Alex Jones

[Howl]

Sweet Rufus wearing a Raincoat!  Alex Jones was that deer in the headlights look right before Bankston ran him over. 

"Mr. Jones, do you know what perjury is?"

Jones' lawyer's fuck up was two fold.  First, he "inadvertently" sent a full transcript of Alex's text/email messages to the plaintiff's attorney.

Second, that information was not covered by confidentiality;  plaintiff's lawyers could do with it as they wished! 

Can you imagine the celebration when Bankston et al. realized they had just been sent a gold mine of information?

I would not want to be chez Jones this evening. Somebody is wishing they had elephant tranquilizer right about now. 

  

 

[onekidanddone]

2 hours ago, Giraffe said:

It’ll be interesting to watch any fall out to Jones’ lawyer.
 

I know it’s a major breech of ethics but still, ISB: the lawyer sent it knowing it would potentially cost him his career but he probably has more than enough money to live a comfortable retirement knowing Jones will do even more time for numerous other crimes. 

Could this trigger a mistrial on grounds he had incompetent council?

4 hours ago, Xan said:

I would assume Reynal could even be disbarred.  But, then, he would have been in trouble anyway if he'd asked for the contents back if anyone had even glanced at them because it would have been obvious that they didn't turn over materials during discovery.  I'd be surprised if Jones didn't attempt to sue him for malpractice or try to get this ruled a mistrial.  It's a mess.

The upside for me (aside from all the karma for Jones) is that maybe he'll get put away for his part in January 6 before he has a chance to try to redo this trial.  And I think Reynal was the eleventh or twelfth lawyer that Jones has gone through so he might not be able to find anyone else -- except maybe Giuliani or Sidney Powell.

Oh please my our benevolent Rufus please make the prince of Four Seasons Landscaping and Kracken Karen Jones’s new attorneys. 

[Giraffe]

21 minutes ago, onekidanddone said:

Could this trigger a mistrial on grounds he had incompetent council?

Oh Rufus no!!!

[Ozlsn]

5 hours ago, Xan said:

And I think Reynal was the eleventh or twelfth lawyer that Jones has gone through so he might not be able to find anyone else -- except maybe Giuliani or Sidney Powell.

I would pay to watch that..

[47of74]

4 hours ago, Ozlsn said:

I would pay to watch that..

Goddamn I’m not sure there’s enough popcorn on Earth to cover that. 

Edited August 4, 2022 by 47of74

[47of74]

People are enjoying watching Alex having to squirm

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Naturally, people had a lot to say on Twitter.

 

 

[GreyhoundFan]

Attorney: "Did you do x,y,x?"

AJ: "No"

Attorney: Produces a picture of x,y,x

AJ: <crickets>

 

[47of74]

Alex's attorneys tried to get a mistrial.  Court said nope.

 

[Xan]

Saw this on Twitter a little while ago:

"Alex Jones -- you in danger, girl."

[CTRLZero]

1 hour ago, 47of74 said:

Alex's attorneys tried to get a mistrial.  Court said nope.

Well worth watching.  I especially liked Bankston stating that he had the January 6 commission waiting for the disclosed material.  Was there another entity wanting it?  I couldn’t hear that part.  Anyway, Jones’ attorney was telling a story (imagine some doors) while Bankston was reciting facts.  Interesting.  🍿  

[keen23]

25 minutes ago, CTRLZero said:

Well worth watching.  I especially liked Bankston stating that he had the January 6 commission waiting for the disclosed material.  Was there another entity wanting it?  I couldn’t hear that part.  Anyway, Jones’ attorney was telling a story (imagine some doors) while Bankston was reciting facts.  Interesting.  🍿  

Allegedly, Alex's ex-wife is also going to subpoena.

 

I can't help but wonder if the Atty did this on purpose, not for this case, but for the J6 case. It goes on record that it exists and now people can't make it disappear, like the other cell phone records in the J6 case.

[onekidanddone]

2 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

Attorney: "Did you do x,y,x?"

AJ: "No"

Attorney: Produces a picture of x,y,x

AJ: <crickets>

 

I’m going to need an ibuprofen the size of a Buick from all the head banging.  
Sweet Beansie in a can that man boy is one brain cell short of an apple pie. 

