(CW: CSA) Josh & Anna 40 : Hope NWA Has Enough Booze* to Get the Jurors Through the Weekend

[HerNameIsBuffy]

*Weed isn't legal in Arkansas.  Thoughts and Prayers.

Continued from here...

 

[onekidanddone]

This must be one of the top forums that gets a new thread in only 48 hours.  I just hope we don’t break FJ in the process.  Didn’t that happen in 2019 when news of the raid broke?

[FiveAcres]

17 minutes ago, onekidanddone said:

This must be one of the top forums that gets a new thread in only 48 hours.  I just hope we don’t break FJ in the process.  Didn’t that happen in 2019 when news of the raid broke?

I think that may have been when I discovered FJ. I was looking for better discussion than I could find on Reddit. I do remember when Josh was arraigned for possession of CSAM, that the FJ mods were shutting down services so the server didn't get overwhelmed. 

Edited December 4, 2021 by FiveAcres
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[neuroticcat]

That Atlantic article is something else. Tragic and really disturbing.

[SassyPants]

11 minutes ago, onekidanddone said:

This must be one of the top forums that gets a new thread in only 48 hours.  I just hope we don’t break FJ in the process.  Didn’t that happen in 2019 when news of the raid broke?

And interestingly enough also on the day of a Bates girl’s wedding.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

14 minutes ago, onekidanddone said:

This must be one of the top forums that gets a new thread in only 48 hours.  I just hope we don’t break FJ in the process.  Didn’t that happen in 2019 when news of the raid broke?

We're no where near that level of traffic.  That one we were up to a few new threads a day and we had to let them go over 30 pages just to try and keep up.

FJ didn't break then.  The Amazing Destiny monitored the back end and it held up like a champ.

Ignore me, you said 2019 but I took it as the arrest in April because I lack the ability to read.  The bolded still applies though.

Edited December 4, 2021 by HerNameIsBuffy

[indianabones]

2 minutes ago, neuroticcat said:

That Atlantic article is something else. Tragic and really disturbing.

I know- I tried to find an update about the girl they profiled, but since I'm assuming they used pseudonyms and the author hasn't posted anything, nada. I'm hoping she gained more impulse control, if not empathy.

I don't think Josh is a psychopath. I think he's a pedophile who is also a product of being the firstborn son in an extremely patriarchal family where his actions were conveniently excused by Gothard's preachings about how boys and men are so easily tempted, and that sexual abuse is a message from God. I've attached some of his pamphlets under a spoiler that talk about exactly what IBLP had to say about sexual abuse.

Spoiler

 

[Destiny]

This must be one of the top forums that gets a new thread in only 48 hours.  I just hope we don’t break FJ in the process.  Didn’t that happen in 2019 when news of the raid broke?

We should be fine. I planned for this when we got a new server over the summer.

Edit: just to be clear, i reserve the right to shut down extras again now, but I don’t think we will need to. We’re fine.

[luv2laugh]

Video of them walking out. Is this David waller walking out behind Anna holding the box? 

 

[SassyPants]

3 minutes ago, luv2laugh said:

Video of them walking out. Is this David waller walking out behind Anna holding the box? 

 

It does look like him. I bet those Covid deniers are really grateful for having to wear (or having the option) those masks right about now-

[HerNameIsBuffy]

5 minutes ago, luv2laugh said:

Video of them walking out. Is this David waller walking out behind Anna holding the box? 

 

It sure looks like him.  I can't imagine why he'd be there.  Does anyone know if it's just a doppleganger on the defense team?

[ToriAmos]

The Pecan Thief himself.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

Just now, ToriAmos said:

The Pecan Thief himself.

That trial would have been much more fun to follow.  The only victim a farmer and of course the kidnapped pecans.

[indianabones]

4 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

It sure looks like him.  I can't imagine why he'd be there.  Does anyone know if it's just a doppleganger on the defense team?

He was there yesterday. Probably in support of Josh and Anna, plus his brother Michael testified.

Edited December 4, 2021 by indianabones

[neuroticcat]

Wow. 

15 minutes ago, indianabones said:

I know- I tried to find an update about the girl they profiled, but since I'm assuming they used pseudonyms and the author hasn't posted anything, nada. I'm hoping she gained more impulse control, if not empathy.

I don't think Josh is a psychopath. I think he's a pedophile who is also a product of being the firstborn son in an extremely patriarchal family where his actions were conveniently excused by Gothard's preachings about how boys and men are so easily tempted, and that sexual abuse is a message from God. I've attached some of his pamphlets under a spoiler that talk about exactly what IBLP had to say about sexual abuse.

  Hide contents

 

Wow. I had seen the chart with the circles but not the numbered lists above. That is a new level of bizarre. I am angry that IBLP is still in any form out there.

