John Shrader 21: Nine Years in Zambia and Still Failing

[JermajestyDuggar]

Watching the Shrader children made me realize those sheltered kids are probably perfect matches for the sheltered Rod kids 🙁 Let’s hope they don’t match up. 

[molecule]

3 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Watching the Shrader children made me realize those sheltered kids are probably perfect matches for the sheltered Rod kids 🙁 Let’s hope they don’t match up. 

But it would be so fun to watch John and Jill fighting to be the center of attention!

[Ozlsn]

14 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Watching the Shrader children made me realize those sheltered kids are probably perfect matches for the sheltered Rod kids 🙁 Let’s hope they don’t match up. 

Honestly don't know who would get the worse end of that deal. Probably the girls on both sides but it would be a major culture shock either way.

[llucie]

18 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Watching the Shrader children made me realize those sheltered kids are probably perfect matches for the sheltered Rod kids 🙁 Let’s hope they don’t match up. 

The poor Shrader kids already have it so bad i dont wish Jill and David on them as in-laws, but not gonna lie i also have thought of that possibility with the Rods being so into missionary work and the Keller connexion.

[Bluegrin]

I just saw this on Facebook. I wouldn’t have believed it had I not seen it. Wade needs a fancier bike 🏍️. Also he has a post asking for donations to help out a worthy couple as he calls it. 
 

A new video also was done showing that the Beauchamp family are in Katy with Rick and will be joining John and Wade in the late spring/early summer. The Beauchamps were in Indiana traveling back this past week to get their belongings along with saying goodbyes to all those who wanted to see them. 
 

They have put out a fund raising campaign to help with the immediate costs of traveling by airplane, a shipping container and money needed for start up costs in Zambia. They are asking for donations of 25,000.00 to work with the Shrader family foundation at once. 

[postscript]

So after all the trouble getting the motorcycle to Zambia and Satan fighting them, he’s selling the bike to buy another one? Perhaps it was really God telling them the motorcycle didn’t belong in Zambia in the first place. Is he hoping to sell it in Zambia or will he need to ship it back to the US? 

A second couple will probably make life easier for the Mears and Esther. At least they will be company other than John. 

On 10/15/2023 at 3:19 PM, JermajestyDuggar said:

Watching the Shrader children made me realize those sheltered kids are probably perfect matches for the sheltered Rod kids 🙁 Let’s hope they don’t match up. 

I’ve had the same thought. The two sets of kids are well matched in terms of ages, lack of education, and lack of exposure to the real world. Not to mention Jill and John are evenly matched in terms of love bombing, need to be the center of the universe, and ability to squeeze never ending sources of income out of nowhere. If a set of the kids matched up, I could see John making them settle in Zambia, which would allow Jill to brag about one of her kids achieving the coveted missionary status. They could even introduce Plexus to Zambia! 

[Bluegrin]

Wade says keep preaching 

[Bluegrin]

The Beauchamps started this Facebook page as soon as coming back from Zambia west Africa. He’s begging money from Rich Christians. Wonder how John will take to someone on his team begging money. 
 

also I am not sure if anyone watched the video of the Shrader but the children especially the younger ones look malnourished and starving 

[Giraffe]

What. The. Actual. F. 
 

So Mears is expecting someone in Zambia to give him USD$6,000?!!! Why not sell it before going out to Zambia in the first place? He's as delusional as John! Omfg! I take back my prediction of Mears & John having an epic falling out. They're made for each other! 

[Xan]

2 hours ago, Giraffe said:

What. The. Actual. F. 
 

So Mears is expecting someone in Zambia to give him USD$6,000?!!! Why not sell it before going out to Zambia in the first place? He's as delusional as John! Omfg! I take back my prediction of Mears & John having an epic falling out. They're made for each other! 

And he grifted the money from churches to send the motorcycle over to Zambia.  What a waste!

Now they're planning to add in the Beauchamps?  Do the local people need that many missionaries?  And it looks like they're attempting to set up some training school for crazy fundamentalism preachers.  Those are grand dreams from three equally nutty great white savior types.  I do so hope that it doesn't work out.

[Ozlsn]

11 hours ago, Xan said:

Those are grand dreams from three equally nutty great white savior types.  I do so hope that it doesn't work out.

I have great faith that it won't. The Lord works in mysterious ways and three narcissistic nutjobs together may well be his way of killing the mission.

[Bluegrin]

This is a picture of the Beauchamps with their sassafras tea 😆 he made as big of deal as John with his sunflower seeds. Also Wade needs a total of 6,000 usd from Zambia people for his motorcycle plus an additional 4,500 usd from the Churches for his new motorcycle. 
 

on the Bible college John is starting he will teach how important Bible college is while the Beauchamps will teach how it’s a waste of time while Wade will have nothing but free motorcycle classes and rides in the Bible college school. Talk about confusion and a soon implosion 💥 

 

the Beauchamps are raising 25,000 for start up costs. They had one individual give 20.00 😆 and they are now asking pastor Rick for more funds to go on another vacation to help John and more pictures to show the churches. 

[Ozlsn]

1 hour ago, Bluegrin said:

they are now asking pastor Rick for more funds to go on another vacation to help John and more pictures to show the churches.

