Well this just isn't creepy at all... Raquel Interviews Men

[formergothardite]

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Miss Raquel has interviewed yet another young man in her desperate plee to find a husband who will take her dancing in the rain. They are usually assholes who view women as objects, not people, and this guy is no different. But he does take creepy to a different level.

Oh man, you have no idea. I’ve found that a girl’s relationship with her family is one of the most crucial matters in discovering who she is and how she’ll act in marriage. I’ve become so attached to this conviction that I’ll probably fall in love with my wife’s mother before I fall in love with my wife.

:? That is what every woman wants to hear. "I fell in love with your mother way before I fell in love with you."

If he permits me to marry his daughter, then he is also responsible for a healthy marriage life for us

No, pretty much the only people responsible for making the marriage a healthy one are, you know, the people who are actually married to each other.

There are some very clear desires I have for a wife that include modesty, generosity, intuition, a healthy relationship with her father, and a smokin’ hot body

:roll:

I will go into marriage knowing that both of us will influence the other in our theology until, ten years from now, we will believe pretty much the same thing. So she had better be willing to change!

I have no idea what he is blathering on about but in 10 years you might be totally different people. You aren't going to become little clones of each other.

Girls are supposed to be girly, and if they act or dress like boys, it is typically an indication of early childhood sexual abuse. While that’s not the case 100% of the time, it is very common

I would like proof of this, doubt he has any.

[Guest Anonymous]

I am on my phone and so cannot post the appropriate eye roll and vomit smileys. Bleuch...

[Conuly]

The part about tomboys is another quote, right? And yes, tres creepy.

[Spider Burps]

Girls are supposed to be girly, and if they act or dress like boys, it is typically an indication of early childhood sexual abuse. While that’s not the case 100% of the time, it is very common.

Ya hear that Raquel? Your blue jeans and manly fur hat are indicative of early childhood sexual abuse!

[formergothardite]

The part about tomboys is another quote, right? And yes, tres creepy.

It is, for some reason the screen kept messing up and I couldn't get it to go in italics.

Even creepier, after writing stuff like that, he works with women who have been sexually abused. :(

[VooDooChild]

:roll: She sure does find some tools, doesn't she? I love how he states so surely that non-girly girls have been sexually abused. Tool.

[DefraudedbyGothard]

It sounds creepy, but really it just sounds foolish and immature. I would bet he is repeating something he heard and thinks it makes him sound deeply manly and knowing. :lol: If he doesn't snap out of it down the line he is in for a world of hurt.

Fool.

[fakepigtails73]

http://god-sdaughter.blogspot.com/

Miss Raquel has interviewed yet another young man in her desperate plee to find a husband who will take her dancing in the rain. They are usually assholes who view women as objects, not people, and this guy is no different. But he does take creepy to a different level.

Oh man, you have no idea. I’ve found that a girl’s relationship with her family is one of the most crucial matters in discovering who she is and how she’ll act in marriage. I’ve become so attached to this conviction that I’ll probably fall in love with my wife’s mother before I fall in love with my wife.

:? That is what every woman wants to hear. "I fell in love with your mother way before I fell in love with you."

If he permits me to marry his daughter, then he is also responsible for a healthy marriage life for us

No, pretty much the only people responsible for making the marriage a healthy one are, you know, the people who are actually married to each other.

There are some very clear desires I have for a wife that include modesty, generosity, intuition, a healthy relationship with her father, and a smokin’ hot body

:roll:

I will go into marriage knowing that both of us will influence the other in our theology until, ten years from now, we will believe pretty much the same thing. So she had better be willing to change!

I have no idea what he is blathering on about but in 10 years you might be totally different people. You aren't going to become little clones of each other.

Girls are supposed to be girly, and if they act or dress like boys, it is typically an indication of early childhood sexual abuse. While that’s not the case 100% of the time, it is very common

I would like proof of this, doubt he has any.

It's in the nature of things that the mother-in-law gets on hubby's nerves...In fact, a big section of the "classics" of vaudeville and theater where I'm at have the "mother-in-law from Hell" as a vilain. :dance:

I know that "MILFs" and "cougars" are very popular in lad mags, apparently (and Racquel, this guy def. sounds like a porn user, nothing wrong with that AFAIC ) so if you're looking for a male virgin AND a guy who's never look at skin mags (and here I show my age, people's first forays in porn watching are online) I don't think this one is it. And what is if the girl's mother is dead? He wouldn't court her? Fucked up. Another messed up thing is what he says re: sexually abused women and their clothing choices. Asshole.

