Lori Alexander 29: Gossiping about Gossip

[lilwriter85]

Cheryl's responses were terrific. I'm glad she brought up economics, worker's rights, and wages. I have thought about those same things when Lori and Ken keep claiming that men would be paid better if women didn't work. Ken and Lori also don't consider that many workplaces would turn into messes without working women. Ken's orthodontic clients' offices would end up being chaotic if there aren't women managing the offices. Ken damn well knows that dentists and orthodontists rely heavily on their assistants when treating patients and doing procedures. Dental and orthodontic assistants are mostly women. 

 

[Teaistheway]

Whoops - should not have opened this thread. Have been avoiding reading Lori's ramblings for several months now as out of all the fundies we follow she's the one who enrages me the most (and that's saying something).  Just by reading the last few posts I can see she's still full of hatred  and bitterness for just about anyone who isn't her and Ken's still pontificating on things he knows nothing about (stick to teeth, Ken).  They're a terrible advert for Christianity.  

[usmcmom]

1 hour ago, Joyce said:

From the Facebook chat room paraphrased:

Lori, Ken and the grandchildren were outside for a few hours walking along the beach and playing in the surf. Many days, Lori went out and lay on her tummy with very few clothes on (when only Ken is at home) and got some sun for about 20 minutes.

Those grandchildren have also been spending A LOT of time with Lori's daughter, Alyssa.  Alyssa even had some photos of them in their pajamas (on her IG story). If Lori is claiming she has been their only caregiver for a week (as she mentioned in HER IG story) she is lying. 

I still want to know why it is okay for her son and daughter-in-law to go away for a week but when the rest of us want to do it, we are sinning. To be fair, the safest place for those children is probably Alyssa's house. I hope they had a week without meal time abuse and beatings. Of course, if they spent any time with Lori, they are having nightmares about snakes eating them if they complain. Those poor children. 

[lilwriter85]

2 minutes ago, Teaistheway said:

Whoops - should not have opened this thread. Have been avoiding reading Lori's ramblings for several months now as out of all the fundies we follow she's the one who enrages me the most (and that's saying something).

For a long time Zsu Anderson and The Thinking Housewife both really pissed me off. But, somehow I think Lori is worse than them.  She gets into more with people on the blog and FB. One thing I give credit to Zsu for is that she mostly fights her own battles with commenters when conflicts arise. She doesn't have PP white knight her all that much from what I can tell. 

While other fundie bloggers have bashed working women, Lori has taken it to extremes and she claims a lot of crazy bullshit happens when women work. Other fundie bloggers don't usually make up or claim the shit Lori claims.

[Teaistheway]

Lol - when I wrote my post I was thinking that it's a toss up between Zsu and Lori for worst, but Zsu has shown some warmth re her children on occasion (granted nowhere near enough) and posts about a variety of things (recipes, trips etc) Lori seems to be a one trick woman bashing pony.  But it is close run and if the PP was more involved on Zsu's blog that could easily tip the balance as he is just as hateful as Ken.

[Sarah92]

2 hours ago, Seahorse Wrangler said:

It looks like Jilly N Anthony has been banned.

Why would she be banned? Did I miss something that she wrote, I didn't notice a whole lot that disagreed with Lori out right. That is if I'm remembering the right person. 

[lilwriter85]

1 hour ago, Teaistheway said:

Lol - when I wrote my post I was thinking that it's a toss up between Zsu and Lori for worst, but Zsu has shown some warmth re her children on occasion (granted nowhere near enough) and posts about a variety of things (recipes, trips etc) Lori seems to be a one trick woman bashing pony.  But it is close run and if the PP was more involved on Zsu's blog that could easily tip the balance as he is just as hateful as Ken.

