Lorken don't sin like all you sinning sinners

[usmcmom]

Just as I thought. Ken's idea of serving others really isn't very sacrificial, is it?

My husband travels quite a bit too. He's never EVER referred to his work as "serving others." He refers to it as...um...traveling for work. I was lucky enough to "crisscross" Europe with him for a month this summer - half of it was work (loosely defined :D ) and half was vacation. We DID help an elderly woman on and off the plane in Italy because she'd never flown before. I guess that makes us missionaries.

Seriously, Ken, the way you misrepresent yourself is rather disturbing. And the way you whine about having a sick wife is certainly not loving her the way Christ loved the Church. Did her surgery interfere with your basketball or something? You poor thing.

[formergothardite]

Ken, when you wouldn't give up basketball or sex because of your wife being sick, you don't get to talk about how sacrificially you have lived. You have lived nothing but a self-serving life. Having a fairly cushy job that you chose and get paid a lot to do isn't suffering Ken. You are not a special suffering snowflake for doing that. You are actually making light of the suffering Christ did to pretend traveling for a job is comparable.

Only two comments from readers on that post. I bet they got a whole lot more that they wouldn't post.

[salex]

Ken, when you wouldn't give up basketball or sex because of your wife being sick, you don't get to talk about how sacrificially you have lived. You have lived nothing but a self-serving life. Having a fairly cushy job that you chose and get paid a lot to do isn't suffering Ken. You are not a special suffering snowflake for doing that. You are actually making light of the suffering Christ did to pretend traveling for a job is comparable.

Only two comments from readers on that post. I bet they got a whole lot more that they wouldn't post.

But remember, he has also compared giving lori backrubs to Christ dying for the church.

[formergothardite]

Another post defending his stance on porn. :lol: That was clearly written by Saint Ken, not Saint Lori. For them to devote this many posts to trying to prove they are right they must be getting lots and lots of Christians disagreeing with them.

[polecat]

Another post defending his stance on porn. :lol: That was clearly written by Saint Ken, not Saint Lori. For them to devote this many posts to trying to prove they are right they must be getting lots and lots of Christians disagreeing with them.

Really, this post is like a "get out of hell free" card for pretty much anyone. Let's say there's a couple ... Len (maybe, possibly, could be) looks at porn, but Kori sins too, so stop pointing out his sin, Kori. Geez.

[thoughtful]

Ken's inability to recognize that his own words have led to people thinking badly of him reminds me of the 1980s anti-drug PSA:

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Don't you just want to yell at him, "Ken, I think that from you, OK? I think it from reading you!"

[brillig]

Here's what I want to know. When does it come to light that Lori is not at all involved with the blog. My mother was horribly "biblically" abused (including rape - because husbands CAN and DO rape their property - I mean wives) but my mom *never* completely gave in. She carefully hid that beautiful kernel of herself.

I don't think Lori's blog is hers. Or at least I'd like to think that there is a Lori somewhere, carefully protecting herself.

[Coco]

I never really know what Ken is trying to say, but this post did make me wonder if he was saying to Lori "You found a way to deal with that tumor...you can find a way to deal with my porn." It's clear he doesn't want to stop looking at porn and he's furiously trying to find ways minimize and justify his own personal train wreck. Most Christian men, when talking about porn, would remind husbands how destructive it is in a marriage and how likely they are to lose their family if they don't stop. Not Ken. No, he has to spend his time telling women how minor it is in the whole scheme of things. After all, it's not a brain tumor.

Are we going to get another of Ken's sermons this weekend? I wonder if he asked his church leaders if they'd let him preach a series of sermons and they told him no; that's why he's "preaching" a weekly sermon on a woman's blog. It's so odd to me that he has the time to post on the blog so frequently. Most men would just start a blog of their own and "mentor" men; but that wouldn't allow him to so openly hate women and also troll for potential dates.

i've stopped reading their blog, but if Ken made this comparison, he is a monster.

i think the blog posts he writes are meant to influence Lori. Comments and readers are just secondary.

[lawfulevil]

Sounds like he's up to considerably more than a little jerkin' the gherkin, to me.

