Duggars and disney

[ambertheprincess]

Are the duggar's allowed to watch certain disney movies but not others? Recently, Jill and Derick went to see Cinderella on Broadway. Also Mackenzie has been seen in a purple Rapunzel dress. So I feel like the old ones are approved but those made after the 60s are not. And here is why.

 

Cinderella: When you think about it, Cinderella could have left her stepmothers house whenever she wanted to. But she didn't without even questioning leaving. It shows contentment Also it shows that you can't leave until you marry and that is the only way you will leave. When you think about it she is the fundies princess to look up to.

 

Snow White, rapunzel and all other early princess movies: something bad happens, man saves the day, as it is supposed to be in there world.

 

I feel like those are the only ones allowed. All other disney princesses are free thinking and successful on there own. They would not allow for them to see tangled, or Mulan, or Aladdin. All of those girls defied authority. Princess Tiana and all of the other independent disney role models are problably banned.

 

It hurts me to know that the children are being deprived of normal childhood things and it bothers me that Michelle and Jim bob thinks it's a good thing

[CorruptionInc.]

Are the duggar's allowed to watch certain disney movies but not others? Recently, Jill and Derick went to see Cinderella on Broadway. Also Mackenzie has been seen in a purple Rapunzel dress. So I feel like the old ones are approved but those made after the 60s are not. And here is why.

Cinderella: When you think about it, Cinderella could have left her stepmothers house whenever she wanted to. But she didn't without even questioning leaving. It shows contentment Also it shows that you can't leave until you marry and that is the only way you will leave. When you think about it she is the fundies princess to look up to.

Snow White, rapunzel and all other early princess movies: something bad happens, man saves the day, as it is supposed to be in there world.

I feel like those are the only ones allowed. All other disney princesses are free thinking and successful on there own. They would not allow for them to see tangled, or Mulan, or Aladdin. All of those girls defied authority. Princess Tiana and all of the other independent disney role models are problably banned.

It hurts me to know that the children are being deprived of normal childhood things and it bothers me that Michelle and Jim bob thinks it's a good thing

Pretty sure that Derick taking Jill to see Cinderella was her first ever experience of Disney.

[SassyPants]

The Ds went to Disneyland when they visited CA in their first series.

[PennySycamore]

The Ds went to Disneyland when they visited CA in their first series.

Yes, they did, but they couldn't meet Jasmine (from Aladin) or Ariel from the The Little Mermaid. Their costumes would be too "Nike!" They may have met some of the other (older) Princesses though. What got me is that they spent only about half a day in Disneyland. I'm not sure if the kids got to do anything fun either.

I'd disagree that Cinderella could leave anytime she wanted. Theoretically, maybe, but not practically. Cinderella was just as trapped as CinderJana is.

I don't know how the Duggars would cope with all that pesky magic that keeps happening in Disney movies: Snow White, Cinderalla, Pinocchio, Sleeping Beauty, Peter Pan, even Mary Poppins.

[nastyhobbitses]

Are the duggar's allowed to watch certain disney movies but not others? Recently, Jill and Derick went to see Cinderella on Broadway. Also Mackenzie has been seen in a purple Rapunzel dress. So I feel like the old ones are approved but those made after the 60s are not. And here is why.

Cinderella: When you think about it, Cinderella could have left her stepmothers house whenever she wanted to. But she didn't without even questioning leaving. It shows contentment Also it shows that you can't leave until you marry and that is the only way you will leave. When you think about it she is the fundies princess to look up to.

Snow White, rapunzel and all other early princess movies: something bad happens, man saves the day, as it is supposed to be in there world.

I feel like those are the only ones allowed. All other disney princesses are free thinking and successful on there own. They would not allow for them to see tangled, or Mulan, or Aladdin. All of those girls defied authority. Princess Tiana and all of the other independent disney role models are problably banned.