I do think PP is worse than Ken. When it comes to Lori vs. Zsu. Lori takes that one for me. Zsu has spread some awful beliefs to women. But, so far Zsu hasn't self published a book and she doesn't spend as much time monitoring other women on the Internet. Zsu also doesn't appear to hate working women as much Lori does. There were a couple of posts on Zsu's blog where she said that she understood if women had to to work in drastic situations. Zsu has done medical translation work from home in the past and once said that if something happeend to PP she could do that as a job. I suspect Zsu would have a hard time trying to support a bunch of kids. When it comes down to it she has a better understanding of reality that Lori does.

4 minutes ago, Sarah92 said:

Why would she be banned? Did I miss something that she wrote, I didn't notice a whole lot that disagreed with Lori out right. That is if I'm remembering the right person. 

Jilly had left some comments recently that were in support of women getting educations and having jobs if they wanted them. She pointed that her daughter was in college and planning to become a Christian counselor. Those could have been what pushed Lori to block her. I think in time some of Lori's lesser conservative fangirls will ditch her due to the extreme hatred of working women. The fangirls that constantly post about how they live on low incomes or how their husbands work multiple jobs will be the ones that stick with Lori to the end. 

[AlwaysDiscerning]

[Sarah92]

49 minutes ago, lilwriter85 said:

Jilly had left some comments recently that were in support of women getting educations and having jobs if they wanted them. She pointed that her daughter was in college and planning to become a Christian counselor. Those could have been what pushed Lori to block her. I think in time some of Lori's lesser conservative fangirls will ditch her due to the extreme hatred of working women. The fangirls that constantly post about how they live on low incomes or how their husbands work multiple jobs will be the ones that stick with Lori to the end. 

Oh I remember reading some of those comments now. It's sad that she was banned because I thought she offered some positivity to the page. Of course how I'm not banned yet I have no clue. I did reply back to Ken on his crap about BPD and that's not allowed cause I'm a younger educated woman. But one did recently mention that she didn't think she could keep following the page after Ken said porn isn't adultery. The woman's husband had used porn and was divorcing her not to mention abusing her daughter during visitations. Of course that was deleted. We can't have women talking about ex husbands abusing their children and the women getting orders of protection now can we? 

[Hisey]

3 hours ago, usmcmom said:

Those grandchildren have also been spending A LOT of time with Lori's daughter, Alyssa.  Alyssa even had some photos of them in their pajamas (on her IG story). If Lori is claiming she has been their only caregiver for a week (as she mentioned in HER IG story) she is lying. 

I still want to know why it is okay for her son and daughter-in-law to go away for a week but when the rest of us want to do it, we are sinning. To be fair, the safest place for those children is probably Alyssa's house. I hope they had a week without meal time abuse and beatings. Of course, if they spent any time with Lori, they are having nightmares about snakes eating them if they complain. Those poor children. 

I have wondered about that, too. Erin, their mom, seems to need a lot of time away from the kids. She and her hubby go away an awful lot and leave the kids with Lori. She also dumps the kids with Lori for other reasons. So, "me" time is OK if you're Lori's DIL, but not for everyone else?

I also have to wonder why they'd trust their babies with Lori and Ken. Could they have completely drunk the Koolaid? They don't mind that Lori tells them we are all going to burn, and that complaining means that snakes will bite you? They are Ok with Lori telling that to their highly impressionable, believes-everything-you-tell-them preschoolers?

[lilwriter85]

35 minutes ago, Hisey said:

I also have to wonder why they'd trust their babies with Lori and Ken. Could they have completely drunk the Koolaid? They don't mind that Lori tells them we are all going to burn, and that complaining means that snakes will bite you? They are Ok with Lori telling that to their highly impressionable, believes-everything-you-tell-them preschoolers?

They have drunk the Kool-Aid. When the oldest child Emma was a toddler Lori was posting about how her son and DIL spanked her and there was an incident where the son force fed a crying Emma. Lori also said that her DIL Erin came from a conservative family where Erin's mom was submissive of the dad.

