Jessa Duggar Seewald - Part 4

[twinmama]

As stupid as the gravy train's existence was in the first place, I can't blame them for being furious he ruined it. I'd want Josh's head on a platter in their shoes.

It's funny that Jim Bob and Michelle, who before they had a billion kids and a tv show seemed to work hard and make lots of income sources for themselves, have all these kids who can't figure out a job other than "be on tv."

[twinmama]

Agreed!! LOL!! Oh Jessa, casting out her fame net for attention! Please dont forget me!!! I cant go back to that panda frumper!! I like lipgloss!

Is she wrenching herself out from under JB's thumb. :popcorn2:

The irony here is that Jessa's smugness, judginess and pretense of worldliness is so much like smuggar Josh's early golden boy behavior in the early days of the series- (TTH building). He always knew where the camera was, and had a glib remark. Sound familiar?

Ha, I would definitely call her Smugger 2.0, at least judging by her social media posts. I think Jessa and Ben should totally be careful being all judgey against Josh for cheating. Obviously, he's a scumbag for doing it, but they've been married all of 5 minutes and married quite young. In a few years, they may be a little more understanding of what it means to have yoked yourself to someone you barely knew, for the rest of your life.

Edited because yolked does not mean yoked, lolololol.

[Handmaiden of Dog]

If JB has stopped doling out checks and if Jessa is making enough from her speaking engagements then I would not be at all surprised to see her butt heads with him. The interesting thing is if she stops revering her father as her "umbrella of protection" and views her husband as her "umbrella" because my guess is that Jessa does not revere Bin nor fear him. My guess is that Jessa sees herself as Bin's equal if not his superior in some things.

The worm turns, eh Jim Bob? What will Jessa do when she no longer fears the consequences?

[RebelYell]

I just looked at Jessa's Instagram page. The article on her FIL's blog is no longer linked- she removed the post. It is up on Ben's page though...was it there all along? Whada'ya suppose all that means?

ETA I see it is still up on her FB page, though. Maybe no possible interference from the Boob after all...

[LilahBelle]

I just looked at Jessa's Instagram page. The article on her FIL's blog is no longer linked- she removed the post. It is up on Ben's page though...was it there all along? Whada'ya suppose all that means?

ETA I see it is still up on her FB page, though. Maybe no possible interference from the Boob after all...

It means that she does not have a source of substantial income yet and Daddy still has an estimated 3.5 mil in the bank.

[quiversR4hunting]

Bible beaters amuse me also. The KJV was written not by god, but by committee. A group of clergymen numbering about 47-give or take- were divided into groups and translated from previously published bibles in English, the Vulgate and some Hebrew texts in Aramaic. Men of flesh did the translation and thus influenced the translation. One thing that you didn't mention was that the translation was specifically designed for the new "Church of England" Protestantism, and some of the "scholars" leaned heavily towards some of the more conservative Puritan beliefs. As to Shakespeare writing -some say he was secretly Catholic....but that doesn't mean he did not participate. He would write and accept patronages if the money was right.

I have a friend that is new convert to 7th day Adventist and she was trying to convince me (practicing Catholic) that the Bible was written by Moses. Then she back tracked and said just the OT was written down by Moses. She was mad when I said the Bible was originally written by many authors and many times they don't know who the actual author was and many books were legends/stories/allegory/metaphors/morals handed down by word of mouth. Most people couldn't write back then so the stories were handed down verbally until a scholar got ahold of it and wrote it down.

Granted, I could be way off, I didn't live (obviously) back in BC but that makes way more sense than one dude writing the whole damn thing!

[TheJewAmongUs]

I just looked at Jessa's Instagram page. The article on her FIL's blog is no longer linked- she removed the post. It is up on Ben's page though...was it there all along? Whada'ya suppose all that means?

ETA I see it is still up on her FB page, though. Maybe no possible interference from the Boob after all...

I don't follow her on Facebook. Is it possible that her accounts are synced and that deleting it from Instagram didn't remove it from Facebook, and she hasn't realized it yet? Between this post and the previous one about the pastor being almost exactly the same from both Jessa and Ben, I now wonder if maybe he's posting to both accounts or if they're even being managed by someone who really only intended to post that link from Ben's account. Although the idea that she's giving the finger to People, US Weekly Entertainment Tonight, etc who jumped all over this is quite amusing as well.

[Milly-Molly-Mandy]

Wow. Goes to show when there's money involved, opinions change. Looks like Blessa is on the way to throwing the Duggars under a bus and truly becoming a Seewald. I wonder if she's took on Ben's fire and brimstone Calvinist beliefs?

