Sparkling Adventures Blog

[heidi]

His username is Saviouroftheworld

His username in combination with the videos and his outburst in church make me wonder if he began to think of himself as a "Messiah" type figure.

[pastaswife]

New entry up, the sparkling one had to miss out on a festival, but people gave her things so it was okay.

She also has solar panels on the housebus. I don't know how they cry poor with all these gadgets. If I saw someone with kids who looked like Laurens do, yet they had laptops and solar panels on their coaster and "kipis" I'd rant about how selfish she is, not offer her a place to stay.

[piaffe1]

I just wasted entire days worth of free time reading the archive of this whack-job's blog. I seldom post, but this one is drawing me out of the shadows.

***warning ******potentially unpleasant hypothesis of the baby's death to follow*

I keep coming back to her statement (er, um, I mean 'blog post') that she wrote about the day Elijah died. http://www.sparklingadventuresdotcom/index.php?id=1642 Now admittedly, I can be one suspicious bitch when my spidey senses start tingling, but am surely not the only one that thinks Elijah was dead most of that day?????

I cannot shake the creeps I get when I read that blog post, and I firmly believe that child died shortly after she fed him in bed that morning (and he bit her... did she smack him a bit too hard? stuff something in his mouth 'to teach him a lesson?).

I think the rest of the day played out pretty much as she describes it (with the possible exception of all of the sisters playing with Elijah while she showered), with the glaring exception being that the baby dead the whole time.

I think those sparkly coincidental conversations with Aisha about death and dying were deliberate. I suspect Aisha was the only child old enough to really need an explanation, and perhaps she was the only child that noticed there was something not quite right about Elijah.

I think when she got home, David's solution was to fake the fall off the bridge, and then take the fall for her. I couldn't find anything on her blog about how/when David was arrested, but it appears to have been very shortly after the incident. And he was never allowed out on bail and charged with murder. That would mean that it must have been evident from very early on that this was no accident (ie the cause of death was clearly not drowning) and/or he confessed. Does anyone have any links that would cover that period?

The way Lauren speaks on her blog, it appears that she is confident that he is guilty almost immediately as she casually makes reference to him not being around for a very long time. Her offhanded almost wistful comments about how long he will be gone (not might be gone, or 'maybe we'll see him soon') seem to me as though she has, at the very least, always known what the outcome of any trial will be.

Is there anyone out there with any statement-analysis skills that would be willing to weigh in on this?

[Morton Fan]

Not that I ever saw. He posted a lot of videos on youtube, though. His username is SaviorOfTheWorld, or something pompous like that.

His username is Saviouroftheworld

His username in combination with the videos and his outburst in church make me wonder if he began to think of himself as a "Messiah" type figure.

Thanks! I wondered how everyone seemed to know so much more than I did about David. :)

[Guest Anonymous]

I just wasted entire days worth of free time reading the archive of this whack-job's blog. I seldom post, but this one is drawing me out of the shadows.

***warning ******potentially unpleasant hypothesis of the baby's death to follow*

I keep coming back to her statement (er, um, I mean 'blog post') that she wrote about the day Elijah died. http://www.sparklingadventuresdotcom/index.php?id=1642 Now admittedly, I can be one suspicious bitch when my spidey senses start tingling, but am surely not the only one that thinks Elijah was dead most of that day?????

I cannot shake the creeps I get when I read that blog post, and I firmly believe that child died shortly after she fed him in bed that morning (and he bit her... did she smack him a bit too hard? stuff something in his mouth 'to teach him a lesson?).

I think the rest of the day played out pretty much as she describes it (with the possible exception of all of the sisters playing with Elijah while she showered), with the glaring exception being that the baby dead the whole time.

I think those sparkly coincidental conversations with Aisha about death and dying were deliberate. I suspect Aisha was the only child old enough to really need an explanation, and perhaps she was the only child that noticed there was something not quite right about Elijah.

I think when she got home, David's solution was to fake the fall off the bridge, and then take the fall for her. I couldn't find anything on her blog about how/when David was arrested, but it appears to have been very shortly after the incident. And he was never allowed out on bail and charged with murder. That would mean that it must have been evident from very early on that this was no accident (ie the cause of death was clearly not drowning) and/or he confessed. Does anyone have any links that would cover that period?

The way Lauren speaks on her blog, it appears that she is confident that he is guilty almost immediately as she casually makes reference to him not being around for a very long time. Her offhanded almost wistful comments about how long he will be gone (not might be gone, or 'maybe we'll see him soon') seem to me as though she has, at the very least, always known what the outcome of any trial will be.