It hurts me to know that the children are being deprived of normal childhood things and it bothers me that Michelle and Jim bob thinks it's a good thing

I really want to smuggle Tangled, Frozen, Mulan, and Princess and the Frog to the girls. I especially think Jana would relate to Elsa (oldest sister, feels like she can't express her true feelings for fear of being ostracized or hurting everyone else, giving up everything that made her happy for her younger sister).

[CorruptionInc.]

The Ds went to Disneyland when they visited CA in their first series.

Oh yes! I forgot about this! I'm a bit airheaded sometimes! :?

[Eviesmom]

If I remember correctly there was an episode where the kids were watching Bambi and a lost girl (Hannie maybe?) was scared of the part when Bambi's mom dies, so that means they've at least seen that one.

[HarleyQuinn]

Didn't J'chelle mention her kids watching Dumbo at one point too?

[Zasha]

I've always wondered how they were ok with going to Disneyland since so much of their beliefs are all about contentment. I can't imagine the magic and fantasy would be ok with them. The fact that they spent 1/2 day in the park and were special guests that got a ton of free stuff leads me to believe they had a cast member escort onto a few simple rides. I cannot imagine them letting their children meet any face characters. Did they even meet Mickey? I can't remember. If they did, I hope there weren't any other kids around. I feel like they're the type of people that wouldn't hesitate to ruin the magic for anyone around them by loudly explaining that this isn't real and it's not ok to fantasize and blah blah blah. I'm a Disney parks fanatic and I can think of only a very few things in Walt Disney World that they wouldn't have problems with.

[TXGirlInAMaterialWorld]

I don't know about the Duggars' views on Disney- but when I was growing up we watched zero cartoons and Disney movies that had magic in them. Anything related to magic was considered the occult.

Even the toys we had were closely monitored. We were allowed to have Cabbage Patch Kids, but Care Bears or any other cartoon character toys were an absolute no-no.

We never had a TV in our house but did occassionally see old movies at church, relatives home and movie nights at the City Park and Library. City movie nights always a HUGE occassion for us kids because you would get tickets for popcorn and candy by completing book reports. Movies like Little Women and Old Yeller were okay, but I remember being so upset that we were not allowed to go see White Christmas or Will Wonka.

I know that several of my fundie relatives will not allow their kids to watch Veggie Tales because it's "unnatural" for vegetables to talk and they don't want it to confuse their children. That just doesn't make any sense to me.....

[lisa_m]

I think there are two possible reasons for why talking animals are seen as bad. One, it seems kind of magical and other worldly. Two, it might be thought that talking animals don't exist because God doesn't want them to exist, so watching a movie with talking animals means you are watching something that God doesn't want to exist.

The Duggar kids are not allowed to watch Dumbo. Bambi is the only Disney movie they have seen.

[BrownieMomma]

Are the duggar's allowed to watch certain disney movies but not others? Recently, Jill and Derick went to see Cinderella on Broadway. Also Mackenzie has been seen in a purple Rapunzel dress.

I've never heard of Jim Bob and Michelle specifically talking about Disney, however all my experience with conservative Christians of many stripes is that they don't do Disney. All that magic and "good" isn't credited to God, among other complaints.

What strikes me as so highly ironic is that you ask if the Duggars are allowed to watch Disney movies then you talk about the married adult Duggars lol.

I'm so cynical of everything the Duggars do, it would not surprise me if that Cinderella thing was TLC-engineered rather than Derick actually doing something to surprise his bride and culturally expand her world.

It also would not surprise me if one of Anna's more worldly sisters sent Mac that princess dress. I've encountered this a lot, some relative who is not near as fundie sends the kid some toy like TMNJ and the parents allow it for a little while then the toy quietly disappears. The parent doesn't want to appear rude to the relative, sometimes the gift is given in such a way that the parents can't or don't intercept, and then the kid wants it. It's much more a scene to take it away right then, so the toy just disappears a week later.

