Jill's Neverending Pregnancy Part 6 - Push Jill PUSH

[quiversR4hunting]

The problem with being an "expert" on normal anything is that you are completely untrained to see the subtle signs of abnormal until it reaches the point where major intervention is needed. So instead of going to the hospital to get on continuous monitoring and pitocin drip because baby's heart rate isn't that bad but seems to be trending that way so let's move things along just in case, you end up rushing your patient to the hospital because you can't find the fetal heart rate at all with your doppler and they end up having to do a crash c-section to get that baby out and rushed to the NICU, all because what for hours you brushed off as "variations of normal" were actually subtle signs that things might go bad. If all you know is normal, you are, by definition, not an expert. (And 100s of births is NOTHING considering how birth complications are measured per 10/100,000.)

But let's move on because the homebirth debate is often about ideology more than anything and arguing religion is rather pointless.

I'm starting to think that Dilly is already here and they're keeping it quiet for a big reveal after tomorrow's episode. Remember how they managed to keep Jill/Derrick's courtship quiet for so long? These people can keep a secret when they want to.

-to the bold - I've been wondering that since the ambulance. but then photos have surfaced with her pregnant (everything on the internet is true, right? :roll: ) but then again we know that TLC fudges timelines! I keep debating with myself I they could actually pull off being "late" but actually have the baby.

Right now I am in the camp that they couldn't fake it this long. Ask me tomorrow, I may be swayed again to the other side. 8-)

[LongDogMom]

If a hospital birth is good enough for Michelle, I wonder why the girls see it differently? And I would hope that with any signs of trouble, J/D have a solid back-up plan in place.

I could see Jessa wanting a hospital birth but I think Jill, having experienced midwives doing their job and assisting, wants that same experience. That makes sense.

[Quiverfull of cats]

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!!

so I have been searching and a ll I see is that Jenna Bush Hager is pregnant

and that Jessa posted a picture of Marcus dancing to music

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH JILL - no news nothing from DERICK or Jill

Although #Benthewriter posted that Jesus is a liar

Big surprise Ben - you need a spanking

SO HOW MANY DAYS SHE IS OVERDUE

14 DAYS OVERDUE

she has two week child inside her

Actually she's 13 days past her due date of March 24th today. But who's counting at this point? She will hit 42 weeks tomorrow.

[Coconut Flan]

Is Jill's midwife in Siloam Springs? Otherwise it's doubtful they'd head that way for a hospital.

[FlamingFundie]

Except for the odd cat torture video, etc., Jill and Derick have done everything right. If the baby is so late that Jill requires hospitalization or whatever, will they take this as a sign that God is not pleased?

To be worried about THAT on top of everything else right now would be too much for me, frankly. I'd be running away and joining the circus.

FREE DILLY

No, they wouldn't sat God is displeased. They would say that God was teaching them something like patience or to have faith in his timing or something. It's all a test. Because God is just waiting for someone to fail.

[seveneightnine]

When I had my first son I started bleeding internally and I was in a hospital with a specialist and they still didn't know what was wrong until the area where the blood vessels had burst and started gushing blood burst through the vaginal wall and they rushed me into surgery, telling my husband that at that point there was so much blood loss it wasn't a sure thing I'd make it. Stuff happens that you don't expect.

This kind of thing happened to me after my VBAC, except when they eventually found the bleeding they diagnosed a uterine rupture since I'd had a c-section with my first. When they opened me up to fix it, it turned out my uterus was fine. The bleeding was coming from elsewhere and they're still not sure why it happened.

It was a textbook pregnancy with spontaneous labour at 39+5 and an uncomplicated delivery. Other than the previous c-section I had no trouble and was not considered high-risk. I still nearly died as a result and I can't imagine what would have happened if I hadn't been at the hospital when it started. I wish Jill all the best but the longer this goes on the more nervous I am for her.