[Hisey]

1 hour ago, lilwriter85 said:

They have drunk the Kool-Aid. When the oldest child Emma was a toddler Lori was posting about how her son and DIL spanked her and there was an incident where the son force fed a crying Emma. Lori also said that her DIL Erin came from a conservative family where Erin's mom was submissive of the dad.

Yeah, i did know about that sickening episode with their little girl. However, I thought perhaps they had matured as parents since they have three now. I wonder if they are a happy family? Ryan always has such a sad look in his eyes, and Erin does seem to need a LOT of help from Lori. Plus, Ryan is completely financially dependent on his dad's business, so far as we know. That kind of dependence really forces one to drink the Koolaid, in order to survive.

I wonder what happened to the book Erin was writing, and her flower arranging business? Such a nice, feminine business, but is it lucrative? Maybe she should have sold after market car parts, or perhaps that would require too much testosterone. Women aren't really cut out for the stress of the busines world, since we are driven by our feelings and that makes us tired (or something like that).

[usmcmom]

Erin now makes jewelry. It is very beautiful and I came across her business IG page completely by accident. I think one of my real life California friends had shared it or something. Anyway, She seems to have a great talent for all kinds of artistic outlets. 

Spoiler

champagne_and_glitter is her IG page.  She once posted a picture of her "business trip" to Arizona, which is totally okay for her but not for the rest of us, per Lori  

 

[Free Jana Duggar]

6 hours ago, Seahorse Wrangler said:

It looks like Jilly N Anthony has been banned.

Yes she was. She mentioned it on the Undeleted page.

 

[Letgo]

23 hours ago, Hisey said:

I think you should be very concerned about what Lori thinks <snort> 

You know what's weird? People don't ask women in your situation what they do all day. You are taking care of your grandchildren. It's obvious. It's just moms who get asked that question. Yet they are doing the same job. 

Of course, correct me if I am wrong and people do ask you that question nowadays.

 

I'm sure Lori will have an opinion on me taking care of my grandchildren and will be happy to enlighten me so I'd better send in a question ASAP. Yeah, I'll get right on that...

Nope, they don't ask. They think it's wonderful that I can do that. Odd, isn't it? But, I bet people think I'm retired from a job so it's now okay to be home. It was also okay and really wonderful of me when I took care of my aging and ill parents for several years. But staying home with my OWN children made others question how I spent my time. Just strange. 

[louisa05]

4 minutes ago, Letgo said:

It was also okay and really wonderful of me when I took care of my aging and ill parents for several years. 

It was not okay when I did that. People who had experienced it were very understanding, but people who had not were full of suggestions as to how I could work full time and still manage to care for my parents. None of their suggestions were helpful, of course. And two "friends" who have children were there to tell me all about how caring for a parent with cancer from 65 miles away is much easier than having children. I would suggest that it is not. There are a lot more resources to help parents than to help caregivers. And one mom friend who has done the caregiving for a terminally ill parent noted that it is typically way easier to find volunteers to watch kids than it is to find them to take terminally ill people to medical appointments and such. 

[Koala]

Lori Alexander:

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 I am told to not teach men (1 Timothy 2:12).

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 I am not supposed to teach men anything

Josh:

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I will say you don't understand Galatians then also then please explain why Paul told us to keep Passover. Also why do the prophets say we will keep Tabernacles during Messiah's reign? Also I would challenge you to show me where it says the old testament is done away with, please show me chapter and verse? To throw out the old testament is to truly frustrate the grace of Messiah. I'm reminded of His words when he said depart from me you who work iniquity( that word means LAWLESSNESS) so I wonder what law that is?

She who does NOT teach men:

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 Josh (name redacted) "In that He saith, A new covenant, He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away" (Heb. 8:13). There are verses just like this all throughout Romans to Revelation. We are dead to the Law and free in Christ!

Funny...it's almost like Lori's teaching Josh.  But, I guess not.  After all, she's been commanded by God not to, so.....

Reader:

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Robin (name redacted) The Transformed Wife , can you show me a command or example in the NT for us to celebrate the birth of Jesus? We have the command for his death, the Lord's Supper.