[Cats B4 Quivers]

It makes me sad that the Duggar kids can't watch a Disney movie, other than Bambi. I adored watching Disney movies and would become irate whenever Sunday football pre-emptied Wide World of Disney. All except "Fox and Hound" movie. That made me cry and as far as 10 year old me is concerned, it can go to hell.

Not even the "Shaggy Dog" movie? That was hella fun. Same with "That Darned Cat". I bet J'uterus would flip her wig if she ever got a hold of the "3 lives of Thomasina" ( I think that is the title? A bewitched talking, Scottish cat! Awesome stuff!).

[Mabel]

To be fair, Cinderella on Broadway is not Disney's version of it. Honestly I think the Jill and Derek might have gotten tickets from the show to get some promotion of it out there. The show has been low on ticket sales and is closing soon, so they want as many people to see it as possible. But anyway, it is sad the kids never got to see Disney movies growing up. Personally Disney has been a huge part of growing up for me. I think I saw either on the show or social media one of them reference Sid from Ice Age though. Though I don't see them being allowed to watch that either so maybe it was Ben.

[RabbitKM]

How do you know that they saw Cinderella on Bway? Just wondering.

Also, Mac's princess dress could have been bought with out her even seeing the movie or knowing who the princess was. Maybe she just thought, ooo pretty dress, and Anna let her buy it, but not in the context of dressing up as a Disney character.

[Coco]

I don't know about the Duggars' views on Disney- but when I was growing up we watched zero cartoons and Disney movies that had magic in them. Anything related to magic was considered the occult.

Even the toys we had were closely monitored. We were allowed to have Cabbage Patch Kids, but Care Bears or any other cartoon character toys were an absolute no-no.

We never had a TV in our house but did occassionally see old movies at church, relatives home and movie nights at the City Park and Library. City movie nights always a HUGE occassion for us kids because you would get tickets for popcorn and candy by completing book reports. Movies like Little Women and Old Yeller were okay, but I remember being so upset that we were not allowed to go see White Christmas or Will Wonka.

I know that several of my fundie relatives will not allow their kids to watch Veggie Tales because it's "unnatural" for vegetables to talk and they don't want it to confuse their children. That just doesn't make any sense to me.....

and then the other end of the spectrum: some of my childhood friends' parents turned Star Wars into an entire analogy --and these were people who had become fundie! It was a BIG deal to them. I just don't think their dad was able to give it up, so they made it about good vs. evil.

But really did any of us as kids think talking animals was actually possible? Children are so much smarter than fundies will admit! Fundie parents are terrible for restricting their kids' imaginations. They take childhood wonder right away from them. So sad.

[Anny Nym]

But really did any of us as kids think talking animals was actually possible? Children are so much smarter than fundies will admit! Fundie parents are terrible for restricting their kids' imaginations. They take childhood wonder right away from them. So sad.

QFT x 1000 times!

And you take away a big part of their specific cultural roots. Every culture knows tales, that include "acting" animals.

Not wanting to derail the thread as it is assigned to the case of Disney and Duggars...

But I wonder now, as most famous Disney movies are derivated from classic folk fairy tales as Grimm´s and H.C. Andersen or are taking a lean to the centuries´old classic Aesp´s Fables:

Does folk literature and children´s classics have absolutely no place in the "fundieverse" ?

[Becket70]

What ever happened to "Suspension of Disbelief" while watching any film, including talking animals in Disney? Isn't that the point of a lot of films. You suspend disbelief, logic, etc. for a couple of hours and just enjoy the film. Sometimes it seems that JB doesn't want his children to enjoy anything most other people enjoy. I guess it is his way of control but it is sad.

[BrownieMomma]

What ever happened to "Suspension of Disbelief" while watching any film, including talking animals in Disney? Isn't that the point of a lot of films. You suspend disbelief, logic, etc. for a couple of hours and just enjoy the film. Sometimes it seems that JB doesn't want his children to enjoy anything most other people enjoy. I guess it is his way of control but it is sad.

That's awfully close to suspending belief in a God you cannot see, hear, smell or touch.