Is there anyone out there with any statement-analysis skills that would be willing to weigh in on this?

There are all sorts of similar speculations on the first 100-page thread on this topic. On my first reading, I bookmarked lots of links from Lauren's blog, but many have been edited or deleted now. Your best bet would be to trawl through the FJ comments posted in the first month or so after it happened.

To me it seems likely that he drowned, as Lauren would know that the autopsy report would become public knowledge at some point. The issue of who was with him/how he drowned has been speculated on in some detail on that other thread.

[piaffe1]

Thanks Annie, off to trawl now!

[freejoytoo]

I think those who performed the autopsy would be able to tell if how he died, so I think it rules out him dying before hitting the water. Personally I think David is just as bad as Lauren.

[lilith]

I suspect some involvement by Lauren, though I'm not sure in what way or how much.

She's just never expressed any anger or blame at all towards David, and not matter how enlightened and sparkly and understanding of mental health as a health issue one is, I can't imagine being able to be instantly and constantly supportive and understanding of someone who had killed your baby.

[happy atheist]

I remember some people suspecting Lauren in Elijah's death, but I always took that to mean they thought she killed him that evening. The idea that he'd been dead all day never occurred to me, but I do recall her writing something about Elijah's head tipping over and a stranger tipping it back. That's really creepy to think about in this new light. And, of course, all the death talk with the girls.

I do think, though, that the coroner would be able to tell if he'd been dead for hours before going in the water.

She has another new post up now, about swimming. She very deliberately talks about using sunscreen, so I guess she's tired of people speculating about that.

But, hey, did you know that there's really no reason to give your kids swimming lessons? They can just figure it out for themselves!

I can't believe this is the attitude of a woman who had a child drown. It just boggles my mind!

Calista has developed into an adequate swimmer.

Early this summer, she inadvertently fell into a friend’s deep pool. Immediately, I was at her side, but I held back from interfering when I watched Cali turn around and find the edge to hold onto.

She's adequate! I guess that means she's ready for the olympics of sparkle!

And then, just to stand by and watch her daughter struggle in deep water? After her son drowned? WTF is wrong with this woman?

[ILoveJellybeans]

I also find it suspicious that she had a conversation about death with Aisha on the day that Elijah died. I think that if Elijah had actually died before he was thrown in the river the autopsy would show it......unless he had drowned earlier, would they know if that happened? I know they would have been able to tell by the things in the water in his lungs whether it happened in the bath (because of traces of soap) or in a river with all of the little organisms that happened....but what if Elijah drowned in a river before, either due to negligence or due to one of the parents drowning him?

I think the reason why David was arrested straight away is because theres no way he could ever have fallen off the bridge, theres pictures of it and there is no way that anyone could have fallen off it with a stroller. I think that Lauren might have felt like killing her baby and didnt know how long she could hold out, or knew that there was something up with David and suspected he might have thought about killing one of the kids. Or they planned it to reduce the quiver a bit. Im sure with all of the pictures of her letting her kids play in unsafe situations (especially near water), that Lauren did have a part to play in it. The amount of water pictures seem suspicious to me, and sometimes how incredibly crappy her parenting is does make me wonder whether she wants the kids to die so they cant hold her back on her sparkling adventures.

[lilith]

I remember some people suspecting Lauren in Elijah's death, but I always took that to mean they thought she killed him that evening. The idea that he'd been dead all day never occurred to me, but I do recall her writing something about Elijah's head tipping over and a stranger tipping it back. That's really creepy to think about in this new light. And, of course, all the death talk with the girls.

I do think, though, that the coroner would be able to tell if he'd been dead for hours before going in the water.

She has another new post up now, about swimming. She very deliberately talks about using sunscreen, so I guess she's tired of people speculating about that.

But, hey, did you know that there's really no reason to give your kids swimming lessons? They can just figure it out for themselves!

I can't believe this is the attitude of a woman who had a child drown. It just boggles my mind!

She's adequate! I guess that means she's ready for the olympics of sparkle!

And then, just to stand by and watch her daughter struggle in deep water? After her son drowned? WTF is wrong with this woman?

The eldest two had swimming lessons. It seems she's expecting the younger girls to just pick up the skills that the older girls were taught by a professional. That's scary. If she's giving Calista at 4 who hasnt been taught to swim the same lack of boundaries as she gave Aisha and Brioni, who had had a few years of lessons, at the same age, another drowning is a real possibility.

