2020 Election Fallout 15: More Information Is Being Revealed About The Big Lie

[fraurosena]

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Bannon turning on Trump is a big deal, and hopefully a sign of investigations ramping up and finally getting closer to Trump.

[fraurosena]

Public confessions have consequences:

 

[Dandruff]

1 hour ago, fraurosena said:

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Bannon turning on Trump is a big deal, and hopefully a sign of investigations ramping up and finally getting closer to Trump.

Pence, McConnell, and now Bannon...more to follow?  Suspect they're signalling that Trump is no longer viable as a candidate.  While I'd like to believe that there's a party fracture afoot, whether or not their behavior is investigation-related, I'm leaning more towards there now being a different monster for them to line up behind.

[fraurosena]

Trump and his cronies are so dumb. They thought purging the official logs would keep their traitorous acts secret. They never thought that the gaps themselves would be evidence to the fact that they felt the need to keep things out of the logs, and they therefore knew that what was being discussed with whom, was wrong. Plus, the purging of the records is in and of itself an illegal act. 

 

[GreyhoundFan]

Good riddance to bad rubbish: "Deputy Va. attorney general resigns after revelation of Facebook posts praising Jan. 6 rioters, claiming Trump won election"

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A top deputy overseeing election issues for Virginia’s new Republican attorney general resigned Thursday after The Washington Post questioned the office about Facebook posts she had made praising rioters at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and falsely claiming President Donald Trump won the 2020 election.

Former deputy attorney general Monique Miles also espoused unfounded conspiracy theories about voter fraud and election interference in more than a dozen Facebook comments that spanned months. Four people who interacted with Miles on Facebook confirmed the authenticity of the posts.

Victoria LaCivita, a spokeswoman for Attorney General Jason Miyares, said the office had been unaware of the Facebook posts before The Washington Post, which obtained screenshots of the posts, shared them on Thursday morning.

“This information was unknown to the Office of the Attorney General prior to this morning,” LaCivita said in a statement. “Ms. Miles has resigned from her position at the Office of the Attorney General.”

“The Attorney General has been very clear — Joe Biden won the election and he has condemned the January 6th attacks,” LaCivita said.

In an email to The Post, Miles called the revelation of the Facebook posts a “character assassination to stir up controversy” and wrote that “some liberals have their daggers out for black conservative females.”

“The posts were made at a time when the news was still developing re: the facts around the election, the court cases, the Rally on the Ellipse and what happened at the capitol,” Miles said in the email. “That was before all the audits occurred. These posts have been taken out of context.”

She added: “What we know now about the election today is very different from what we knew on Election Day 2020 or even what we knew on the day that President Biden was inaugurated in January 2021. I believe he is our president as he was certified as such.”

Miles wrote the Capitol attack was being carried out by “patriots” on the afternoon of Jan. 6, a couple of hours after the assault began and after a riot was declared.

“News Flash: Patriots have stormed the Capitol. No surprise. The deep state has awoken the sleeping giant,” Miles wrote, according to a screenshot. “Patriots are not taking this lying down. We are awake, ready and will fight for our rights by any means necessary.”

In response to someone who commented on the post, Miles wrote the riot was a “peaceful protest.” She added, “Don’t believe the MSM,” an acronym commonly used for the mainstream media.

Miles later edited the original post to blame the violence at the Capitol on “antifa dressed as Patriots,” saying the supposed false flag operation was “Typical antifa and BLM intimidation tactics.” BLM is typically used to refer to the Black Lives Matter movement.

Miles went on to write “Patriots are peace loving, Antifa and BLM are not.”

In other postings in the weeks after the 2020 presidential election, Miles made baseless claims that China interfered in the election and that there was evidence of significant voter fraud in Pennsylvania, Arizona and Michigan, among others states, according to screenshots. At two points, she flatly and falsely declared Trump was the true winner of the election.

“These left wing violent loonies better realize that DJT is getting a second term,” Miles wrote, referring to Trump by his initials.