I wish Emily Baker would do a show on this instead of reporting on Depp/Heard. I swear she has run that subject into the ground. Does she not follow any political trials?

Edited August 4, 2022 by onekidanddone

[47of74]

33 minutes ago, onekidanddone said:

I’m going to need an ibuprofen the size of a Buick from all the head banging.  
Sweet Beansie in a can that man boy is one brain cell short of an apple pie.

Yeah and he only has about 1/2 dozen functional brain cells left.  Not that he had all that many to begin with.

48 minutes ago, keen23 said:

Allegedly, Alex's ex-wife is also going to subpoena.

 

I can't help but wonder if the Atty did this on purpose, not for this case, but for the J6 case. It goes on record that it exists and now people can't make it disappear, like the other cell phone records in the J6 case.

I had flash backs to civil procedure - in particular the units on discovery, production of evidence, and the like - when I heard of the Jones attorney cluster fornicate.

Just wait til all the J6 and Alex Jones stuff starts filtering into law school case books.  I wonder how many civ pro professors have noted that video to share with when students next take civ pro.

[Ozlsn]

 

[GreyhoundFan]

I wish it was $400 million. "Alex Jones must pay $4.1 million to Sandy Hook parents, jury rules"

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Infowars founder Alex Jones must pay $4.1 million in compensatory damages to the parents of a 6-year-old boy killed in the Sandy Hook mass shooting, an Austin jury announced Thursday, after the right-wing conspiracy theorist’s false claims that the deadliest elementary school shooting in U.S. history was a “giant hoax” created a “living hell” for the family.

The decision means that Jones, America’s foremost purveyor of outlandish conspiracy theories, could pay far less than the $150 million sought by Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis, the parents of 6-year-old Jesse Lewis, for Jones’s remarks nearly a decade ago after the massacre in Newtown, Conn., that killed 26 people, 20 of them young children.

Jones, 48, was previously found by judges in Connecticut and Texas to be liable for damages in lawsuits stemming from his false claims that the 2012 shooting was a “false flag” operation carried out by “crisis actors.” Since then, Jones has been banned from major platforms such as Facebook, YouTube and Spotify, and the parent company for his Infowars website filed for bankruptcy during the trial.

Despite Jones finally conceding this week in court that the shooting was not a hoax but “100 percent real,” District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble of Travis County, Tex., noted the considerable damage caused by the Infowars founder’s remarks — and how his comments led to years of abuse for Sandy Hook parents.

The jury’s decision, which did not include punitive damages, comes just one day after it was revealed in court that the legal team representing Jones inadvertently sent the contents of his cellphone to a lawyer representing the parents. The apparent blunder led attorney Mark Bankston to accuse Jones of lying under oath when he testified that he did not have any text messages related to the Sandy Hook massacre.

During the jury’s deliberations, Jones’s lawyers requested a mistrial and demanded that Bankston delete the phone data they had handed over, which the judge denied.

Once described by Roger Stone as maybe “the single most important voice in the alternative conservative media,” Jones has seen his false claims and rants launched into the mainstream national dialogue in recent years, embraced by the likes of then-President Donald Trump and Joe Rogan, the popular podcast host.

F. Andino Reynal, Jones’s attorney, did not immediately respond to a request for comment after the jury’s decision.

Shortly after the shooting in Newtown, Jones falsely claimed that “no one died” at Sandy Hook, and that the attack was “staged” and “manufactured” by gun-control advocates. Jones eventually retracted his false claims on the school shooting in 2019, blaming his statements on “a form of psychosis.”

Jones has been previously ordered to pay tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees to families who have sued him. Nine families have sued him over the years.

In default judgments against Jones and Infowars last October, Gamble ruled that Jones did not comply with court orders to give information in a pair of 2018 lawsuits brought against him by the families of two children killed in the massacre. Jones repeatedly failed to hand over documents and evidence to the court supporting his damaging and erroneous claims.

Gamble’s 2021 rulings related to two 2018 lawsuits filed by the parents of Jesse Lewis as well as Leonard Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa, who lost their 6-year-old son, Noah. Pozner and De La Rosa said they have faced emotional distress and have been harassed for years by Infowars fans who have followed Jones’s lead and falsely claimed that the shooting was staged.