And she also seems to rely on the older girls to watch their little sisters in the water. Kids that age are way too easily distracted for that responsibility, and probably not strong enough to assist a drowning sibling anyway.

[lilith]

" Brioni kept her toy pony close and showed it all the tricks she could do. At this pool, Aisha didn’t play directly with other children but stayed in their vicinity and watched their games."

The thought of little Aisha standing off to the side and watching socialised kids play games that she didn't feel she could join in is heartbreaking.

Other kids and parents will judge those girls on their hacked off hair and dirty raggedy clothes. It might not be fair, but its reality.

[amydamy]

I remember some people suspecting Lauren in Elijah's death, but I always took that to mean they thought she killed him that evening. The idea that he'd been dead all day never occurred to me, but I do recall her writing something about Elijah's head tipping over and a stranger tipping it back. That's really creepy to think about in this new light. And, of course, all the death talk with the girls.

I do think, though, that the coroner would be able to tell if he'd been dead for hours before going in the water.

She has another new post up now, about swimming. She very deliberately talks about using sunscreen, so I guess she's tired of people speculating about that.

But, hey, did you know that there's really no reason to give your kids swimming lessons? They can just figure it out for themselves!

I can't believe this is the attitude of a woman who had a child drown. It just boggles my mind!

She's adequate! I guess that means she's ready for the olympics of sparkle!

And then, just to stand by and watch her daughter struggle in deep water? After her son drowned? WTF is wrong with this woman?

I used to work at a place similar to the one she went to. I was a camp counselor and a life guard. All kids in the camp got daily swim lessons as part of the camp activity. We usually had free swim in the afternoon. I would see kids who I knew could swim , who had lessons that morning , jump off the high dive and freeze when they hit the water and need to be pulled out. They were always fine and probably would not have drowned, but I would hate to see what would have happened to a kid who was learning to swim by osmosis. My mom was a competitive swimmer and we grew up with a pool in the back yard so we were in the water since day one. My mom still had us take lessons. Having been a life guard water safety is a big thing for me and it boggles my mind that Lauren simply could not give two shits about it after losing a child to drowning.

[Bloo]

I also find it suspicious that she had a conversation about death with Aisha on the day that Elijah died. I think that if Elijah had actually died before he was thrown in the river the autopsy would show it......unless he had drowned earlier, would they know if that happened? I know they would have been able to tell by the things in the water in his lungs whether it happened in the bath (because of traces of soap) or in a river with all of the little organisms that happened....but what if Elijah drowned in a river before, either due to negligence or due to one of the parents drowning him?

I think the reason why David was arrested straight away is because theres no way he could ever have fallen off the bridge, theres pictures of it and there is no way that anyone could have fallen off it with a stroller. I think that Lauren might have felt like killing her baby and didnt know how long she could hold out, or knew that there was something up with David and suspected he might have thought about killing one of the kids. Or they planned it to reduce the quiver a bit. Im sure with all of the pictures of her letting her kids play in unsafe situations (especially near water), that Lauren did have a part to play in it. The amount of water pictures seem suspicious to me, and sometimes how incredibly crappy her parenting is does make me wonder whether she wants the kids to die so they cant hold her back on her sparkling adventures.

I imagine they'd be able to tell by the stage of the body's rigor mortis whether he'd been dead for hours or not. Also, liver temperature can help in that regard, though I don't know if submersion would affect that.

Lauren's insane and an unfit parent, but I'm not sure if she's evil, dogged by guilt, or just plain fucked up.

[lilith]

Lauren looks so thin here it's scary.

http://www.sparklingadventures.com/images/9331.jpg

[August]

Break that link, Lilith!

It was gradual so you'd need to look through the blog at many posts to get a feel for it. Maybe "institutional church" would be a good search term, but I honestly couldn't point to a post for you without serious digging. David was asked to leave the church in ?2009 because he had a few episodes where he shouted across the speaker with a differen viewpoint to the church party line, and consequently was removed from the building and told to stay away for a few weeks to cool off. Later on Lauren attributed that as being the catalyst to them leaving the institutional church, but said it was something they needed to do anyway and it took that episode to shake them out of their complacency. Up until Elijah's death they still retained many traditional Christian beliefs although they had become 'homechurchers', but it seems likely that David himself would not recognise her current belief system from where it was in June of last year.

