Support Irish women's right to choose!

[fraurosena]

You don’t need to see the whole minute and a half of this video, just watch the woman in the purple beret in the first couple of seconds as she hears the results. Simply priceless!

If you decide to watch the whole thing, keep your tissues handy though.

[Imaginary_Wonderland]

Ah, I've no words for those brothers. I've come across plenty of tweets yesterday about rigging the Yes vote, and especially asking who paid for the #hometovote crowd. I'm assuming most of them paid their own travel expenses, many of which were long haul trips back from all over the world. And someone wanted to see all the spoiled votes thinking they had to No votes cast aside. I don't know the figures and I'm crap at maths, but even if that claim was true I doubt it would be enough to swing the vote in favour of the No side. But no word now mentioned at all the dark money the No side took from certain American groups.

I have also seen plenty of American religious zealots tweeting about how heartbroken they are at the result. They got great replies though, mainly to sort out their gun fetish and stop turning a blind eye to school murders of actual living children before lecturing Ireland on morality etc. (I'm not trying to have a dig at Americans on an American board).

I am no good at technical stuff so don't know how to post it or link it here, but one of my favourite photo responses to the result is a picture of June/Offred dressed as a handmaid to represent Irish women before Friday, followed by a pic of Peggy Olsen (I think) to represent Irish women after Friday. I loved that! The Father Ted one is good too.

[Ais]

@Imaginary_Wonderland 

[Imaginary_Wonderland]

Yes, that's the one! Thanks @Ais It did makes me laugh, especially as early on Friday, before we voted, I was discussing the referendum with my Mum and she said she wanted to go dressed as a handmaid. Except she doesn't have a red cloak or a white bonnet, and I'm not sure she would be allowed to vote dressed like that either.

[oaklie]

I love that pre Friday/ post Friday picture too.

I think most of the home to votes were in the UK. There was a group helping fund travel and I did see Oxford student union agreeing to fund some students return. But that's no where near the big money the No side had. There were far more No posters, particularly outside of Dublin and it seemed like a never ending stream of No ads online. There were lots of Americans brought over to canvas. Its pretty appalling to come over try to influence something like this head back to your own country (with legal abortion). 

The family wanting to live in an abortion free country aren't living in reality. We won't miss them if they decide to leave. Someone uncovered an older son with a criminal record in Florida (can't find the link again but think it was molestation or similar). 

So is next up to get rid of the "woman in the home" bit of the constitution?

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In particular, the State recognises that by her life within the home, woman gives to the State a support without which the common good cannot be achieve.
The State shall, therefore, endeavour to ensure that mothers shall not be obliged by economic necessity to engage in labour to neglect of their duties in the home.

I have never seen a list of what my duties in the home are, but I'm sure I neglect them what with having to work for economic necessity.
 

[Destiny]

What the shit? That’s really in your constitution? *vomit.

[oaklie]

I just doubled checked and yes its still there, found an article from late last year talking about getting rid of it. Pity they didn't  have it as part of this referendum. It would really highlight the sexism in the constitution

[47of74]

On 5/27/2018 at 5:27 AM, Imaginary_Wonderland said:

I have also seen plenty of American religious zealots tweeting about how heartbroken they are at the result. They got great replies though, mainly to sort out their gun fetish and stop turning a blind eye to school murders of actual living children before lecturing Ireland on morality etc. (I'm not trying to have a dig at Americans on an American board).

Fuck these American religious zealots.  They want to export misery throughout the world and cannot stand it when people stand up to their bullshit.  I know I've said it before but that was one of the most liberating things about ditching the Roman church - no longer having to pretend to like or even tolerate these reich to life types.

I saw this interesting bit where neither side was expecting the landslide that happened.

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The vote to repeal the amendment banning abortion was supposed to be close. That was what the polls said, and that’s how the press reported it. That was how organizers for both sides thought it would go. But when the voting was over at 10 pm on May 25, the first exit polls showed Yes had achieved an electoral tsunami, crushing No by a two-to-one margin. I was with the psychiatrist Veronica O’Keane and other Doctors for Choice when the word came down, and I swear I saw them dancing in the streets that night.

At the Tally the next day, held at the sprawling RDS Simmonscourt Pavilion, usually used for equestrian events, the excitement continued. (The Tally is an Irish democratic ritual at which local ballots, all paper, are counted in public at long tables by citizens while other citizens keep a watchful eye, and people mill about drinking coffee, meeting friends, and trying to keep track of their children.) I had to look hard to find No campaigners, and when I finally did come across a small group, they declined an interview. “I’m all out of words,” said a pleasant, well-dressed, middle-aged woman sadly.

Yes campaigners had no such problem. “I’m gobsmacked!” said Clara Fischer, whom I’d shadowed going door-to-door in Donnybrook the previous Sunday with decidedly mixed results. “Everyone is crying with relief and joy,” said a young, blue-lipsticked member of ROSA, the socialist feminist group that put on some of the cleverest publicity stunts, like dressing up as Handmaids in red cloaks and white headdresses while parading on O’Connell Bridge. “It’s feminist Christmas,” said Mairead Enright of Lawyers for Choice. “War is over if you want it.”

Dressed in a gorgeous maroon-and-gold sari with an embroidered black shawl folded neatly over her arm, Shampa Lahiri was a haunting reminder of a casualty of that war: Savita Halappanavar, the young dentist who died after days of agony in a Galway hospital in 2012 because doctors refused to complete her protracted miscarriage as long as the fetus had a heartbeat. Savita’s death was the inevitable outcome of the eighth amendment, which gives equal value to the life of the “unborn” and the pregnant woman, and it jump-started the movement to change the law. During the campaign, pictures of Savita in beautiful Indian dress were everywhere. While the No side attributed her death to a medical mix-up, her parents and husband eloquently urged a vote for Yes. “I campaigned in this dress,” Lahiri told me, both to remind people of Savita and to make the point that “this is a global struggle.”

 

[formergothardite]

 

[Toothfairy]

Happy for Ireland. If only America could do the same. Finally a woman has a right to choose

[nausicaa]

6 hours ago, Toothfairy said:

Happy for Ireland. If only America could do the same. Finally a woman has a right to choose

Huh? Legal abortions are the law of the land in the U.S. A woman has had the right to choose since 1972.

In fact, we have more liberal abortion laws (allowing abortion through the third trimester) than many European countries. Even after the results of this referendum are instituted, Ireland will still only allow abortions for the first twelve weeks.

 

[Toothfairy]

4 hours ago, nausicaa said:

Huh? Legal abortions are the law of the land in the U.S. A woman has had the right to choose since 1972.

In fact, we have more liberal abortion laws (allowing abortion through the third trimester) than many European countries. Even after the results of this referendum are instituted, Ireland will still only allow abortions for the first twelve weeks.

 

I meant to say America should have more access to abortions and not restrict it. Right now we limit abortions or close clinics down. Sorry, if that came out wrong. I was tired when I came on FJ.