In my younger, more foolish days I dated someone a little older than me (mid 20s to my 18) without Googling them. It eventually turned out they were cheating on their fiancee, who financially supported them but wasn't putting out enough for their taste due to her CANCER. The poor baby was FORCED to go lie to a teenager to get some nookie.

After I found out about her he sent me all KINDS of bullshit and excuses by email and passive-aggressive Livejournal posts trying to "prove" why it'd be better for me to keep my mouth shut and keep putting out. They sounded about like this shit from Ken.

[jerkit]

Uggghh lori railed on some woman for suggesting "love languages" as a means to improve your relationship. Lori basically sad NEWP, submit, shut up, put out. And then she posts this on FB:

[salex]

Uggghh lori railed on some woman for suggesting "love languages" as a means to improve your relationship. Lori basically sad NEWP, submit, shut up, put out. And then she posts this on FB:

Reember, Ken was all into this shit a while back. The "ask your husband 1 or 3 or whatever it was things that would make him happier" I don't believe he suggested this was a two way deal where then we were to tell our husbands what would make us happier.

The love languages book may have some bit of valid pop psychology, but it seems like training wheels for beginners or a last gasp for people who should never have married... don't most real/happy couples know and care what makes their partner happy without a book?

[Koala]

Uggghh lori railed on some woman for suggesting "love languages" as a means to improve your relationship. Lori basically sad NEWP, submit, shut up, put out. And then she posts this on FB:

I just saw that! She is the most hateful woman I have ever met.

Here is her response to the lady who just today suggested the book on love languages:

Lori Alexander:

This sounds great but the only problem with this is if one spouse doesn't live up to the other spouse's expectations of their "love language." Then what? We can't force them to love us the way we want to be and feel loved. We only have control of ourselves and how we love others. The fewer expectations we have of our spouse, the happier and more content we will be.

:roll: Let's be real here. What she really means is that the husband should give fuck all what's important to his wife, but the wife should be completely attuned to her husband's every whim.

[polecat]

Shoot, a glitch ate my reply.

I mean, sure, we can't force someone to love us in a particular way. But Lorken, who clearly have only experienced a small, mean, self-serving kind of love, don't get that when you love someone, you want to do things that make them happy and that make them FEEL loved. I don't need Lorken or a book to tell me to do things that my husband enjoys because I LOVE MY HUSBAND.

Unlike a certain woman I could name ...

[ViolaSebastian]

I'm still stewing about her blog entry where she said addiction wasn't a disease. I wonder if her physician father feels that way. Ah, classic Lori, and spoken as a woman who clearly hasn't experienced a relationship with an addict in her own life.

[littlemommy]

I'm still stewing about her blog entry where she said addiction wasn't a disease. I wonder if her physician father feels that way. Ah, classic Lori, and spoken as a woman who clearly hasn't experienced a relationship with an addict in her own life.

Except Ken's possible porn addiction. I say that with great glee as I imagine his face while reading that.

[browncoatslytherin]

Except Ken's possible porn addiction. I say that with great glee as I imagine his face while reading that.

with how much they've posted about it lately, i'd say that possibility is getting stronger and stronger

[usmcmom]

So...a very reasonable man commented on Lori's post today.

Rob · 5 hours ago

Lori, i have followed your blog for the last few months. As a Christian husband and father i find that we all sometimes like to take the easy way by blaming others for actions, thoughts and language. We home school 3 children and i have a small business which takes up so much of my time. I understand what you are saying, but as a man we have to ensure we are giving our wives what they need and take very seriously what we need to do to ensure our wives are happy. Yes i am gone alot, an most days i am completely exhausted when i get home, but so is my wife. She teaches our kids and looks after the house. I think we all need to put our focus on our spouses and not ourselves and are living for Christ, being obedient to him?? I know Lori what you are saying about wives being obedient, but as a husband am being obedient as a husband. If we as husbands do a better job at understanding and paying more attention to the needs of our wives than the divorce rate would hopefully drop drastically. Just my thoughts

As you can imagine, Klorien jumped on him - "This blog is for women!!!!" Funny, when a male commenter agrees with them (and Rob wasn't even disagreeing with them) they don't start screeching about how this blog is for women!

