Another birth control debate but looks at the igorance.

[doggie]

This is the quality of the GOP who make these laws

During a discussion over a resolution opposing the Obama plan, one GOP lawmaker said that birth control pills cause prostate cancer, while another proposed that married couples practice abstinence unless they are trying to conceive a child.

Saying it would reduce health insurance costs, the Tea Party-controlled New Hampshire House of Representatives passed a bill Wednesday afternoon to repeal the state mandate for employers to provide insurance coverage for contraception.

The House vote tacked an amendment to a seemingly minor bill related to the governance of religious societies to allow for employers to opt-out of the state mandate for contraception coverage if the employer has a religious objection to contraception. The amendment -- which was sponsored by the House's GOP leadership -- is being called a way to reduce health insurance costs for Granite State businesses.

"It is not about whether insurers choose to offer coverage for these services in their policies. This stands up for our religious institutions that have long-held principles and teachings under assault and for their religious liberties," Deputy House Speaker Pamela Tucker (R-Greenland) said in a statement. "Imposing anti-religious regulations on churches achieves no reduction of costs or availability of services, it only serves to please those pushing a political agenda."

"Health insurance costs in New Hampshire are increasing at dramatic rates. New Hampshire businesses are seeing 60 percent premium increases. A considerable portion of those increases can be chalked up to state health insurance mandates implemented during the prior four years' Democrat legislatures and those need to be repealed."

Tucker stressed that the amendment was not to debate the merits of contraception, but rather to discuss the mandate in terms of religious organizations. The wording of the amendment extends to all businesses in the state.

The amendment was not entirely surprising as Republican legislators have been discussing bringing up a way to end the 12-year-old law since last month. The New Hampshire House has been discussing the topic in relation to President Barack Obama's policy to require religious organizations to provide contraception coverage for employees.

During a discussion over a resolution opposing the Obama plan, one GOP lawmaker said that birth control pills cause prostate cancer, while another proposed that married couples practice abstinence unless they are trying to conceive a child.

House Majority Leader D.J. Bettencourt (R-Salem) said in a statement that the topic came up in the context of the federal health care reform law and a need for the state to promote "religious tolerance."

"This bill has sent a clear message that here in New Hampshire we value our citizens and employers right to religious liberties. New Hampshire has a long and proud history of religious tolerance, and with the passage of this bill we will continue to support and preserve that proud history."

Democrats immediately denounced the measure, noting that it would allow employers to decide medical care. Legislative Democrats were quick to point out that the mandate originally passed in 2000 under a Republican-controlled Legislature with the signature of then Gov. Jeanne Shaheen (D).

"My Republicans colleagues are using the banner of religious freedom as a way to mask their blatant attacks on women's health rights," state Rep. Chris Serlin (D-Portsmouth) said in a statement. "No entity or individual faces a restriction of their religious liberty under current insurance law. This bill would prevent women from making their own decisions about contraception."

The bill now moves to the state's GOP-controlled Senate, where it is expected to be considered in April. It is unclear if the Senate will follow the House in passage. Gov. John Lynch (D) is expected to veto the measure. While today's House vote does not have enough votes to override a Lynch veto -- with 59 GOP lawmakers voting against the measure, the House has had history of vote switching to override a Lynch veto.

"I never thought that in 2012 the New Hampshire Legislature would be debating the use of contraceptives. This issue is settled for Granite Staters," House Minority Leader Terie Norelli (D-Portsmouth) said in a statement.

"This out of touch agenda only goes to show that House Republicans are focused like a laser on social issues while jobs and the economy are left on the back burner. Unfortunately, this has been the story at the State House for the past fourteen months. Bills that would be laughed out of any living room in New Hampshire have strong support among Republicans in the State House."

[tropaka]

bc pills cause prostate cancer, eh? He must have been reading the stinking housewife.....why do I feel like I'm going backwards in time reading stuff like this

[Visionoyahweh]

The prostate cancer thing comes from there being more prostate cancer in countries there BC pills are more widely used.

Because correlation ALWAYS implies causation. :roll:

[shesinsane]

The House vote tacked an amendment to a seemingly minor bill related to the governance of religious societies to allow for employers to opt-out of the state mandate for contraception coverage if the employer has a religious objection to contraception. The amendment -- which was sponsored by the House's GOP leadership -- is being called a way to reduce health insurance costs for Granite State businesses.

Because maternity and pediatrician costs are sooooo much cheaper than contraception. :shock: Can no one in that legislature ignore party lines and think for themselves?

[YPestis]

My fiance noted the other day that all this debate about birth control, and the "controversy" surrounding its usage, are done by men. As a physician, he actually had to learn how BC pills work and he was getting frustrated that so many non-medical MEN were debating an issue they obviously knew little about.

Most women can tell you exactly what health related issues the BC medications can be used for. You think the average Catholic priest in front of Congress have sound understanding of the estrogen/progesterone affect on the ovulation cycle?

