and was in shock: the seamstress had cut out my dress so badly 3/4 of my bra showed and she had to redo it. When the dress was finished, I had to pin parts of the bodice to my bra so it wouldn’t show. I could have done a far better job myself.

The only good thing about that dress was that it was sleeveless and was 103° that day and, even though nothing was air conditioned back then, I didn’t die of heatstroke!

[Caroline]

8 hours ago, petrushka said:

My observations of their lives and living through the social changes of the 1960's and early1970's had more of an impact on my life goals that my early upbringing. So even though I did marry in my mid-20's, I felt no compulsion to marry for the same reasons my parents had.

 

I was born in 1958 and had no desire or pressure to do as my parents had done.  In fact, my own mother encouraged the opposite because she knew she had married a dud.  My father was an emotionally damaged WW2 vet who managed his PTSD by physically abusing my mother after drinking too much.  He fortunately walked out of our lives when I was five, and I saw what a competent woman can do when left to raise four kids on her own without the benefit of another person or a degree beyond high school.  Two of us married in our mid-30's, one didn't marry at all, and our only brother married the youngest, divorced, and then remarried the woman he divorced.  They both seem so happy now, and I think they were just too young back then.  My brother was possibly the most affected by my father's departure even though he was only a baby when that happened.  He had virtually no male role models in his life and took a lot of time figuring out what kind of man he was supposed to be.  He is currently a terrific role model for his own son and his grandson

I totally agree that what I saw happening in society as a teenager and young adult was much more influential than what my parents did.  Also, my own mother and all women born in the 20's and 30's had not contraception choices, no educational choices, and women had only been voting for a short time when my mother was born.  The women's movement and student protests agains Viet Nam had a huge impact on my impressions of the world and my own personal and political beliefs.   

[Hellothere]

ABC Facebook has a group photo posted in mid May of all students who were awarded scholarships that spring for, my guess is, the following fall semester.  Mary and Anna are the 2nd & 3 rd person on the far left side and tall Sam, Mary's friend, is towards the middle.  So the girls are heading back to ABC in the fall!!

[Paperplate]

On 7/21/2022 at 2:45 PM, Bethy said:

@WannabeHistorian I definitely recommend getting the 3-pack so you have one for home, one for the car, one for your purse, or whatever, because getting the venom out quickly after a bite is key, and it's best if you can get it sucked before you start scratching and spreading the histamine around. You don't want to get bit in the grocery store parking lot and then have to wait until you get home and get the groceries unloaded before you can go get your sucker, because you'll probably have itched and scratched by then.

My bites usually take about a day to start itching so I often don't even notice that I've been bitten right away. Does anyone know if that suction tool would still work if the bite isn't recent but hasn't been scratched yet?

I get huge welts that sometimes last for weeks so I'm really interested in anything that could help.

[anniebgood]

9 hours ago, Paperplate said:

My bites usually take about a day to start itching so I often don't even notice that I've been bitten right away. Does anyone know if that suction tool would still work if the bite isn't recent but hasn't been scratched yet?

I get huge welts that sometimes last for weeks so I'm really interested in anything that could help.

My daughter gave me a product called Afterbite. You roll it on over the bite and it does take the itch away. I used it this week on a bite  and it's almost gone now. She gets terrible bite reactions and this does help. I also used Benadryl anti itch gel. 

[Loveday]

1 hour ago, anniebgood said:

My daughter gave me a product called Afterbite. You roll it on over the bite and it does take the itch away. I used it this week on a bite  and it's almost gone now. She gets terrible bite reactions and this does help. I also used Benadryl anti itch gel. 

That stuff does work well. Mosquitos adore me, so I keep one Afterbite stick in the bathroom and one in the kitchen. 😏

[Jana814]

Afterbite is great!  My mother uses all the time.