I'm surprised Jim Bob let her marry someone with such different beliefs. I remember reading on FJ a fundie father disallowed a courtship because of one tiny difference in the interpretation of a bible verse. This seems a lot bigger.

And uh...Calvinism seems harsh!

[justoneoftwo]

I'm surprised Jim Bob let her marry someone with such different beliefs. I remember reading on FJ a fundie father disallowed a courtship because of one tiny difference in the interpretation of a bible verse. This seems a lot bigger.

And uh...Calvinism seems harsh!

Calvinism is super harsh. I would also imagine Jessa not forgiving may be a sign that she is not one of the saved. . . I'm not sure though, they don't seem big on forgiveness.

[N The Prayer Closet]

I agree, but I think I prefer the new crazy, mainly because there's a decent chance it'll really piss JimBob off!!

:D :D :D

This. Aaaannnndddd....Jinger is her best friend. My hope is that Jessa and Ben can coax Jinger out of the TTH and have her come stay with them. The Seewalds are nuts but seem to be less controlling than the Duggar parents. Maybe there's a chance of Jinger leaving when Jessa's baby arrives? After all, we know the Duggar women can't raise children without nannies. Hell! Jill has 2 nannies at the moment!

[goldfishgoddess]

Don't forget all of the Duggers are operating under the advice of a disaster specialty PR firm in Little Rock. I don't think any of the Duggars/ Seewalds/ Dillys post anything without it being vetted through this firm.

I'm guessing that the Seewalds and Dillys got the go ahead to push back against Josh slightly. In a way pretty smart, because it helps distance them as Dillards and Seewalds.

I think the Duggars been told to basically post about birthdays, babies and weddings if they aren't apologizing for Josh. Play up the happy things people liked about the Duggars.

[Alexa]

I think this really is the beginning of the Duggar kids publicly going their own way. I can't imagine Jim Bob and Michelle are thrilled about what Mr. Seewald wrote about Josh or Jessa publicly linking it. Jessa is a ticking time bomb, it's just a matter of time with her. Is Josh still missing in action? Josiah strikes me as another ticking time bomb. Joseph seems to spend more time with the Bateses than with his own family. John David seems fairly checked out of it all with no wife in sight while he happily flies his plane. You just know a few howlers are going to go fundie-light. Hopefully at the end of the day Jessa can take Jinger with her.

Or, it could be Jim Bob is really flipping out behind doors about Josh and blaming him for everything so Jessa felt that it was now okay to publicly renounce Joshy boy, but Jim Bob asked her to take the link down and keep their thoughts about Josh private? Whatever it is, I don't think it will be as long as I thought until the first Duggar kid writes a tell-all.

[VTSleeper]

Don't forget all of the Duggers are operating under the advice of a disaster specialty PR firm in Little Rock.

If that is true they should ask for their money back. So far they've been a pretty good lesson on how public figures should NOT handle a situation such as this.

[jqlgoblue]

Well... First, it's likely they began retaining this service only relatively recently and second, I'm not sure a disaster PR agency in Little Rock is what they need. They need Hollywood level damage control, especially b/c they seem to keep leaking things to get MORE attention.

Now I'm sure they'd never give their money to such people, but that is what not interacting with anyone secular and buying used to save the difference does. Cheap but quality sucks.

[Yoshimi]

Classic Duggar move from Blessa - https://instagram.com/p/7JWyGQDfqD/

"Have a controversy? Quick, distract the minions with a cute pic of my nephew!" :popcorn2:

Side-note but it's interesting that Jessa tagged #Izzy in her post. I'm so used to people calling him Izzy on FJ and other boards but, if I'm correct, I think that's the first time any of the Duggars have used the same nickname. Kind of makes you wonder where they got it.... :think:

[hockeymoo]

So Blessa Messa has basically sponged up Ben's personality (the sudden fitness interest, the Calvinism, etc), and then we have Jill dressing her baby in Pistol Pete gear from Derick's alma mater but seemingly contributing nothing of her own interests/background to her new family... these girls have NO personalities of their own. They're just empty vessels waiting for some man to come along and give them purpose. How pathetic.

No wonder Josh is a screw up -- none of those kids have been raised to think.

[Sherryburger]

So Blessa Messa has basically sponged up Ben's personality (the sudden fitness interest, the Calvinism, etc), and then we have Jill dressing her baby in Pistol Pete gear from Derick's alma mater but seemingly contributing nothing of her own interests/background to her new family... these girls have NO personalities of their own. They're just empty vessels waiting for some man to come along and give them purpose. How pathetic.