I think that is the root of a lot of fundies who do not do the tooth fairy or santa or disney or whatever. Somewhere in there, they realize that the "it's just a story' nature of stories can be applied to Bible stories too.

[Bluenoser]

The Duggar kids are not allowed to watch Dumbo. Bambi is the only Disney movie they have seen.

I'm curious as to why Bambi is the only acceptable Disney movie for them? The animals do talk, but maybe it's because there are only implied humans, and you don't ever actually see one interacting with the talking animals? Or perhaps it's Bambi's strong relatable values, male deer having the freedom and governance over the forest and female deer get to hide in the thicket and pop out babies.

[Four is Enough]

I'm betting Jim Bob and Michelle both watched a lot of Disney movies as children. WHy would they keep that from their own children? Thinking of this sort of thing makes my head hurt. It is difficult to understand the real scope of the limits put upon the Duggar children.. and yes, even the adult ones, who MAY just now be seeing the wonder of what they missed in their childhoods.

[Toothfairy]

What's wrong with talking animals? What's wrong with fairytales? The duggars teach their kids fairytales and lies. So what's the difference with Disney

[PennySycamore]

It makes me sad that the Duggar kids can't watch a Disney movie, other than Bambi. I adored watching Disney movies and would become irate whenever Sunday football pre-emptied Wide World of Disney. All except "Fox and Hound" movie. That made me cry and as far as 10 year old me is concerned, it can go to hell.

Not even the "Shaggy Dog" movie? That was hella fun. Same with "That Darned Cat". I bet J'uterus would flip her wig if she ever got a hold of the "3 lives of Thomasina" ( I think that is the title? A bewitched talking, Scottish cat! Awesome stuff!).

I love the part of The Three Live of Thomasina where she goes up the stairs to cat heaven and sees the cat god. That would blow the Duggars' minds. There's also Lorrie, the "Mad Witch of the Glen" who is really not a "witch" but a healer. (For all I know, Lorrie may have held to some of the old ways, but that is beside the point.) Healers were believed to be witches once.

FWIW, Thomasina is available on youtube or at least was. The same can be said for The Ugly Dachshund and, IIRC, That Darn Cat.

[browncoatslytherin]

i can't speak for the duggars, but in our fundie house, disney movies were allowed but some weren't. stuff like the lion king was discouraged (because of the whole "circle of life" thing) and tarzan (because of a line in of the songs talking about "son of man" or something like that). fern gully was definitely banned. anything with witches had to portray the witches as definitely bad people because witches were bad. anything out of the "christian" realm had to come with a christian explanation, like "well we know god really would have approved of xyz" or something like that. but, despite that, i got to see quite a few disney movies and i loved the princesses. so, maybe they are letting them watch some movies and just monitoring so they can sneak in the "christian values".

[PennySycamore]

To be fair, Cinderella on Broadway is not Disney's version of it. Honestly I think the Jill and Derek might have gotten tickets from the show to get some promotion of it out there. The show has been low on ticket sales and is closing soon, so they want as many people to see it as possible. But anyway, it is sad the kids never got to see Disney movies growing up. Personally Disney has been a huge part of growing up for me. I think I saw either on the show or social media one of them reference Sid from Ice Age though. Though I don't see them being allowed to watch that either so maybe it was Ben.

Is the version of Cinderella out now the Rodgers and Hammerstein version? In the original production on TV, Julie Andrews played Cinderella. About 10 years later, a new TV production was mounted with Leslie Ann Warren as Cinderella and Stuart Damon as the Prince. I could remember that Pat Carroll played one of the stepsisters, but not that Ginger Rogers plated the Queen. (I used to see Pat all the time as a panelist on To Tell the Truth or something.) It was videotaped (which the '57 version was not) so it could be rebroadcast and it was in color. ETA: I still remember some of the songs from the '65 showing. In My Own Little Corner and Impossible/ It's Possible come to mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_(musical)#1965_version