At one point she talks about how their heart turned to change (or something like that ) in August of 2010, but there's no post about it, she's just all of a sudden got a nose piercing.

My pet theory is that she is one of those exceptionally legalistic people. She's all about following the rules, not about the why of it. So she was all about Ezzo and religion, until she wasn't. And then she was all about the hippy rules, where parenting is bad. Most people are middle of the road because they take some things with a pinch of salt, are too lazy for other things, think other things are exceptionally important, etc. Lauren doesn't do that, she doesn't think "bodily autonomy is important, but fuck me but that hair looks awful, I'll have to get it professionally cut short so I can bear to look at her, and if it's short that should keep her quiet about keeping it out if her face". That would be a compromise between her wishes and her child's wishes. Lauren doesn't compromise. You see a lot of her type on the internet asking if this or that is AP or not. Because whether it conforms to a label is the most important thing about any decision you make. :roll:

[lilith]

She knows about us, and if she won't shut the blog for a murder investigation she's not going to shut it because of us.

[CheeseDeprived]

" Brioni kept her toy pony close and showed it all the tricks she could do. At this pool, Aisha didn’t play directly with other children but stayed in their vicinity and watched their games."

The thought of little Aisha standing off to the side and watching socialised kids play games that she didn't feel she could join in is heartbreaking.

Other kids and parents will judge those girls on their hacked off hair and dirty raggedy clothes. It might not be fair, but its reality.

I think Aisha looks the least raggedy of them all (though probably still enough so to be judged by other kids and parents), but as I said in an earlier post, it seems to me that she rarely joins in anyway, and is rarely in any photos... or in this case, with the new entries, she always looks down/away from the camera. Could be a coincidence... but either way, when we get a little glimpse of her, she always looks so terribly unhappy. It breaks my heart. Anyone who's ever had a child her age will know how sensitive they can be. Old enough to take in most things (that may go over the younger girls' heads), but not old enough to make sense of it all... especially with a mother who is in complete denial and all kinds of selfish and crazy.

I feel so bad for her, it makes me want to weep with frustration.

ETA - just read your post August, and it makes a lot of sense to me. No, there's no compromise, no middle ground whatsoever.

[lilith]

Aisha looks better because she is old enough to groom herself and probably tries to take care of her clothes. But she's still reliant on her mother to provide personal care items and clothes and to launder those clothes, so no matter how hard she tries she will still be "different".

Little girls of that age can be brutally cruel to another child who is different. I remember being teased mercilessly about my family being hippies, and I at least looked like the other kids, even if my parents didn't look like their parents.

[Milly-Molly-Mandy]

I think those who performed the autopsy would be able to tell if how he died, so I think it rules out him dying before hitting the water. Personally I think David is just as bad as Lauren.

QFT. With an autopsy they can tell if the child drowned by the water in the lungs-if the child is alive at the time of drowning the child 'breaths in' water. Obviously if the child is dead that would not happen.

[wild little fox]

I found her entries about the baby's death disturbing because she is so disconnected. I do not see her grieving.

My dog had epilepsy. He was in trouble, I was away, and my parents let him outside. He drowned in my neighbor's pond. I was so mad I didn't talk to my folks for days and our relationship was strained for a long time after. I was so grief stricken that I was in bed for two weeks.

Granted this is me and I'm not her, but I didn't lose a baby I carried for nine months and fed at my breast and loved.

I noticed that others her picked up on Elijah's biting her that day. I thought it was odd that she mentioned it in two entries.

Her disconnection really worries me!

[happy atheist]

She's posting like crazy. There are 2 more new entries up.

When she says

This new spot that we are parked is probably the best camp-site in this national park. We’re in Bay 34, on the western side of the designated day-use picnic area, separated from the water by only a picnic table.

do you think that the bay she's talking about is the body of water, or their actual campsite number? Either way, I think she's giving too much information about their location to a world full of strangers. It's like she's saying, "Hey, pedophiles - we are here!"

[heidi]

The girls were so chuffed with my costume that it makes me wonder if I don’t usually participate so eagerly in their games.

Well, according to the girls, you're usually on the computer, so that would be a no.

[August]

Well, according to the girls, you're usually on the computer, so that would be a no.

According to the videos, too.

Did she edit the account of Elijah's last day? It doesn't say he bit her anymore, just that she felt he had a new tooth. Damn those new teeth are sharp! I forgot in between #1and #2.

[lilith]

She's fiddled with the posts of that period many times.