No wonder Josh is a screw up -- none of those kids have been raised to think.

Of course they haven't been raised to think--that would defeat the whole purpose, wouldn't it? They cannot question the Bible, the preacher, the headship--otherwise logic and clear thinking might sneak in.

[nausicaa]

So Blessa Messa has basically sponged up Ben's personality (the sudden fitness interest, the Calvinism, etc), and then we have Jill dressing her baby in Pistol Pete gear from Derick's alma mater but seemingly contributing nothing of her own interests/background to her new family... these girls have NO personalities of their own. They're just empty vessels waiting for some man to come along and give them purpose. How pathetic.

No wonder Josh is a screw up -- none of those kids have been raised to think.

We all knew the Duggar girls were the "You love football? Why I love football! Go local team, score a homerun!" types. There's the submissiveness they've always been taught, combined with their immaturity (they're going through stages the rest of us completed in high school), and to top it all off, what of their own personalities do they really have to contribute? Jill can't dress her baby in her alma mater's gear because she doesn't have one. Jessa can't workout with Ben by playing her favorite sport, because she wasn't allowed to play on any teams growing up.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

I'm surprised Jim Bob let her marry someone with such different beliefs. I remember reading on FJ a fundie father disallowed a courtship because of one tiny difference in the interpretation of a bible verse. This seems a lot bigger.

And uh...Calvinism seems harsh!

I dont know much about Calvanism, like why they try to preach to people if it's already a done deal.

Seems to me if you're predestined to be saved you're set, if not..nothing you can do about it so no reason not to grab a drink, hit the couch, and carry on. I'm spiritually lazy so I have to admit I see the appeal of a religion based in nothing you do matters, so why bother? :D

But there has to be something more to it or they wouldn't be so clenched all the time. Too bad - has the makings to be the quintessential dgaf sect.

[twinmama]

If that is true they should ask for their money back. So far they've been a pretty good lesson on how public figures should NOT handle a situation such as this.

I'd put this more on the fact that they probably are total shit listeners. They are so arrogant that they think "I'll just write up this apology and post it!" and don't check with anyone. Then the poor PR person sees Josh admitting to porn addiction, which the press wasn't even discussing, and freaks out. Etc.

[knittingdiva]

OK, thanks for clarifying. The OP described it as private herself, which was what sat uncomfortably with me. If it is not private, then no harm, no foul. :)

We all talk about wanting the second generation fundies to wake up and get out of their family's hair, but I think it must be really hard to do that under the scrutiny they get.

I see this pair as being hopelessly naive for their age, and I guess the lack of inhibition wrt private info is part of the homeschooled minor celebrity package they need to ditch.

My bad, I should have clarified.

[RabbitKM]

So Blessa Messa has basically sponged up Ben's personality (the sudden fitness interest, the Calvinism, etc), and then we have Jill dressing her baby in Pistol Pete gear from Derick's alma mater but seemingly contributing nothing of her own interests/background to her new family... these girls have NO personalities of their own. They're just empty vessels waiting for some man to come along and give them purpose. How pathetic.

No wonder Josh is a screw up -- none of those kids have been raised to think.

To be fair, it's not like we know anything about the kids personalities before they court, because that is when they are allowed social media. If Jana started courting, and then all of a sudden we saw pics on her instagram of her doing something random with the dude, I would probably chalk it up to the fact that all we know about these kids is what was shown on a scripted tv show. So we really don't know how much Jessa was into fitness before she met Ben.

(Disclaimer: This is not meant to be a defense of the girls, because god knows I would be the last one on that bus, but I don't want to condemn things that may not even be a thing)

[HarleyQuinn]

Does Jessa really think posting a picture of mini Jim Bob is going to make people be less harsh towards her?

Lol

[HarryPotterFan]

I just looked at Jessa's Instagram page. The article on her FIL's blog is no longer linked- she removed the post. It is up on Ben's page though...was it there all along? Whada'ya suppose all that means?

ETA I see it is still up on her FB page, though. Maybe no possible interference from the Boob after all...

It's still up on her Twitter page, where I originally saw it.

[punkiepie]

J'Chelle accepted the Mother of the Year Award from DPIAT/R on a 19 kids and Counting episode- they are as Reformed and Calvinistic and you can be. Why would it be surprising that they accepted VF following Ben Seewald and Co., as a suitor for Jessa? I have never thought that the Duggars were trying to lead people to Jesus- more that they were trying to lead Jesus Followers to Gothard.