During his Tuesday testimony, Heslin spoke of his grief — compounded with death threats and abuse from strangers that led the parents to fear for their lives.

“I can’t even describe the last nine-and-a-half years, the living hell that I and others have had to endure because of the recklessness and negligence of Alex Jones,” Heslin told the jury.

Scarlett Lewis echoed Heslin in testimony directed at Jones in the courtroom.

“My son existed,” she said. “There’s records of Jesse’s birth.”

Lewis stressed that she was not part of any “deep state” conspiracy theory.

“I know you know that. That’s the problem … and you keep saying it, why? For money?” she said. Lewis added: “It seems so incredible to me that we have to do this — that we have to implore you … to get you to stop lying.”

But perhaps the most dramatic moment in the contentious trial came Wednesday when Bankston told Jones how his attorneys had “messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cellphone” containing previously undisclosed texts about the massacre and financial information about Infowars.

“This is your ‘Perry Mason’ moment,” Jones responded to Bankston, a reference to the fictional lawyer famed for his stunning 11th-hour courtroom reveals. “I gave them my phone.”

After Bankston noted that Jones had testified under oath that he personally searched his cellphone for Sandy Hook text messages and was unable to find any, the attorney asked Jones: “You know what perjury is, right? I just want to make sure you know before we go any further.”

Jones denied lying, saying, “I’m not a tech guy.”

The trial in Austin, where Infowars is headquartered, had been delayed for months after the right-wing conspiracy website and two other of Jones’s business entities filed for bankruptcy protection in April. At the halfway point of the trial, Reynal noted in court how Free Speech Systems, Jones’s media company, had filed for bankruptcy, highlighting yet another financial blow to the Infowars founder.

Jones has also faced daily fines of $25,000 from a Connecticut judge for failing to show up for court-ordered depositions in March, and previously blamed stress and cardiovascular effects from his coronavirus infection for missing depositions in the Connecticut trial last year.

While Jones has claimed in court filings that he has a net worth of negative $20 million, attorneys for the Sandy Hook families have pointed to records showing that Jones’s Infowars store made more than $165 million between 2015 and 2018.

 

[CTRLZero]

I wonder why there were no punitive damages awarded?  Maybe they figured he’ll be adequately punished, soon enough.  I hope so.  

Edited August 4, 2022 by CTRLZero

[Dandruff]

8 minutes ago, CTRLZero said:

I wonder why there were no punitive damages awarded?  Maybe they figured he’ll be adequately punished, soon enough.  I hope so.  

I think the jury is supposed to convene tomorrow for punitive damages.

[AlmostSavedAtTacoBell]

9 hours ago, 47of74 said:

Alex's attorneys tried to get a mistrial.  Court said nope.

 

I mean this comment in the best way- that video is porn for anyone in the legal profession or who is interested in legal proceedings. Jones attorney basically says, “Yeah, I screwed up, plaintiff’s counsel gave me a chance to save my bacon, I sent an email that even a first semester law student on day three of civil procedure would know was faulty, but c’mon, judge, throw me a frickin’ bone ‘cause I look REALLY bad here!” Plaintiff’s attorney (who opened with “Hey, are the cameras & mics on because law enforcement is watching ‘cause shit’s gonna get real and would somebody go ahead and play the ‘Cops’ theme right about now?) starts dropping rules of evidence, slides in “which I KNOW he’s read” adds “fig leaf over his malpractice” and brings the drumline in with “oh and his co-counsel did it earlier so c’mon, what’s UP with these guys amirite?” before he just pretty much rocks the house with six or seven encores of not necessary but totally appreciated “I can’t believe these guys even passed the 8th grade Constitution test, much less a Bar exam!” arguments. Jones’ attorney tries to stem the tide of blood flow from all the cuts but his wee little bandaids fail miserably. Then the judge is all “Welp ok on the medical records but the rest is a big nope and hey, the January 6th committee wants the records? Does my stoic face betray my inner thoughts where I am doing a cover version of ‘Walking on Sunshine’ with lyrics revamped to go along with this trial?”