Edited December 4, 2021 by neuroticcat
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[HerNameIsBuffy]

Just now, indianabones said:

He was there yesterday. Probably in support of Josh and Anna.

I know he was, but that doesn't explain why he'd be walking out with the defense team carrying a tote full of binders.

Not sure if he'd be there for Josh and Anna, but his younger brother testified yesterday so I assume he was there for him.

Edited December 4, 2021 by HerNameIsBuffy

[ToriAmos]

8 minutes ago, indianabones said:

I know- I tried to find an update about the girl they profiled, but since I'm assuming they used pseudonyms and the author hasn't posted anything, nada. I'm hoping she gained more impulse control, if not empathy.

I don't think Josh is a psychopath. I think he's a pedophile who is also a product of being the firstborn son in an extremely patriarchal family where his actions were conveniently excused by Gothard's preachings about how boys and men are so easily tempted, and that sexual abuse is a message from God. I've attached some of his pamphlets under a spoiler that talk about exactly what IBLP had to say about sexual abuse.

  Reveal hidden contents

 

😮

I hadn't seen those first two sheets. OMG. 

So a child should only be with adults, always, to nurture his genius?

What if it's the freakin adults who are abusing?

No unscheduled time. Why do they believe their almighty god created such weak, contemptible, brainless creatures who need constant surveillance to stay out of trouble?

[neuroticcat]

2 minutes ago, indianabones said:

He was there yesterday. Probably in support of Josh and Anna, plus his brother Michael testified.

I wonder if any of this sinks in for him? He still is working with IBLP, right, and definitely Quiverfull? I wonder if, sitting in that courtroom, he has a moment where he questions any of it? 

[Cheetah]

26 minutes ago, neuroticcat said:

That Atlantic article is something else. Tragic and really disturbing.

which Atlantic article?  I missed the original post I guess. 

[SassyPants]

3 minutes ago, ToriAmos said:

😮

I hadn't seen those first two sheets. OMG. 

So a child should only be with adults, always, to nurture his genius?

What if it's the freakin adults who are abusing?

No unscheduled time. Why do they believe their almighty god created such weak, contemptible, brainless creatures who need constant surveillance to stay out of trouble?

This drivel looks like the joint works of JB Duggar and M is for Mama!

[neuroticcat]

3 minutes ago, ToriAmos said:

😮

I hadn't seen those first two sheets. OMG. 

So a child should only be with adults, always, to nurture his genius?

What if it's the freakin adults who are abusing?

No unscheduled time. Why do they believe their almighty god created such weak, contemptible, brainless creatures who need constant surveillance to stay out of trouble?

Right? And one thing to be glad about is that CSA will help you cultivate discernment and grow in spiritual power. It’s almost as if, hear me out…it could have been written by a predator and groomer. 🤮🤬

[indianabones]

2 minutes ago, neuroticcat said:

I wonder if any of this sinks in for him? He still is working with IBLP, right, and definitely Quiverfull? I wonder if, sitting in that courtroom, he has a moment where he questions any of it? 

Nah, it'll just be Satan's fault. Maybe Josh's for not having a strong enough character and giving into Satan.

1 minute ago, Cheetah said:

which Atlantic article?  I missed the original post I guess. 

When Your Child Is A Psychopath

[FunFunFundie]

I guess it was really not likely, but I was sure hoping Anna would walk out totally separate from Josh. I was hoping she wouldn't be willing to touch him after today.

[JermajestyDuggar]

5 minutes ago, neuroticcat said:

I wonder if any of this sinks in for him? He still is working with IBLP, right, and definitely Quiverfull? I wonder if, sitting in that courtroom, he has a moment where he questions any of it? 

He’s not working for IBLP but he’s still in the cult. He now has his own church in Texas where the Spiveys attend. Technically Josh is his Brother in Law. So I guess I’m not that surprised he’s there and carrying boxes. I just imagine him in Dirty Dancing saying, “I carried a box.”

[neuroticcat]

1 minute ago, SassyPants said:

This drivel looks like the joint works of JB Duggar and M is for Mama!

Tell me about M is for Mama please. I came across her on Instagram.

2 minutes ago, Cheetah said:

which Atlantic article?  I missed the original post I guess. 

Was linked in the last thread right before it locked. I can’t link it here for some reason but the title is “When Your Child is a psychopath, by: Barbara Bradley Hagerty

1 minute ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

He’s not working for IBLP but he’s still in the cult. He now has his own church in Texas where the Spiveys attend. Technically Josh is his Brother in Law. So I guess I’m not that surprised he’s there and carrying boxes. I just imagine him in Dirty Dancing saying, “I carried a box.”

He is a pastor? 😡