Miles, who was the deputy attorney general for government operations and transactions, had a broad purview that included representing the state in election-related litigation and giving legal advice to the state Department of Elections and its governing body, the state Board of Elections, on various matters.

In the previous administration, the division worked on how to stage elections during the pandemic, a legal dispute over whether Kanye West would appear on the 2020 presidential ballot in Virginia and questions about whether ballots with certain issues would be counted.

The office also handles litigation and legal advice related to the environment, transportation, technology and energy among other topics. Miles, of Alexandria, was among a handful of top aides Miyares announced when he took office last month.

Friends described Miles as a stalwart conservative who is unafraid to make controversial claims on social media.

In 2015, Miles ran unsuccessfully for the Alexandria City Council. She also worked as a staff attorney for the Immigration Reform Law Institute, a conservative group seeking to curtail immigration.

Miles is also the founding principal of an employment and labor law firm in Alexandria. She was named one of the state’s top lawyers by Virginia Business magazine in 2021.

Miyares’s personnel moves have drawn criticism from Democrats, who questioned why he fired about 30 members of the attorney general’s office. They included the legal counsel of the University of Virginia, who had taken leave to serve as the top investigator for the House panel investigating the Jan. 6 attack.

Del. Schuyler T. VanValkenburg (D-Henrico) called the Facebook posts unsettling since Miles was in a position to be called on to give legal advice about election law. He said Virginia has worked to improve elections and increase ballot access in recent years.

“I think it’s an incredible troubling sign,” VanValkenburg said. “This seems to be a lot in line with the national Republican Party saying Jan. 6 is a normal political event. The Virginia attorney general has put in place a person who apparently believes the same.”

Several acquaintances said Miles made the postings on a personal account, one of three The Post found for her on Facebook. The account handle for most of the postings was “Monique Miglia,” but it was later changed to “Myb Monique.”

The comments obtained by The Post are not publicly visible, but Miles said they had not been deleted.

A screenshot of the post calling the rioters “patriots” was taken at 4:20 p.m. on Jan. 6, showing Miles’s post was made about an hour earlier. By the time the post was made, rioters had breached the Capitol and broken into the Senate chamber.

The post and the later edited version drew a number of angry comments from Miles’s Facebook friends, according to one screenshot. They included one of Miles’s high school government teachers who wrote, “I failed you.”

The teacher declined to comment.

Gil Grimmett, an Oakland, Calif., sculptor who had met Miles abroad in Japan and described her as kind, said he recalled the Jan. 6 post and said it was a breaking point for him after weeks of posts from her supporting fringe political ideas. Grimmett said he muted Miles’s posts in his Facebook feed afterward.

“I had pretty much drawn my line on the sand and she crossed it,” Grimmett said.

In the weeks leading up to the Jan. 6 posts, Miles regularly posted about the presidential election and debated with Facebook friends about its outcome. The posts came as President Trump also pushed false claims about election fraud.

In posts with one friend, she implied the military had classified evidence of election fraud or meddling, according to a screenshot.

“The China interference is real,” Miles wrote. “That is high level national security stuff. They can’t just release this evidence in civil court without following the proper protocol.”

In another exchange with the same person, Miles wrote the “MSM,” or mainstream media, has been compromised by the CCP, possibly meaning the Chinese Communist Party.

“We are at war with the CCP and those that sold our Country out to them,” Miles wrote. “Trump is here to take them down. Biden will never step his compromised self into the White House.”

In another exchange, Mazen Basrawi, a friend of Miles’s from the University of Virginia, where both attended college, asked whether Miles believed Trump won the 2020 election and wrote there’s “zero evidence” of widespread voter fraud.

“Yes,” Miles replied, according to a screenshot, “it’s based on evidence of actual fraud in PA, AZ, Michigan, and other states and violations of election laws and the Constitution. You will see in the next few weeks.”