Oh, and what I bolded: want some fries and a coke with that, sir?? :roll:

He's likely one of those Nice Guys that have impossible requirements for a potential gf but get all special snowflake hurt when the girl they like has standards of her own; you know, the ones that are lobbying the govt. to declare their lack of sex life a "public health crisis" like cancer or diabetes (no joke!!) :roll:

ETA: he says that he's a screenwriter. What did he write? I can say that I'm a Governor General of Canada Prize winner for French language novel of the year, that doesn't make it true. And what is it with fundies and their having "Shawshank redemption" as fave film all the time ? I really like this film , sucks that so many fundies like it as well.

[debrand]

ll people are tempted to sell themselves short, and a woman’s easiest way is to exploit herself sexually, whether by literally selling her body, or by simply wearing clothing that may be sexually enticing to men.

What? How does wearing sexual clothing compare to prostitution?

And for a man, modesty may be better phrased as humility. We men don’t typically try to show some kind of cleavage, but we do love to “flex our muscles†in various ways. The less a man shows off, the more he values modesty.

Unless they are chunky, most guys don't have cleavage. Does he not understand that heterosexual females are attracted to male bodies?

ut either way, I definitely want to commit time before we kiss, and to hold to that commitment. I asked a married couple why they waited until their wedding day to kiss. She said, “It wasn’t about morality – it was a practice to see if he could lead me in self-control.â€

Why should your husband lead you in self control? I don't understand that thinking. SHouldn't you be responsible for your own self control?

23. Is there anything that you would appreciate girls doing differently in order to help you maintain your purity?

I’m more of a feminist – I think girls who sexualize themselves usually do it because men have treated them poorly. A lot of women who draw me in sexually do so because they hate men and have grown fangs to protect themselves from me. It’s counter-intuitive, but it’s true.

:lol: If he is attracted to a woman and she is sexually powerful that means what....that she has fangs in her vagina and isn't afraid to use them?

[B5SnowDog]

It is, for some reason the screen kept messing up and I couldn't get it to go in italics.

Even creepier, after writing stuff like that, he works with women who have been sexually abused. :(

Shit, talk about the fox guarding the hen house...

[debrand]

Shit, talk about the fox guarding the hen house...

A lot of men like tomboys.

[Buzzard]

Shit, talk about the fox guarding the hen house...

Yeah... so... Here's the kickstarter link to the movie that hes making

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vol ... -sex-trade

Someone has quite a hang up...

eta - he's in the very end of the plea for money.

[Lostie]

That's certainly an interesting guy she's found there. I noted his occupation of "Screenwriter, Co-Founder 'Volviendo'"and it's something I'd never heard of. So, I looked it up and what did I find?

VOLVIENDO is a documentary that follows three filmmakers as they research for a fictional feature film about a sex slave from Latin America.



But after a dangerous trip through a dozen Latin countries, their hearts are changed by the brokenness of the victims, and their quest to make a movie becomes a compelling story within itself.

​

With first-hand interviews on the front lines of this social injustice, "VOLVIENDO†digs to the universal roots of the issue and presents a comprehensive solution that involves you.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand it actually sounds like they're not being super judgey, but based on my knowledge of fundies that seems unlikely. On the plus side, his writing seems a lot better than some of the SOTDRT grads.

ETA: cross posted with Buzzard

[Anise]

I find it creepiest that he refers to himself as a feminist, but has all these weird ideas about modesty, femininity, and marriage. :roll:

[crazyforkate]

It's quite obvious he thinks Raquel is after him too, from some hints he drops...good luck with that, buddy.

[Anise]

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand it actually sounds like they're not being super judgey, but based on my knowledge of fundies that seems unlikely.

I find it worrisome that he is involved in such a film project. It seems to me that his viewpoint in regards to modesty is not inconsistent with victim-blaming.

" a woman’s easiest way is to exploit herself sexually, whether by literally selling her body, or by simply wearing clothing that may be sexually enticing to men."

[B5SnowDog]

Why should your husband lead you in self control? I don't understand that thinking. SHouldn't you be responsible for your own self control?

Yeah, it's hardly self-control if someone else is controlling you.

[EmiGirl]

A lot of men like tomboys.

The fundies would probably tell them they're exhibiting homosexual tendencies and need an immediate program to pray away the gay.

