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As religion and politics have increasingly mixed, presidential candidates have faced more questions about their beliefs. Some notable religion-and-politics quotes from the campaign trail going back five decades:

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"I believe in a president whose religious views are his own private affair, neither imposed by him upon the nation, or imposed by the nation upon him as a condition to holding that office." - John F. Kennedy, Sept. 12, 1960, in a speech to Greater Houston Ministerial Association, addressing concerns about his Roman Catholic faith.

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"The most important thing in my life is Jesus Christ." - Jimmy Carter, April 2, 1976, campaigning to become president. He became the first self-identified born-again president.

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"I understand this is a nonpartisan conference and you can't give me your endorsement, so I give you mine." - Ronald Reagan, Aug. 21, 1980, at a gathering of conservative Christians in Dallas, considered a key moment in mobilizing evangelicals for his campaign.

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"Christ, because he changed my heart." - George W. Bush, Dec. 13, 1999, at a debate for prospective GOP presidential candidates where he was asked to name a philosopher who had influenced him.

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"Dear Lord, maker of all miracles, I thank you for bringing me to this extraordinary moment in my life." - Joe Lieberman, Aug. 8, 2000, after he was announced as the first Jewish major party nominee for vice president.

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"I believe that I can't legislate or transfer to another American citizen, my article of faith." - 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, Oct. 13, 2004, in his third and final presidential debate with George W. Bush.

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"I submitted myself to His will and dedicated myself to discovering His truth and carrying out His works." - Barack Obama, June 23, 2007, describing his religious awakening, in an address to a national meeting of the United Church of Christ.

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"Let me assure you that no authorities of my church, or of any other church for that matter, will ever exert influence on presidential decisions. Their authority is theirs, within the province of church affairs, and it ends where the affairs of the nation begin." - Mitt Romney, Dec. 6, 2007, in a speech answering concerns about his Mormon religion while campaigning for the GOP presidential nomination.

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"The Lord has changed me just by allowing me to surrender to his will. ... A few years ago, he put a call on my heart to have me go into politics." - Michele Bachmann, Oct. 14, 2006, in a church appearance during her campaign for Congress.

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"That's tough to define." - Jon Huntsman, responding to a question in a Time magazine interview about whether he is a member of the Mormon church, published May 12, 2011.

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"Like all of you, I love this country deeply. Thank you all for being here. Indeed, the only thing that you love more is the living Christ." - Rick Perry, Aug. 6, 2011, at a prayer rally he hosted in Houston ahead of announcing his candidacy for president.

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It's good to keep in mind that Kennedy was trying to defend himself because he was raising suspicion as a Catholic, and as a Mormon Romney might be in a similar position.

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Politicians that outright pray to God, and say it like Perry, Bachmann, Carter, Bush etc. scare me because they are not holding to the separation between church and state that needs to be there or else we go back in history to the point of why the USA was created in the first place.

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It's good to keep in mind that Kennedy was trying to defend himself because he was raising suspicion as a Catholic, and as a Mormon Romney might be in a similar position.

This. Conservative christians might claim that they want something approaching a theocracy, but there would be a shitstorm even from them if the person showing support for a particular religion were not a traditional protestant christian. It seems like many people were "afraid" that the pope would be taking over the country when Kennedy was elected.

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Mitt Romney came the closest to Kennedy's views in some ways.

That's because they both have had their faith working against them. They're Christian enough to stand a chance, but still different enough (for their times) that plenty of Christians won't trust them. It's not so much that they don't care about other people's religions; it's that they want other people to not care about their religion. But the mainline and fundementalist Christians (the most common groups in the United States) know that their particular faith might work in their favor, so they are less likely to downplay the whole thing. I'm not saying that Kennedy and Romney would think differently if they were different faiths, only that they have more incentive than others to downplay the issue.

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