And then to make things even more disgusting, Whatshisname chimes in.

amanhiswife · 2 hours ago

Rob,

I love the heart behind your message so don't take this to hard...We need to focus way less on making sure we are making our wives happy and way more on loving our wives like Christ loved us. Those are far from the same thing. And lastly, may "love" be defined by scripture and not the modern world, wife or husband. In Christ

For the love of Pete! Can somebody finally tell me why a Christ-like love has to be separate and apart from making our spouse happy?!? Why can't these men grasp the concept that you can make your wife happy AND love her like Christ loved the church. In fact, if you are not making your wife happy, you are NOT loving her like Christ loved the church. CM's definition of love makes me physically ill and I'm sure his wife quite literally finds it very painful.

OH! And Ken reminds his readers he just doesn't have time to start his own blog. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[polecat]

So...a very reasonable man commented on Lori's post today.

As you can imagine, Klorien jumped on him - "This blog is for women!!!!" Funny, when a male commenter agrees with them (and Rob wasn't even disagreeing with them) they don't start screeching about how this blog is for women!

And then to make things even more disgusting, Whatshisname chimes in.

For the love of Pete! Can somebody finally tell me why a Christ-like love has to be separate and apart from making our spouse happy?!? Why can't these men grasp the concept that you can make your wife happy AND love her like Christ loved the church. In fact, if you are not making your wife happy, you are NOT loving her like Christ loved the church. CM's definition of love makes me physically ill and I'm sure his wife quite literally finds it very painful.

OH! And Ken reminds his readers he just doesn't have time to start his own blog. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

CM's response makes me really sad. I can't even imagine what it must be like to be married to someone who does not care one bit about my happiness. It's heartbreaking to think of a woman who has struggled with depression and suicidal ideations to be in a relationship with a man who refuses to show her kindness and love because somehow he has decided that that goes against the Bible. It is horrifying to think that their kids are growing up thinking that this screwed-up, unhealthy dynamic is in any way normal or Christ-like.

Mrs. CM, you're not perfect. I'm sure that you, like every other woman and man in the world, have plenty of flaws. But that doesn't mean you're not deserving of love and kindness. You are. You deserve to be with someone who cherishes you not in spite of your flaws but because of them. Someone who thinks it's endearing the way you leave the dishcloth all sloppy in the sink instead of hanging it nicely. Someone who smiles to himself and puts the TP roll back on the holder without complaint because for some reason, you never put it back on. Someone who lets you warm your icy feet on his toasty legs even though he kind of sort of hates that. And you deserve to be with someone whose flaws you love and embrace just as much.

God, I'm so going to hug and kiss and THANK my husband when he walks through the door. He's certainly no angel, but he's kind and loving and sweet, and even his worst days are light years ahead of these monstrous men.

[usmcmom]

I'm especially sad when I think of what CM is modeling for his kids. His daughter will likely grow up to expect and accept abusive treatment. His son will likely grow up to abuse his wife.

I wonder about that the way I wonder about Klorien's kids and their marriages. I especially think their son Ryan, based on Lori's descriptions, is quite the dictator in his home. I've said this before but I get the feeling he has brow beaten his wife. Why else would she allow him to treat her babies the way he does, unless she is also an abusive parent?

These people are ruining their children and, in turn, their grandchildren. They are doing it in the name of religion and it is infuriating. This is not what God intended for a Christian home.

[Coco]

CM said, "may love be defined by scripture". That would be 1 Cor. 13:

patient, kind, not envious, not boasting, not proud, not dishonoring, not self-seeking, not easily angered, keeps no record of wrongs, rejoices in the truth instead of evil, always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

seems like that kind of love would make a wife happy.

[polecat]

CM said, "may love be defined by scripture". That would be 1 Cor. 13:

patient, kind, not envious, not boasting, not proud, not dishonoring, not self-seeking, not easily angered, keeps no record of wrongs, rejoices in the truth instead of evil, always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

seems like that kind of love would make a wife happy.

Well, seems like Ken and L. Ron have failed miserably ...