This reader is actually playing by Lori's rules.  She's asking for an example from the NT.  How many times have we heard Lori cry, "nowhere in the Bible does it say _________"?

For instance:

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Nowhere in Scripture can you find where women are told to leave their homes for long periods of time and drop their children off with others to watch.

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There is nowhere in the Bible that instructs women to make money.

Lori's response to the reader?  Sure:

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 Robin (name redacted) there's no command but I am sure He doesn't mind 

Lori speaks for God.  In fact, she's so attuned to the mind of God that she doesn't even need the Bible to know what He would or would not "mind".

That's it folks.  Toss out your Bible and see The Godly Mentor with any questions.

[AlwaysDiscerning]

All she can do is keep linking to this article

 

[Hane]

20 hours ago, EmiGirl said:

Oh my bad. When he said BPD I thought he meant bipolar disorder. I'm a dumbass. 

I thought that's what he meant, too! What *did* he mean?

[Hisey]

47 minutes ago, Hane said:

I thought that's what he meant, too! What *did* he mean?

I thought he meant borderline personality disorder. If you read his comments, I think it was that.

4 hours ago, usmcmom said:

Erin now makes jewelry. It is very beautiful and I came across her business IG page completely by accident. I think one of my real life California friends had shared it or something. Anyway, She seems to have a great talent for all kinds of artistic outlets. 

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champagne_and_glitter is her IG page.  She once posted a picture of her "business trip" to Arizona, which is totally okay for her but not for the rest of us, per Lori  

 

I'll bet she went to the gem show! Was her trip in February?

[Free Jana Duggar]

Well, at least Lori picked a new doodle topic.  The leg humpers are out in full force (100+ comments) debating about Christmas trees.   Here's an idea. If you want one; put up one. If you don't; then don't have one. 

 

[Curious]

1 minute ago, Free Jana Duggar said:

Well, at least Lori picked a new doodle topic.  The leg humpers are out in full force (100+) comments debating about Christmas trees.  SMH, but at least it's something new.

 

shoot.  I just bet my husband it would be about all the football players that either didn't come out during the National Anthem or took a knee.  Good thing I never bet much

[usmcmom]

48 minutes ago, Hisey said:

 

I'll bet she went to the gem show! Was her trip in February?

January 28th

[Sarah92]

2 hours ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

All she can do is keep linking to this article

 

I did my best to read through that linked article(it was super long). Honestly, some of it seems to have faulty reasoning. For example, because a women is a "help meet" it means she's subordinate because apparently to help places you in that position . At least that's how I understood their reasoning. Considering how God helps us without putting himself in a subordinate position I'd say the reasoning is faulty. Also when it discusses the Psalms 31 woman it seems to make assumptions about the text without actually citing proper reasoning. Also being keepers at the home still does not exclude women from working provided they can help manage their household affairs (and in my opinion do so equally with the husband's help). 

[Loveday]

Here's Sonya's response to Lori's "It's my blog and FB and I'll do what I want" comment:

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The Transformed Wife, that's completely true. We all have the freedom to censor whomever we want on the internet. What concerns me is the lack of honest dialogue that is supposed to exist in this community connected to Jesus. Proverbs 27:17 says "As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another." When iron sharpens iron, sparks fly and metal gets ground down. So, it is in the body of Christ, dialogue and differences is what makes us stronger and more like Christ. But also as 1 Corinthians 12:12 says "Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ." That scripture reflects the reality that we are uniquely different, which can cause contention, but we must continually work together for the cause of Jesus. Removing honest questions and dialogue from you FB page and blog becomes a clear statement that you have no desire to work together to the larger church for the sake of Jesus' redeeming message. It says "If you disagree with me, I'm not talking to you. I am not willing to work with other believers for he sake of Christ." And that is a dangerous place to live in for any Christian.

It's getting harder and harder for me to refrain from 'liking' certain comments on Lori's FB page.