Basrawi wrote in response that what Miles was saying was “extremely dangerous.”

“I responded … because I thought it was dangerous to espouse what are essentially lies about what happened in a democratic election,” Basrawi said in an interview. “That sows division in a country that needs to be brought together.”

In yet another exchange, a Facebook friend told Miles that allegations of fraud in the 2020 election were being used to incite anger and violence to defend Trump’s honor.

Miles replied: “They’re not false allegations. You haven’t seen the evidence yet. Things are about to get very real.”

Miles also posted articles to Facebook supporting unfounded 2020 election conspiracy theories, including one that claimed GOP ballots were rejected by Dominion voting machines in Georgia and another about supposed voter fraud that was labeled false by Facebook.

“Facebook and its lib fact checkers don’t want you to see this,” Miles wrote on the post.

In mid-January 2021, Miles wrote on Facebook that a post of hers about “Trump’s rally” had led to her being voted off a board she served on, according to a screenshot. She wrote she was upset that the post was included as part of the board’s election materials.

Miles wrote that “it’s sad that there are a lot of people stricken with the mental illness of ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ who feel that somebody can’t be a good person if they support Trump and then they endeavor to silence that person by any means necessary.”

Omar Melehy, president of the Metropolitan Washington Employment Lawyers Association (MWELA), confirmed Miles had not been reelected to its board in January 2021, but declined to say whether the Jan. 6 post by Miles played a role.

“MWELA held a contested election for Ms. Miles’ seat and other open seats in January 2021 and there were more candidates than open board seats,” Melehy said in a statement. “She did not receive enough votes to remain on the Board.”

In her email to The Post, Miles wrote that “it’s important for people to be able to have free and open dialogue on topics of concern without being cancelled.”

“Democracy dies when civil discourse is squelched,” she wrote. “Civil discourse makes us stronger as a society.”

She wrote that the 2020 election had sparked greater interest in the integrity of the electoral process and that voter ID laws and rules are a must.

One of the most recent screenshots of a Facebook post obtained by The Post came on Nov. 2, during Virginia’s general election when Miyares beat Democratic incumbent Mark Herring. Miles wrote “voter suppression” appears to be happening in precincts “across the Commonwealth.”

Miles wrote it was well-known that Republican voters tend to vote in person on Election Day and precincts had run out of ballots. She wrote “#shenanigans.”

“I’m stationed in a registrar’s office standing guard,” Miles wrote. “I’m anticipating a long night.”

 

[fraurosena]

This is what you get when you are so delusional that you believe you’re so smart you can outwit a seasoned journalist, even after said journalist has already made you confess to crimes on his show two times before.

 

[front hugs > duggs]

When will this shit actually come crashing down. I'm getting very impatient.

[fraurosena]

4 hours ago, front hugs > duggs said:

When will this shit actually come crashing down. I'm getting very impatient.

Although I totally agree with you -- I mean, haven't we all been on tenterhooks since november 2016? --  I'd rather be impatient and have them make such airtight cases that there will be no other way than to convict every single one of them. No wriggle room, no exceptions.

[Howl]

On 2/10/2022 at 11:08 AM, fraurosena said:

Trump and his cronies are so dumb. They thought purging the official logs would keep their traitorous acts secret. They never thought that the gaps themselves would be evidence to the fact that they felt the need to keep things out of the logs, and they therefore knew that what was being discussed with whom, was wrong. Plus, the purging of the records is in and of itself an illegal act. 

Is anyone else having a  flashback to Nixon missing an 18 min gap on tape? 

[thoughtful]

13 minutes ago, Howl said:

Is anyone else having a  flashback to Nixon missing an 18 min gap on tape? 

Oh, yes - I've been thinking of Rose Mary Woods off and on for quite a while.

[fraurosena]

If you need more proof that the FBI is gathering evidence of everyone involved in the insurrection, read on.

