fundie dad offended by Kwanzaa, Jamie Fox, and yoga

[Bloo]

Plenty of people wave their arms around for exercise. Has this dude never seen a dance class?

[Sobeknofret]

I first heard about it in the early 90's when I was in college. I think it might have been in a cultural anthro class, but I didn't know anyone personally who celebrated it, and still don't actually.

[loveandwar]

I heard about Kwanzaa in elementary school in the 90's. The school was a public school in suburbia Utah so I consider it to be sheltered.

As did I, and I went to a very small Christian school in the South. This guy's crazy.

[miffy]

I'm about to leave for yoga, on a sunday! The devil hasn't entered my body & i'm still very much a Christian.

Western yoga is exercise! My Hindu & Sikh friends say that in India its more of a health science than a part of their religion.

[NjoyingNsanity]

I wish you would! Except we all know not to feed the fundies... it just makes them more righteous.

Well I just had to point it out to him, his reply "Shh don't tell anyone or they change it to Happy ___days." I then just had to point out that X was an abbreviation of Christos that medieval monks used frequently, and that only recently has it been misunderstood to be a sign of disrespect or taking Christ out of Christmas. I'm not even going to try to point out that Christmas is the Christianization of the Pagan holiday Yule.

[miffy]

This is why some Quakers do not celebrate Christmas, Easter and such...because every day is a Holy Day!

Lots of my ancestors were Quakers. I think its an amazing branch of Christianity & will probably join a meeting at some point in my life.

I think they represent more of what Christianity(obviously I don't mean the liberal agnostic quakers) is supposed to be than any of these wacked out evangelicals.

[miffy]

As did I, and I went to a very small Christian school in the South. This guy's crazy.

I went to an Anglican school in Australia & knew about it in the 90s.

[BravaAmica]

Hell, Sandra Lee's infamous Kwanzaa cake episode is at least 8 years old.

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I can't be the only one here who thinks that Sandra Lee's Kwanza cake is a big FUCK YOU to Kwanza. Canned apple pie filing? Corn nuts? And then she sticks tapers on it?! That's what she thinks of Kwanza?

/end rant

[JesusFightClub]

These people dont seem to understand, its the thought that counts, whatever people say, whether its for a religious holiday, or just happy holidays in general, it means exactly the same thing-theyre wishing the best for you.

QFT!

I do not particularly like or get on with humanity in general (a common myth about leftists is that we all loooove humanity and think everyone's secretly a saint). But even I, if I said "Merry Christmas!" when I was a Christian and was greeted with "Happy Holidays!" in return, would think "Aw, that was nice. That person took the trouble to greet me from their belief, or even if they were told what to say, they did it. I consider that a kind act from them."

I’m offended by a photograph winning an award that depicts a crucifix submerged in a glass of urine

This also annoys the heck out of me. Not only was Andre Serrano trying to make a point about the troubles he has with his Catholic background, the piece itself I found strangely moving and beautiful. The colours are lovely and the contrast between the stark message and the golden glow is really something to think about (I'm no art critic but I would have no hesitation to hang this on my wall).

Also, that artwork dates from 1987. That's over 20 years ago. If you're still being offended by that now you need a life.

[ladyamylynn]

I'm just loving the visual of Jamie Foxx doing yoga on Kwanzaa. Possibly while wearing some kind of funny hat, just cause.

[gardenvarietycitizen]

I'm just loving the visual of Jamie Foxx doing yoga on Kwanzaa. Possibly while wearing some kind of funny hat, just cause.

A Santa hat, maybe, so we can bring in the complaining about commercialism and how the secular "red and green" is blasphemy because the real holiday is all about Jeebus?

[JeanneD]

Her Hanukkah one is even worse. It's just. so. terrible. foodnetworkhumor.com/2010/08/sandra-lees-other-abomination-the-hanukkah-cake/

[Nothing2CHere]

OK, this person needs to be sent this graphic that's been making the rounds on mine and several friends' Facebook pages:

[Arete]

I can't be the only one here who thinks that Sandra Lee's Kwanza cake is a big FUCK YOU to Kwanza. Canned apple pie filing? Corn nuts? And then she sticks tapers on it?! That's what she thinks of Kwanza?

/end rant

Sandra Lee's shows are all a big FUCK YOU to the art of cooking. The woman is the swine, the abomination, and the mouse of the Food Channel.

[Sunnichick31]

Ok someone needs to get this guy an anti-rage pill. Happy holidays is not persecution. Kwanzaa is not out to destroy Christmas.