You have to think at some point the churches are going to question this. The church in Katy is already supporting 6 adults and soon to be 12 children, and the positive results of this decade of support are minimal at best (mostly that John hasn't been in Katy). Adding another two apparently able-bodied adults to support is just ridiculous. 

Wade should have sold the motorbike prior to leaving in line with Matthew 19:21. Who am I kidding - all these grown adults should have stayed home.

[Bluegrin]

On 10/19/2023 at 12:57 PM, Bluegrin said:

 

 

Edited October 22, 2023 by Bluegrin

[Howl]

On 10/19/2023 at 11:57 AM, Bluegrin said:

the immediate costs of traveling by airplane, a shipping container and money needed for start up costs in Zambia.

I honestly have to wonder how local people survive in Zambia without people shipping them a household full of stuff from the US.

Is the cost getting a shipping container to Zambia more than arriving in Zambia and purchasing everything there? Really, I just don't get it.  

And SRSLY, just **** grifting a**hat Bro. Wade.  He could sell his current ride and support a missionary couple for a year or do something for the congregation.   Pretty obvious he must be from the same mold as John, who doesn't believe in "creating dependency" amonst his flock, while making sure all his own needs are met. 

 

[Giraffe]

15 hours ago, Bluegrin said:

This is a picture of the Beauchamps with their sassafras tea 😆 he made as big of deal as John with his sunflower seeds. Also Wade needs a total of 6,000 usd from Zambia people for his motorcycle plus an additional 4,500 usd from the Churches for his new motorcycle. 
 

on the Bible college John is starting he will teach how important Bible college is while the Beauchamps will teach how it’s a waste of time while Wade will have nothing but free motorcycle classes and rides in the Bible college school. Talk about confusion and a soon implosion 💥 

 

the Beauchamps are raising 25,000 for start up costs. They had one individual give 20.00 😆 and they are now asking pastor Rick for more funds to go on another vacation to help John and more pictures to show the churches. 

Oh FFS! I hope Zambia cancels every one of their visas and firces them out!

[Gobsmacked]

On 10/19/2023 at 6:57 PM, Bluegrin said:

I just saw this on Facebook. I wouldn’t have believed it had I not seen it. Wade needs a fancier bike 🏍️. Also he has a post asking for donations to help out a worthy couple as he calls it. 
 

A new video also was done showing that the Beauchamp family are in Katy with Rick and will be joining John and Wade in the late spring/early summer. The Beauchamps were in Indiana traveling back this past week to get their belongings along with saying goodbyes to all those who wanted to see them. 
 

They have put out a fund raising campaign to help with the immediate costs of traveling by airplane, a shipping container and money needed for start up costs in Zambia. They are asking for donations of 25,000.00 to work with the Shrader family foundation at once. 

Why on earth did he bring the damn thing in the first place?  Shrader sized plonker in the making? Or an unexpected cash shortfall after doing the house up? 

[marmalade]

6 hours ago, Gobsmacked said:

Why on earth did he bring the damn thing in the first place?  Shrader sized plonker in the making? Or an unexpected cash shortfall after doing the house up? 

Didn't he say he wanted to get another bike? Maybe one better suited to the crappy dirt roads? 

[Ozlsn]

On 10/20/2023 at 5:55 AM, Bluegrin said:

Wade says keep preaching 

 

Maybe they're just really sick of blowhard white guys coming in and trying to tell them what to do?

[anjulibai]

If they've been coming there for years, what is happening that they haven't repented properly?

[Xan]

38 minutes ago, anjulibai said:

If they've been coming there for years, what is happening that they haven't repented properly?

I imagine they think they've repented.  It's just that John has so many rules and so many hoops through which to jump that he doesn't count them as saved.

I think those nice Zambians ought to just help all the missionaries pack up and escort them either to the border or to an airport.  They've put up with enough.

[Ozlsn]

On 10/27/2023 at 7:53 AM, anjulibai said:

If they've been coming there for years, what is happening that they haven't repented properly?

I suspect they don't agree to John as their One True Saviour and Lord, and possibly disagree with his interpretations of Scripture.

[SoSoNosy]

On 10/25/2023 at 6:30 PM, marmalade said:

Didn't he say he wanted to get another bike? Maybe one better suited to the crappy dirt roads? 

Yes, he wants a Harley.  I wonder where he plans to acquire it.

[anjulibai]

15 hours ago, Ozlsn said:

I suspect they don't agree to John as their One True Saviour and Lord, and possibly disagree with his interpretations of Scripture.

Then why go to his church? That's what I find odd. They've been going to John's church for years, but aren't saved? If that's the case, you'd think they'd wonder why. 

[SoSoNosy]

I hadn't read this thread in ages, until I stumbled down the rabbit hole this week.  Something that has registered in my thoughts is, why do they need a shipping container full of stuff in order to go there?  They surely have some idea of the less advanced way of living. I don't know what kind of furniture they are shipping, but overstuffed chairs and fragile upholstery seem unnecessary.  Since they don't live all that far from a decent sized city, from what I am understanding, why can they not ship the things they are sure they can't buy there, and travel lighter?

And where are they getting all those matching shirts?  This has probably been discussed but slipped through the cracks in my memory.