 

[GreyhoundFan]

Breaking news -- I wonder how long it will be until we get a flurry of unhinged statements from TFG: "Biden orders Trump White House visitor logs to be turned over to Jan. 6 committee"

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President Biden has ordered visitor logs from the White House during President Donald Trump’s tenure to be turned over to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The former president claimed the logs were subject to executive privilege. In a letter Tuesday, a White House lawyer rejected the claim, saying the National Archives should provide the records within 15 days to the House committee.

“The President has determined that an assertion of executive privilege is not in the best interests of the United States, and therefore is not justified, as to these records and portions of records,” White House counsel Dana Remus said in the letter.

 

[Dandruff]

5 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

Breaking news -- I wonder how long it will be until we get a flurry of unhinged statements from TFG: "Biden orders Trump White House visitor logs to be turned over to Jan. 6 committee"

I'm sure he's already on full boil from the Mazar's news, so any retort re. the visitor logs could be especially insent inceste Intense intense.

[47of74]

The Missouri senatorial fuck stick may have messed up again 

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Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) is selling what he declares is a “great way for proud, fearless conservatives to support” his campaign: a mug with an image of himself cheering on the mob preparing to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6.

It’s unclear if Hawley licensed the viral image for use. The Associated Press told Rolling Stone in an email that they are “not seeing anything in our billing system with that usage,” and that they will be contacting their attorney regarding Hawley’s potentially unlicensed use of the image. Hawley’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

It’d be nice if they could nail him on that. 

[Cartmann99]

Frisco Real Estate Broker and Capitol Rioter Jenna Ryan Released from Prison Camp

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In November, a federal judge sentenced Ryan to 60 days behind bars and ordered her to pay a $1,000 fine and $500 in restitution to the Capitol architect. U.S. District Judge Christopher R. Cooper felt Ryan demonstrated "a certain lack of accountability for [her] actions” in her numerous statements and media appearances following the riot.

Ryan, 51, was set to begin her prison stay in January but surrendered early. Some speculated she may have wanted to spend Christmas there so she could detail it in her forthcoming book.

The real estate broker first made headlines after flying to Washington via private plane to attend the Jan. 6 “Stop the Steal” rally. She livestreamed much of the day’s events on social media and filmed herself entering the U.S. Capitol among a throng of rioters. She posed in front of a broken window and called Jan. 6 “one of the best days of [her] life.”

Since then, Ryan's given numerous interviews to tell her side of the story but has at times accused the media, including this publication, of “slander” and “libel.” She also asked for, but did not receive, a pardon from former President Donald Trump. When her appeals to Trump didn’t work, Ryan reassured her Twitter followers that her God-given looks would help to keep her out of lockup.

“Definitely not going to jail,” Ryan wrote in a March tweet. “Sorry I have blonde hair white skin a great job a great future and I'm not going to jail. Sorry to rain on your hater parade. I did nothing wrong.”

Ryan also once told the Observer (before she stopped answering our calls) that the way she had been treated was “how they treated the Jews” in Nazi Germany.

 

[47of74]

The head oaf keeper is going to stay in the slammer

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Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes will be held in jail while he awaits trial, a federal judge in Washington, DC, ruled on Friday after prosecutors revealed new Signal app messages where Rhodes allegedly called January 6 "the final nail in the coffin of our republic" and instructed his followers to prepare for violence.

The messages from the encrypted app, which were presented during hearings Wednesday and Friday, allegedly show how Rhodes advocated for then-President Donald Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act. If Trump didn't, prosecutors allege, Rhodes repeatedly suggested that his followers should be ready to act without Trump's support.

Prosecutors used the messages as evidence that Rhodes is too dangerous to be let out of jail while he awaits trial. Friday, federal district Judge Amit Mehta agreed to keep him detained.

Mehta said Friday that Rhodes presents a clear and convincing danger, calling him an "extremely sophisticated individual" and that there was "simply no way" to mitigate the risk to public safety Rhodes poses.