@onekidanddone, excellent Beansie in a can usage. I humbly add (because it is always funny):

 

[47of74]

8 hours ago, AlmostSavedAtTacoBell said:

I mean this comment in the best way- that video is porn for anyone in the legal profession or who is interested in legal proceedings. Jones attorney basically says, “Yeah, I screwed up, plaintiff’s counsel gave me a chance to save my bacon, I sent an email that even a first semester law student on day three of civil procedure would know was faulty, but c’mon, judge, throw me a frickin’ bone ‘cause I look REALLY bad here!” Plaintiff’s attorney (who opened with “Hey, are the cameras & mics on because law enforcement is watching ‘cause shit’s gonna get real and would somebody go ahead and play the ‘Cops’ theme right about now?) starts dropping rules of evidence, slides in “which I KNOW he’s read” adds “fig leaf over his malpractice” and brings the drumline in with “oh and his co-counsel did it earlier so c’mon, what’s UP with these guys amirite?” before he just pretty much rocks the house with six or seven encores of not necessary but totally appreciated “I can’t believe these guys even passed the 8th grade Constitution test, much less a Bar exam!” arguments. Jones’ attorney tries to stem the tide of blood flow from all the cuts but his wee little bandaids fail miserably. Then the judge is all “Welp ok on the medical records but the rest is a big nope and hey, the January 6th committee wants the records? Does my stoic face betray my inner thoughts where I am doing a cover version of ‘Walking on Sunshine’ with lyrics revamped to go along with this trial?”

@onekidanddone, excellent Beansie in a can usage. I humbly add (because it is always funny):

 

Yeah I imagine all of those government agencies watching were like this during the hearing 

[47of74]

10 hours ago, AlmostSavedAtTacoBell said:

I mean this comment in the best way- that video is porn for anyone in the legal profession or who is interested in legal proceedings.

Oh yeah, almost forgot - yeah here's the perfect soundtrack for that proceeding - which longtime fans of one Stephanie Miller's radio program should find familiar.

Spoiler

 

 

[danvillebelle]

The judge's face in that screen shot - I can't, LOL.  She is SO DONE with these clowns.

[47of74]

29 minutes ago, danvillebelle said:

The judge's face in that screen shot - I can't, LOL.  She is SO DONE with these clowns.

If I was the judge in this matter I'd probably be breaking records for sitting like this most of the time...

And there would probably be grumbling too from the higher ups in the judicial branch too that I spent so much of the trial like that.

[AlmostSavedAtTacoBell]

Waiting for the jury to come back with the punitive damages amount is worse than being a kid waiting for Christmas.  When Jones said any award over two million would "sink" Infowars (total bullshit and he knows it) I really hoped every juror thought, "Challenge ACCEPTED!"  The 4.1 compensatory damages already sent a pretty good message and it gives me hope for the punitive damages.  With the jackass going on the air DURING the trial and showing pictures of the judge on fire (and apparently making fun of the jury according to some reports but I haven't been able to access those clips); mocking Neil Heslin by calling him "slow" and saying he thinks he is "on the spectrum" as an insult*; and the constant lies, I am really wanting to see him get smashed financially.  I know the jury was privy to the clips of the "judge on fire" bit (which he tried to lie about only to have Braxton roll the tape) but I don't know if they were shown anything regarding his comments about the jury and Neil Heslin.  

*How in the HELL does Alex Jones think being on the spectrum is an insult??  I know people on the spectrum who are wonderful, smart, warm, cool, incredible people.  I know people who aren't on the spectrum who are straight up assholes.  It's no more insulting to be on the spectrum than it is to be gay or to be a female but idiots like him still use phrases suggesting that it is somehow "lesser than" to be one or more of those "categories" of human beings.  (I don't like to use "categories" but I can't think of a better way to phrase it.)  For that matter, fuck him with using "slow" as an insult as well.  Frankly, the really big insult that would upset me is if someone called me an "Alex Jones".  I would rather be called the c-word than be likened to that bloviating, thin skinned, corpulent bag of pus. 

[WiseGirl]

 

[AlmostSavedAtTacoBell]

I just checked.  Jury still out.  C'mon guys- it's Friday afternoon!  Don't keep us waiting over the weekend!  Roll in with a giant verdict so we can start celebrating!  Margaritas anyone?