[doggie]

So my wife had a hysterectomy does she need her prostate checked? she is not sure.

[GeoBQn]

1. What the hell?

2. Aren't there some pills for men that actually do cause birth defects if a pregnant woman handles them without gloves? Where are the GOP reps calling to ban those pills?

[shesinsane]

1. What the hell?

2. Aren't there some pills for men that actually do cause birth defects if a pregnant woman handles them without gloves? Where are the GOP reps calling to ban those pills?

That would be Propecia.

If a woman who is pregnant with a male baby absorbs the active ingredient in PROPECIA, either by swallowing or through the skin, it may cause abnormalities of a male baby’s sex organs. If a woman who is pregnant comes into contact with the active ingredient in PROPECIA, a doctor should be consulted. PROPECIA tablets are coated and will prevent contact with the active ingredient during normal handling, provided that the tablets are not broken or crushed.

But they have to prioritize, and while the unborn are important, they aren't more important than hair loss. ;)

[ADoyle90815]

It's obvious that if Viagra were found to cause prostate cancer, nobody would call for it being banned, just as while they claim to favor the unborn, they don't ban Propecia since it can cause birth defects if a pregnant woman touches one without gloves.

[MarsGirl]

OMG. I want just want to pound some stupidity out of the heads of these Republican politicians. Prostate cancer? The lack of understanding of what a prostate is from a male politician just makes my head spin.

Btw, jack-offs, the pill actually helps reduce the risk of some forms of--get this, women's anatomy--ovarian cancer. That is, if you arent a smoker.

[YPestis]

Well, to be fair, a lot of people are ignorant of their body parts. I had one male patient tell me he just had a procedure done for his "cervical cancer".

[MarsGirl]

Well, to be fair, a lot of people are ignorant of their body parts. I had one male patient tell me he just had a procedure done for his "cervical cancer".

OMG. I dont think I would be able to keep a straight face... I'd seriously bust out in laughter if a guy said that to me. (I'm not a doctor, though.)

[slickcat79]

Well, to be fair, a lot of people are ignorant of their body parts. I had one male patient tell me he just had a procedure done for his "cervical cancer".

Yes, yes, stupid abounds, but you would hope that people working to pass legislation that affects thousands or millions of people could manage a couple minutes of googling first :shock:

In other news, I found an interesting campaign website today for an individual running for Senate in VA. I could get behind a similar candidate in many states:

http://www.hankforsenate.com/

This is Hank:

[NurseNell]

In other news, I found an interesting campaign website today for an individual running for Senate in VA. I could get behind a similar candidate in many states:

http://www.hankforsenate.com/

This is Hank:

I'd vote for Hank. Are we sure Hank isn't a girl? Doesn't the red around the face mean it's a tortie? Aren't tortie's always girls? OK, googled it, they are almost always female but there are rare males. Those males are sterile so Hank isn't going to care about birth control.

[Sola]

During a discussion over a resolution opposing the Obama plan, one GOP lawmaker said that birth control pills cause prostate cancer,

Dear Ignorant Fundie Lawmaker,

You are not supposed to shove the birth control pills down your dick, nor up your arse. They are for the woman to take, orally, in the same way that you take viagra.

KTHXBYE

[sippin0nsunshine]

Yes, yes, stupid abounds, but you would hope that people working to pass legislation that affects thousands or millions of people could manage a couple minutes of googling first :shock:

In other news, I found an interesting campaign website today for an individual running for Senate in VA. I could get behind a similar candidate in many states:

http://www.hankforsenate.com/

This is Hank:

If I lived in VA I'd vote for him! :o I wonder if PA has a similar candidate; If so I would gladly vote for him!

[MarsGirl]

I'm totally okay with cats ruling the world. :) I must admit mine runs my household.

[NurseNell]

I'm totally okay with cats ruling the world. :) I must admit mine runs my household.

Given that cats were worshipped as gods in Egypt, and they haven't forgotten, I would hope yours runs the household ;)

[Nothing2CHere]

Because maternity and pediatrician costs are sooooo much cheaper than contraception. :shock: Can no one in that legislature ignore party lines and think for themselves?

[dairyfreelife]

Reminds of this. Only need to watch the first 15 seconds of it though to get the point.

Fs9fmoEIlPs

[NurseNell]

Reminds of this. Only need to watch the first 15 seconds of it though to get the point.

:lol: That was good. And I need to see that movie again.

[Visionoyahweh]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162- ... s-but-why/

ETA: My response to this is farther upthread.

[doggie]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57325074-10391704/prostate-cancer-tied-to-birth-control-pills-but-why/

ETA: My response to this is farther upthread.

they forget all the soy products.

[NurseNell]

they forget all the soy products.

Yes, they do. Those of us with estrogen positive breast cancer are told to avoid soy.