 

[Cartmann99]

Rest o' thread under ye olde spoiler:

Spoiler

 

 

[Becky]

7 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

Rest o' thread under ye olde spoiler:

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I am grateful to the judge for this sentence, I think it is well deserved, but I don't understand his comparison to Ukraine.  

[Cartmann99]

 

[fraurosena]

Holy moly, this is big news indeed!

 

[Howl]

A bit more Seth Abramson:  

Here's the rest of this brief thread:

"Eastman was *not* a rogue lawyer operating in a vacuum. He was brought aboard Trump’s legal team by Cleta Mitchell, who is a top official in *both* of the secretive organizations Ginni Thomas runs *and*—like Eastman—is a close friend and associate of Thomas going *way* back. 

I want Eastman and Trump held accountable, but I also want those who wound up Eastman like a toy soldier and pointed him at Trump held accountable. Eastman appears to have committed crimes here, but he’s no criminal mastermind. Ginni Thomas is *above* him on the food chain. 

Ginni Thomas is now enmeshed in various clandestine DeSantis-for-President activities. If Trump goes down but Thomas is never even investigated, she reappears playing the *exact same goddamn role* behind the scenes for DeSantis that she did for Trump. That mustn’t happen. 

Consider how starved you—we—have become for even a *modicum* of justice. The danger our period of starvation creates is that we’ll accept whatever mid-level player ultimately gets pinched. John Eastman is a key player, but he’s not at the *top* of this seditious conspiracy."

[fraurosena]

Good grief.

"...you and your boss..."

That's weird. Who is this boss that Eastman is referring to? Surely not Trump? And if not then who?

[fraurosena]

Good grief.

"...you and your boss..."

That's weird. Who is this boss that Eastman is referring to? Surely not Trump? And if not then who?

And OMG!

 

[Alisamer]

21 minutes ago, fraurosena said:

Good grief.

"...you and your boss..."

That's weird. Who is this boss that Eastman is referring to? Surely not Trump? And if not then who?

I think the "you" here is Pence's lawyer, who the message was addressed to, and "your boss" was Pence.

He's basically saying "you didn't convince Pence to go against the constitution and declare Trump president, so this is on YOU."

And while Trump was president, I'm pretty sure Pence's "boss" is really the American people. Same as Trump. He didn't realize he had a boss and that he wasn't immune to criticism and the law, but it's true.

Pence served under Trump but, but he didn't swear to do Trump's bidding, the Vice Presidential Oath of Office is this: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

That "all enemies, foreign and domestic" includes Trump, IMO. I am no fan of Pence, but if he's even a quarter as "Christian" as he claims to be then Trump asking him to go against the constitution after Pence swore on a Bible to support and defend the constitution was likely a step too far. He was probably debating whether Trump's disapproval outweighed an eternity burning in a lake of fire and went with the disapproval. 

Trump doesn't understand Christianity, he just uses it for effect sometimes. So he probably didn't realize Pence wouldn't do his bidding in this one instance. 

[Cartmann99]

Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio charged with conspiracy in Jan. 6 US Capitol insurrection

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FBI agents arrested Henry "Enrique" Tarrio, former national chairman of extremist group the Proud Boys, in a dawn raid Tuesday in Florida on conspiracy charges in relation to the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

Tarrio, who made an initial court appearance Tuesday afternoon, was named in a superseding indictment that includes five previously charged Proud Boys defendants.

The indictment is unusual because Tarrio was not present at the Capitol on Jan. 6. He was arrested two days prior to the insurrection on unrelated charges by Metropolitan D.C. police and was barred by a judge from protesting in the city on Jan. 6.

Tarrio was added as a defendant in an existing conspiracy case against five other members of the Proud Boys who allegedly attacked the Capitol that day.

The indictment alleges that "Tarrio nonetheless continued to direct and encourage the Proud Boys prior to and during the events of Jan. 6, 2021, and that he claimed credit for what had happened on social media and in an encrypted chat room during and after the attack," according to a Department of Justice news release.