Trump 55: The Bronze Baron Of Bedminster Wants Back On Twitter And the Forbes 400

[SPHASH]

8 hours ago, fraurosena said:

And this asshat still chose to keep working for him and remain silent about all this until now.

All these enablers who are only now speaking up because they want to sell their books are just as much, if not more so, to blame for what happened under Trump and the current threat to American democracy.

 

Which is why I refuse to buy let alone read any books written by Barr, Bolton, KAC, Winston-Wolkoff, Huckabee-Sanders etc.

Slightly off topic, I'm very glad the US is going after the assets of the Russian Oligarchs and the money will go to Ukraine.  However I can't help but feel the US should get a slice of the pie since Putin and the oligarchs helped Trump steal the 2016 election.

[Cartmann99]

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[Dandruff]

4 hours ago, SPHASH said:

Slightly off topic, I'm very glad the US is going after the assets of the Russian Oligarchs and the money will go to Ukraine.  However I can't help but feel the US should get a slice of the pie since Putin and the oligarchs helped Trump steal the 2016 election.

Interesting idea.  How do you think the money should be used or distributed in the US?

[SPHASH]

1 hour ago, Dandruff said:

Interesting idea.  How do you think the money should be used or distributed in the US?

Pay back the Secret Service for all the protection the Trumps and the ex-Trumps got.

Pay for the jet fuel AF1 used hauling Trump to Mar a Lago every weekend in the winter and Bedminster in the summer.

Damage done in the Capitol Building on Jan 6.

Compensation to Brian Sicknick's family.

Pay off the security protection to NYC for protecting Trump Tower.

Pay off security costs to cities Trump stiffed when he was campaigning or holding his KKK rallies.

Pay off damages in cities that had riots during the summer of 2020.

[fraurosena]

It may be a fun idea to use the oligarch money for… except that money was for a large part stolen from the Russian people. You would be taking money that rightfully belongs to them to use for the US.

So who has the most right to it? The real owners, or the ones duped by the criminals who stole it?

[Dandruff]

5 hours ago, fraurosena said:

It may be a fun idea to use the oligarch money for… except that money was for a large part stolen from the Russian people. You would be taking money that rightfully belongs to them to use for the US.

So who has the most right to it? The real owners, or the ones duped by the criminals who stole it?

@SPHASH suggested splitting the money up.  If we gave most of it to their original owners they'd have something vs. the nothing they could likely expect if we didn't go after the assets.  There's also the question of how quickly the money might be stolen from them again.  We'd be providing a service - hopefully setting things up so they could hold onto the money - while taking some compensation for the harm done to us.

All hypothetical, of course, and one potential viewpoint.

[Xan]

This is a tricky question.  Exactly how do we disburse stolen funds?  Ideally, you give it back to the owners but, in this case, it was mostly stolen from the Russian people themselves.  Instead of getting a decent apartment at the agreed-upon time, maybe families had to wait an extra two years for a substandard until with bad wiring.  And that's because the oligarchs building the apartments cheated the people and kept most of the money.  Instead of a decent hospital with up-to-date equipment, they got a third-rate hospital lacking some modern equipment.

Sure, the oligarchs robbed America too.  And they used Trump to launder money.  We have massive financial losses due to Trump.  On the other hand, the Ukrainians will have to rebuild cities.  I think their need is greater and it will take billions to put the country back together.  It still may never be the same.  I'm okay with letting them keep the oligarchs' money and property.

I do think that we ought to seize all of Trump's assets and use those to pay back the government.  And I'm okay with seizing any property that Republicans got from the oligarchs and using that too.

[Xan]

I also came across this photo on Twitter:

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Look at Trump's face.  This was the moment after oil negotiations when he realized that he got played.  

[SPHASH]

1 hour ago, Xan said:

I do think that we ought to seize all of Trump's assets and use those to pay back the government.  And I'm okay with seizing any property that Republicans got from the oligarchs and using that too.

I'm also for seizing Trump's assets and also the ones of Beavis, Butthead, and Jarvanka.

Trump assets could go towards paying the taxes they should have been paying all these years, paying the contractors, customers, banks, tenants, employees etc they stiffed, Mary Trump and her brother for the inheritance they never got.  And yes absolutely go after any politician that benefited from Russia (looking at you Jill Stein, Paul Manafort, and Rudy Guiliani).  

Like someone said above thread. this is fun, trying to decide who gets what.  Kinda like fantasizing winning the lottery and you plan to do with the money.

Edited March 6, 2022 by SPHASH

[GreyhoundFan]

[47of74]

Man baby has a sad about the launch of his social network.  

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Former President Donald Trump is furious about the underwhelming launch of his new social media app Truth Social, The Daily Beast reported, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

Sources told the outlet Trump had been heard on the phone "swearing gratuitously" and asking "what the fuck is going on" with the app.