[nst]

Actually she's 13 days past her due date of March 24th today. But who's counting at this point? She will hit 42 weeks tomorrow.

what the hell do I know anyway

[nst]

No, they wouldn't sat God is displeased. They would say that God was teaching them something like patience or to have faith in his timing or something. It's all a test. Because God is just waiting for someone to fail.

if and when baby dilly is born and all soothed

I wonder what Derick and Jill will say on camera about how late the baby is

because eventually he will be born and they will be happy

I wonder if they will sit on the sofa on camera and say their true feelings or sit on the sofa and just be life is precious --goodness he has us worried

I hope we see the second part - it would be real andI would believe her more

[lascuba]

-to the bold - I've been wondering that since the ambulance. but then photos have surfaced with her pregnant (everything on the internet is true, right? :roll: ) but then again we know that TLC fudges timelines! I keep debating with myself I they could actually pull off being "late" but actually have the baby.

Right now I am in the camp that they couldn't fake it this long. Ask me tomorrow, I may be swayed again to the other side. 8-)

Oh, I don't think he was born that long ago if he has been born. More like sometime between Saturday night and early this morning.

[Quiverfull of cats]

what the hell do I know anyway

Well it feels like she's at least 14 days overdue. This is what happens when a pregnancy is announced as soon as they take the home pregnancy test. It seems like she has been pregnant for a year. I read that Jenna Bush Hager is already 20 weeks along and I just read her announcement today. I hope Jessa takes that route and not Jill's if/when she announces a pregnancy. Wait until it's close to half over before telling the public.

[nst]

http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20913143,00.html

people magazine posted a video

nothing new :D

[bringonthetrumpets]

The problem with being an "expert" on normal anything is that you are completely untrained to see the subtle signs of abnormal until it reaches the point where major intervention is needed. So instead of going to the hospital to get on continuous monitoring and pitocin drip because baby's heart rate isn't that bad but seems to be trending that way so let's move things along just in case, you end up rushing your patient to the hospital because you can't find the fetal heart rate at all with your doppler and they end up having to do a crash c-section to get that baby out and rushed to the NICU, all because what for hours you brushed off as "variations of normal" were actually subtle signs that things might go bad. If all you know is normal, you are, by definition, not an expert. (And 100s of births is NOTHING considering how birth complications are measured per 10/100,000.)

But let's move on because the homebirth debate is often about ideology more than anything and arguing religion is rather pointless.

You are right. I can't argue with those who haven't actually been to a homebirth or have any actual notion of what we do (as how can they actually know until they've been there?). All I can do is to continue to defend it against claims that we are incompetent. Much like the statement you've made. So thanks for that and pointing out that you, indeed, have no idea.

[SassyPants]

I do not think that people are questioning every home birth or home birth in general, but rather since we have seen limited examples of Jill's care, we wonder about the treatment options and back-up plan in place, in case of emergency, in Jill's case.

I trust the judgment of most medical professionals, I hope that Jill's care givers are competent and are giving she and Derick good, sound, medical advice.

[halcionne]

No baby news as of 24 minutes ago...

http://www.duggarfamilyblog.com/2015/04 ... -vows.html

Dang, kid.

I know think this blog is run by insiders, but they aren't usually the speediest updaters, just sayin.

[lascuba]

Oh, sweetie. Nice try, but it's easy enough to find the education and certifying requirements per state for lay midwives.

[grandmadugger]

We didn't make it to Part 7 - Free Dilly and for that I'm shocked. I'm not shocked that we don't have a baby. I think we've all been punked.

[halcionne]

If a hospital birth is good enough for Michelle, I wonder why the girls see it differently? And I would hope that with any signs of trouble, J/D have a solid back-up plan in place.

Because this family likes to pretend that they are individuals who make their own decisions and don't have to do things the way their parents did. They don't get a lot of opportunities to demonstrate it, so this could be one. I hope Jill isn't clinging to homebirth as an FU internetz, but we're not quite at that point yet, and now there's talk of hospital sightings, so.

I feel like that's why Jessa goes on and on about adoption, too.

[LogansMama]

I'm starting to think we shouldn't be surprised there's no baby announcement. These two managed to keep their courtship and engagement a secret.

[karen77]

Well it feels like she's at least 14 days overdue. This is what happens when a pregnancy is announced as soon as they take the home pregnancy test. It seems like she has been pregnant for a year. I read that Jenna Bush Hager is already 20 weeks along and I just read her announcement today. I hope Jessa takes that route and not Jill's if/when she announces a pregnancy. Wait until it's close to half over before telling the public.