[Lostie]

I find it worrisome that he is involved in such a film project. It seems to me that his viewpoint in regards to modesty is not inconsistent with victim-blaming.

" a woman’s easiest way is to exploit herself sexually, whether by literally selling her body, or by simply wearing clothing that may be sexually enticing to men."

So true.

I feel bad for anyone they 'interviewed' for their film. I feel like it was probably a pretty exploitive project. And it seems clear from Dougie's exploits that if there are any kind of ethics codes for documentaries that they are easily skirted. One wonders if they'll submit the movie to Dougie's film fest.

[wild little fox]

Even creepier, after writing stuff like that, he works with women who have been sexually abused. :(

WTF?!?! Who on earth decided he was an appropriate person to work with sexual abuse survivors?

[formergothardite]

He seems to put such blame on women for any of his sexual issues (women draw him in sexually and then reject him because there is something wrong with them, it couldn't be him who has the problem) that I can't imagine him treating sexually abuse women well.

I do have to wonder if Miss Raquel jumped on the help sex slaves bandwagon because she had a crush on him. It really seems like she is doing thi

[loveandwar]

Ooh, this one's close to my age. I'm gonna have fun with this...

When I’m sober-minded, I like to see girls wear clothing that expresses their femininity without leading my eyes to the sexual parts of their body. I must say that, if you (girls) want a sober-minded man to be attracted to you, this must also be your aim.

First of all, what does "sober-minded" even mean? I've been in church most of my life and I've never heard that phrase.

Anyway, some women have curves, and even if they walk around in a giant t-shirt and sweats, you can still tell. Here's an easy solution: DON'T LOOK!

This is a tough question. There are some very clear desires I have for a wife that include modesty, generosity, intuition, a healthy relationship with her father, and a smokin’ hot body.

Ok, so you want a wife with a "smokin' hot body" but you don't want to "lead your eyes to...their body"? Either you're looking or you're not, kid. Be honest!

I will go into marriage knowing that both of us will influence the other in our theology until, ten years from now, we will believe pretty much the same thing. So she had better be willing to change!

You're kidding me, right? SHE had better be willing to change? Because it's NOT MANLY enough for you to change your mind, she has to change hers! :doh:

We all know flirting when we see it, and to me, it’s dangerous.

Nope, it's actually quite fun.

I highly regard the process of courtship, and I think it’s important for me and other grooms-to-be to establish her father as important and responsible in the marriage. If he permits me to marry his daughter, then he is also responsible for a healthy marriage life for us; that is extremely important.

I can just see my dad if some guy tried to do this with him:

Guy: I really like your daughter, and I would like your permission to marry her!

Dad: Have you asked her?

Guy: No.

Dad: Then what are you asking me for?! Am I marrying you? GO ASK HER!

A healthy marriage is between the husband and wife, NOT his or her parents.

Girls are supposed to be girly, and if they act or dress like boys, it is typically an indication of early childhood sexual abuse. While that’s not the case 100% of the time, it is very common. That being said, a tomboyish girl should not be condemned in the church, but nurtured and told that she is beautiful regardless of how she dresses.

NO NO NO NO and again I say NO. Some girls just aren't stereotypically "girly." And some guys like that. Don't attach labels or make up crap about so-called "tomboys," just say that YOU, personally, prefer a more "girly girl" or whatever.

:roll:

[prairiemuffin]

Wow. He's a special snowflake, isn't he?

"Smiles are the prettiest things girls can wear! But only if they have a smokin' hot body!"

"I want my future wife to question theology and have a critical mind! But she better be prepared to end up thinking the same thing as I do!"

Also, wtf is this about:

"All women have failed in keeping their physical and emotional purity."

[ILoveJellybeans]

Raquel, stay single, all the men you know are douchebags. There are men out there outside of fundie world who know how to treat a woman right, and will treat you like a human being not an object.

I’ll probably fall in love with my wife’s mother before I fall in love with my wife

Mother/daughter threesome fantasy?

Or is this guy going to get his mother in law pregnant and have a child who is their own uncle.

[formergothardite]

Wow. He's a special snowflake, isn't he?

"Smiles are the prettiest things girls can wear! But only if they have a smokin' hot body!"

"I want my future wife to question theology and have a critical mind! But she better be prepared to end up thinking the same thing as I do!"

Also, wtf is this about:

"All women have failed in keeping their physical and emotional purity."

I can't help but think that this is a jab at Raquel since she goes on about how she has kept her emotional purity all the time.