Many people who downloaded the app say they could not create accounts or were placed on waitlists.

The former president has been complaining about the negative press surrounding the app's botched rollout, sources told The Daily Beast, demanding to know why more people aren't using it and why it isn't dominating the competition.

 

[Jana814]

Trump has such a big ego. Of course he’s mad that his app hasn’t been more successful. 

[Xan]

1 hour ago, Jana814 said:

Trump has such a big ego. Of course he’s mad that his app hasn’t been more successful. 

He doesn't even use it himself!  How does he expect people to download and use it if he doesn't even make any comments for them to see?  I think he thought it was just another opportunity to make money.  He just wants back on Twitter and Facebook.

[47of74]

1 hour ago, Xan said:

He doesn't even use it himself!  How does he expect people to download and use it if he doesn't even make any comments for them to see?  I think he thought it was just another opportunity to make money.  He just wants back on Twitter and Facebook.

Or if they can’t even get signed up in the first place.  People aren’t going to bother if they can’t even get on to the site with more than a slight bit of trouble.

[Alisamer]

1 hour ago, Xan said:

He doesn't even use it himself!  How does he expect people to download and use it if he doesn't even make any comments for them to see?  I think he thought it was just another opportunity to make money.  He just wants back on Twitter and Facebook.

Literally everything in Trump's universe is about making money. That's the whole sum total of his existence, personality, everything. Money. The appearance of money, even more so. His head is a big empty chasm with cheap gilded plastic dollar signs rattling around in it.

His ego is huge and is a consideration, but I have no doubt that he'd (continue to) embarass himself shamelessly for money. It's all about money. His ego is based on the appearance of having lots and lots of money. I think running for president was a publicity stunt to get his name out there more so he could make more money and seem more famous. Being president he managed to siphon tons of money into his own pockets, and kept his name in the news hourly. He also managed to gain lots of $$$ from companies and other countries (staying in his properties) plus all the cash he swindled from his severely stupid supporters who had very little to give but spent what they did have on Trump hats and flags. 

Give Trump a choice between being the most powerful man in the world but having to live frugally and being the richest most famous man in the world, he'd give up the power in a heartbeat. Money. Fame, which makes it easier to get more money. 

[Cartmann99]

 

[GreyhoundFan]

"The 20 most outlandish lines from Donald Trump's letter to Lester Holt"

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(CNN)In advance of the release of Bill Barr's memoir of his time in the Trump administration on Tuesday, NBC's Lester Holt sat down with the former attorney general to talk about his time as the nation's top cop.

Ahead of the airing of the interview, former President Donald Trump sent a three-page letter to Holt repeatedly criticizing Barr, while also continuing to push the 2020 election fraud conspiracy.

Axios obtained the letter, which you can read for yourself here. I went through it and plucked out the lines you really do need to see to believe. They're below.

1. "He was slow, lethargic, and I realized early on that he never had what it takes to make a great Attorney General."

This description of Barr provides a telling window into how Trump evaluates people: It's all surface, no substance. And away we go!

2. "He became virtually worthless to Law and Order and Election Integrity."

Why is "Law and Order" capitalized here? Is it a reference to the long-running show on NBC? Inquiring minds want to know! And don't even get me started on "Election Integrity."

3. "They broke him just like a trainer breaks a horse."

Well, this is an image! Trump's contention here is that Democratic threats to file contempt charges against Barr for his refusal to turn over the full report by Robert Mueller into Russian interference in the 2016 campaign essentially spooked the attorney general, who then acceded to all of their wishes. You'll be stunned to know there's no real evidence to back up this claim from Trump.

4. "Despite massive amounts of evidence, with far more produced after his leaving, he refused to go after the fraud and irregularities that had so openly taken place in the 2020 Presidential Election."

"The fact is, we have looked at the major claims your people are making, and they are bullshit." -- Barr said in an excerpt of his forthcoming book published by The Wall Street Journal.

5. "Even the Mueller investigation, which came out with a finding of NO COLLUSION, should have gone much faster, especially after knowing all of the information that was available and already at their disposal."

What Mueller found was that there wasn't an express agreement between Trump's campaign and the Russians to collude in hopes of getting Trump elected. As Mueller put it: "Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

6. "As everyone knows, my campaign was SPIED on, and Bill Barr did nothing about it."

Way back in 2017 Trump -- without any proof-- suggested that former President Barack Obama had ordered wiretaps of Trump Tower phones during the 2016 campaign. And again earlier this year, Trump insisted that a filing by special counsel John Durham confirmed the spying. It did not. As Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler put it last month: "The Durham filing says much less than what Trump claims. Thus far, Durham has not charged anyone with spying on Trump. In fact, the statute of limitations has already expired for a key meeting cited in the filing."

7. "I imagine that if the book is anything like him, it will be long, slow and very boring."

Boom. Roasted.

8. "Now he is groveling to the media, hoping to gain acceptance that he doesn't deserve."