(I do agree about the Jesus statue thing, but for a different reason. It offends me that some atheist group from Wisconsin thinks that they can control what happens in my home state. Go the hell back to WI and leave Montana for the Montanans! The case was going to be thrown out until they went and found 1 montanan who was offended by it in order to keep the case from being dismissed. So yea. I'm more offended by the out of state foundation than i am the Jesus statue, and believe it or not, if I were back home, I would be fighting to keep the statue and if it is removed I will be pissed!!)

[bbfreethinker]

I’m offended by Kwanzaa. It’s a made up holiday that was created because Santa is too white. An African professor at Cal State Long Beach created it in 1966 as a response to the Watts riots to, in his words, “bring African-Americans together as a community.†Kwanzaa doesn’t “bring togetherâ€; it separates. And why haven’t we heard about it until the past five years? And why does it just happen to be at the same time as Christmas? It's an alternative to the true celebration of Christ’s birth. And I’m offended by it.

Well, I'm offended by Christmas because it was made up by some guys in the 5th century to get people to think about Jesus in December. And why does it just happen to be at the same time as Yule and Saturnalia. It's an alternative to the true celebration of the solstice.

[galaxygirl]

Sandra Lee's shows are all a big FUCK YOU to the art of cooking. The woman is the swine, the abomination, and the mouse of the Food Channel.

The only thing Sandra Lee takes seriously is her booze.

Kwanzaa was also mentioned in the SNL song 'Dick in a Box', which aired for the first time in '06.

[Deleted07]

Here's a good one -

[Avalondaughter]

Here's a good one -

I used to advocate for saying Merry Christmas" if that's your holiday because it is a wish of good cheer. I have changed my mind.

I once read a great quote by a Jewish guy who once said something like, "Sure I appreciate the sentiment when you wish me a Merry Christmas, but it's like being wished a Happy Birthday on someone else's birthday."

I have come to relate to that in reverse. People often mistake me for Jewish since my name is Rachel, I have a Germanic last name, and I have dark Mediterranean features. People who don't bother to find out otherwise wish me Happy Hanukkah. It feels weird to me. It al ost feels fraudulent to be accepting the greeting. I might have a happy day on Hanukkah, but not because I'm celebrating Hanukkah. It feels a bit insensitive that people don't want to bother finding out who I am.

That makes me realize just how hard it is for non-Christians to deal with being told Merry Christmas. Why should they feel obliged to accept a greeting for a holiday they don't celebrate?

[celestial]

OK, this person needs to be sent this graphic that's been making the rounds on mine and several friends' Facebook pages:

It's a nice sentiment, but I have a question about it: why does it say "If you are African-American/Canadian, wish me a joyous Kwanzaa." I don't really know the origins of Kwanzaa, did it start in Canada or something? In any case, I don't think most Canadians celebrate Kwanzaa, which is what the graphic seems to imply. Maybe whoever created it was confused because Boxing Day is celebrated in Canada (but not the US) and is on 12/26, the same day as the start of Kwanzaa?

[darareaksmey]

This guy has totally been under a rock if he truly thinks Kwanzaa just came about in the last few years. I know it's been celebrated in my majority AA area for most of the 20 years I've lived here. In fact, in the last year or two, there have been articles in the newspaper talking about the decline of the celebration locally.

[Sinister Rouge]

It's a nice sentiment, but I have a question about it: why does it say "If you are African-American/Canadian, wish me a joyous Kwanzaa." I don't really know the origins of Kwanzaa, did it start in Canada or something? In any case, I don't think most Canadians celebrate Kwanzaa, which is what the graphic seems to imply. Maybe whoever created it was confused because Boxing Day is celebrated in Canada (but not the US) and is on 12/26, the same day as the start of Kwanzaa?

I think they meant "if you are African American/ African Canadian, but in the interest of brevity they just worded it poorly.

[JoanHolloway]

It's a nice sentiment, but I have a question about it: why does it say "If you are African-American/Canadian, wish me a joyous Kwanzaa." I don't really know the origins of Kwanzaa, did it start in Canada or something? In any case, I don't think most Canadians celebrate Kwanzaa, which is what the graphic seems to imply. Maybe whoever created it was confused because Boxing Day is celebrated in Canada (but not the US) and is on 12/26, the same day as the start of Kwanzaa?

Kwanzaa's not as huge here as it is in the states, but I know some people who do celebrate it. I think the image maker included that so as to not exclude African Canadians.

[celestial]

I think they meant "if you are African American/ African Canadian, but in the interest of brevity they just worded it poorly.

Ah, thank you! Now I get what the writer was trying to say. I just couldn't get it to make sense, no matter how many times I read it, lol :doh:

[OnceModestTwiceShy]

Guys, this dude blogs under the title of "no greater joy dad". I'm assuming that's a reference to the Pearls' NGJ, which means he identifies himself first and foremost as a man who beats babies. Not really that shocked that he's got rage issues.