Problem for Jill though, she coudln't have hidden a 20 week pregnancy if she tried!! Alyssa was tiny, so no problem. Jenna Bush-Hager doesn't' have people watching her uterus like a hawk the same way, so easier to hide.

[Smchugh1304]

I'm starting to think we shouldn't be surprised there's no baby announcement. These two managed to keep their courtship and engagement a secret.

I think you're right LogansMama. Just because DuggarFamilyBlog says there was no announcement doesn't necessarily mean there's no baby yet. We haven't seen Jill since Saturday (although the 41+4 days photo could be set up - taken a while back)

[tulip]

I'm starting to think we shouldn't be surprised there's no baby announcement. These two managed to keep their courtship and engagement a secret.

I totally get what you're saying, but then why would they announce that she's pregnant the minute they find out? It just seems pointless for them to keep the birth a secret. Now if she did give birth and there were major complications, I could see them keeping it under wraps until things are better. But then again, everyone knew about Josie's birth that day. :shrug:

[Alachantal]

I was talking to my mum about Baby Dilly (not that she cares, she just explains pregnancy stuff to me) and she told me the last time she was pregnant (over 20 years ago) that they didn't induce til you were over a month past due. :shock: I know obviously this changed considering a friend of mine had her 3rd baby the exact same day as Anna had Marcus (and my friends baby is named Marcus too) and was a day off from being induced. I think she was 2 weeks over due? Her baby ended up getting terribly ill by catching something (I think it was TB? I can't remember to be honest) just from being born in hospital and spent most of his first year in and out of hospitals trying to find it. (They did and he's okay now, thank God, but that's how I remeber this baby so well because we were really praying for him to make it.)

I hope Jill can have a good birth, whatever makes her happy. As long as baby is healthy. But whatever it is, just fucking hurry up about it! Lol

[Lucy H]

The problem with being an "expert" on normal anything is that you are completely untrained to see the subtle signs of abnormal until it reaches the point where major intervention is needed. So instead of going to the hospital to get on continuous monitoring and pitocin drip because baby's heart rate isn't that bad but seems to be trending that way so let's move things along just in case, you end up rushing your patient to the hospital because you can't find the fetal heart rate at all with your doppler and they end up having to do a crash c-section to get that baby out and rushed to the NICU, all because what for hours you brushed off as "variations of normal" were actually subtle signs that things might go bad. If all you know is normal, you are, by definition, not an expert. (And 100s of births is NOTHING considering how birth complications are measured per 10/100,000.)

But let's move on because the homebirth debate is often about ideology more than anything and arguing religion is rather pointless.

I'm starting to think that Dilly is already here and they're keeping it quiet for a big reveal after tomorrow's episode. Remember how they managed to keep Jill/Derrick's courtship quiet for so long? These people can keep a secret when they want to.

Is agree with all of the above.

After TLC announced last Tuesday that there would be a homebirth special in May they have have told the Duggars to STFU. If they have a contract with TLC and Peopele, those corporations do not want random people putting out details that belong to them..

I am also beginning to think the baby is here and they are just keeping quiet. On the other hand, I am sure many people are keeping their eyes on the Dillard mansion and would have noticed if the birth happened. They would have seen many people coming and going, midwives, family, TLC, etc. Who knows at this point and soon no one will care.

[Closed Womb]

To be totally fair, unless I'm totally screwing up time zones, she's still got 50 minutes...

Since neither she nor Derick had reported any hint of labor, I thought it was safe to call it with 50 minutes left.

But, tbh, if she had (or does) experienced a 50 minute labor, from start to finish, I might jump on the bandwagon that's calling her God's special snowflake.

[bringonthetrumpets]

Oh, sweetie. Nice try, but it's easy enough to find the education and certifying requirements per state for lay midwives.

:lol: I like that you called me "sweetie". So endearing.

Again, look up the definition of "lay" and then tell me if you're actually a midwife or not because if you're not, then you have no idea.