On Monday, Barr told NBC's Savannah Guthrie that he would vote for Trump if the former president ran again in 2024 So, yeah.

9. "When I saw that the Department of Justice was not doing their job, I have every legal right to ask them to so, in accordance with the law and the Constitution."

"Doing their job" should be understood here as "not doing what I wanted them to do." Which is not the same thing as their job.

10. "It is now a fact that my campaign was spied on. This is treason that has now been confirmed by John Durham."

"If third parties or members of the media have overstated, understated, or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained in the Government's Motion, that does not in any way undermine the valid reasons for the Government's inclusion of this information." -- Durham wrote in a court filing.

11. "Despite the many crimes committed by the Biden family, I did not push Barr to go after them."

[narrator voice] There is no evidence that the Biden family committed any crimes, much less "many" crimes.

12. "While the things done were legendarily corrupt, I thought it would be inappropriate for me to get personally involved."

Not just corrupt. "Legendarily" corrupt.

13. "As it turned out, they spied in 2016 and if possible, did far worse than that in 2020 -- they RIGGED the Election."

It's worth repeating Barr here: "The fact is, we have looked at the major claims your people are making, and they are bullshit."

14. "Barr's lack of energy, drive and curiosity led me to say things to him that should never have ever been necessary -- but he was so lazy and cowardly, he just never quite understood what was going on."

In Trump's view, there are two unforgivable sins: Weakness and low energy. Barr had both!

15. "In other words, Bill Barr was a coward!"

Yes, you literally just said that.

16. "I never said 'You must hate Trump,' rather I said 'If you didn't see corruption in the Election, of which so much has already been revealed (and massive amounts up until this date,) than you are not capable of being Attorney General. You don't have the energy or backbone to stand up to the Radical Left. Please give me your Letter of Resignation.'"

That's not, at all, how Barr explained his departure from the White House. Here's how Barr said it happened: "The next morning, I got a call from Mark Meadows. I told him that I would not surprise President Trump by leaving without warning. On December 14, the day by which all the states had certified their election results, effectively locking in Biden's victory, I went over to tell the president that I would like to leave before Christmas."

17. "The Election was totally corrupt, and we had no one fighting this corruption because Bill Barr did not have to the courage to do so."

Again, here's Barr: "The fact is, we have looked at the major claims your people are making, and they are bullshit."

18. "I was President of the United States and was asked to make a speech on January 6. I went to the site, made my speech and returned to the White House."

Trump conveniently leaves out what he told the crowd gathered for the "Stop the Steal" rally. "We fight like hell," he said. "And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."

19. "If they had taken my offer, there would have been no 'January 6' as we know it."

Trump has long said that he offered to call up 10,000 or more National Guard troops before January 6, 2021, but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rejected the idea. It's his way of shirking responsibility for what happened that day. It's also not true. "There is no clear evidence that Trump made such a request, and no evidence that Pelosi denied one," said PolitiFact last year.

20. "Now the Witch Hunt continues with Shifty Adam Schiff, RINO Liz Cheney, and others on what I call the Unselect Committee."

Unnecessary capitalization? Check. Name calling? Check. Yeah, this feels like a good place to end.

 

[AmazonGrace]

But I love it that Trump's app is called Truth Social as there is probably very little that is true that gets posted, and it's not even that social if nobody's reading it.

[Xan]

2 hours ago, AmazonGrace said:

But I love it that Trump's app is called Truth Social as there is probably very little that is true that gets posted, and it's not even that social if nobody's reading it.

Every time I hear "Truth Social", all I can think about is Orwell and doublespeak.  

[thoughtful]

Untrue Antisocial!

[GreyhoundFan]

20 hours ago, Xan said:

Every time I hear "Truth Social", all I can think about is Orwell and doublespeak.  

I doubt TFG has ever heard of Orwell, much less read any of this work.

[47of74]

Just saw this on quora

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Answer to Why are there so few pictures of Donald Trump smiling?

Because his entire life has been one of perpetual anger. He was literally a millionaire when he was eight (his dad gave him the money as a tax dodge) and spent the first 70 years of his life having everything he wanted handed to him on a gold platter (no silver for the likes of him) and never hearing the word “no” unless it passed his own lips.

Yet in spite of this glorious life, he has constantly whined and complained that people are “mean” to him and blows up when told he can’t have something he wants—and even when he does. 

Yeah that’s a fairly accurate assessment of the orange Florida man.  Said knob of fornicate has been mad 24x7x365 for over 70 years. 

[47of74]

2 hours ago, 47of74 said:

Just saw this on quora

Yeah that’s a fairly accurate assessment of the orange Florida man.  Said knob of fornicate has been mad 24x7x365 for over 70 years. 

Oh BTW do not google knob of fornicate like I just did.

[Cartmann99]

 

[GreyhoundFan]

Amen.