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This is only the start but it is a good one.

WASHINGTON (AP) - Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor on Wednesday denied a request to block part of the federal health care law that requires employee health-care plans to provide insurance coverage for the morning-after pill and similar emergency contraception pills.

Hobby Lobby Stores and a sister company, Mardel Inc., sued the government, claiming the mandate violates the religious beliefs of its owners.

In an opinion, Sotomayor said the stores fail to satisfy the demanding legal standard for blocking the requirement on an emergency basis. She said the companies may continue their challenge to the regulations in the lower courts.

Company officials say they must decide whether to violate their faith or face a daily $1.3 million fine beginning Jan. 1 if they ignore the law.

Attorneys for the government have said the drugs do not cause abortions and that the U.S. has a compelling interest in mandating insurance coverage for them.

In ruling against the companies last month, U.S. District Judge Joe Heaton said churches and other religious organizations have been granted constitutional protection from the birth-control provisions but that "Hobby Lobby and Mardel are not religious organizations."

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This makes me all warm and fuzzy. Although I have disagreed with some rulings Sotomayor made when she was serving in lower courts, on this one she hit it out of the park.

And "Hobby Lobby and Mardel are not religious organizations"? Hee.

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I think I will continue to not shop at hobby lobby. They are spending more money fighting this mandate then they would spend on insurance for their employees.

Besides, I am not impressed with their selection and I can get the same things at Michele's and Joann's.

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I will just never get this stance from companies. It's not like the owners are being force fed birth control pills now. It's the same thing with gay marriage and abortion. Just because it's legal doesn't mean you're now going to be forced to get "gay married" or have an abortion.

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Link please?

http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2012/ ... ions.html/

I spend a lot of money on my hobbies. I won't shop at Hobby Lobby, first because they specifically state (and have forever) on their front windows that they reserve the right to search your belongings. Nope. You better have some suspicion. Second, because of this generally assholish behavior. I have a cousin who works for them, too (sorry, cuz, your employer sux).

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I think these christian companies and there hand wringing over birth control is a smoke screen. They don't want to pay for employee health insurance benefits, so they're going to get out of it by making all their staff part time (under 30 hours a week). But they're *only* doing that because the evil government is making them pay for birth control. Isn't the government just so evil, y'all?

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I think these christian companies and there hand wringing over birth control is a smoke screen. They don't want to pay for employee health insurance benefits, so they're going to get out of it by making all their staff part time (under 30 hours a week). But they're *only* doing that because the evil government is making them pay for birth control. Isn't the government just so evil, y'all?

QFT, this. You win an internets. :clap:

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I think these christian companies and there hand wringing over birth control is a smoke screen. They don't want to pay for employee health insurance benefits, so they're going to get out of it by making all their staff part time (under 30 hours a week). But they're *only* doing that because the evil government is making them pay for birth control. Isn't the government just so evil, y'all?

I could not agree more.

What gets me about all of this is that they get to write off things as business expenses, including labor. I don't know about health insurance being a tax write-off, but I would be surprised if it were NOT so.

I purposely shop at places that employ my family members (and I have a very large extended family) but I won't shop at HL. I was at one in Denver once and I was not impressed. I wondered what all the fuss was.

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:text-bravo::text-merryxmas: Happy Holidays to you, Hobby Lobby. Santa gave you exactly what you deserved. You are not a religious institution but a retail store. Get over you're holier than thou selves :obscene-birdiedoublered:
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http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/12/28/1378741/hobby-lobby-ignoring-court/

Hobby Lobby is going to defy the court and risk $1.3 million/DAY in fines. Way to care about women's health, Hobby Lobby. I bet these dicks pay for male recreational sex drugs, like Viagra and Cialis.

This tells me that the CEO/owner doesn't give a shit about his company. That he's pretty much done with it and is willing to let it go under, not caring that all of his employees will be out of jobs. Not just the retail staff he doesn't give two fucks about but also the corporate staff, his suppliers, ect. So, basically, he's made his money and is ready to retire and all of his staff and workers can go jump in the lake.

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This tells me that the CEO/owner doesn't give a shit about his company. That he's pretty much done with it and is willing to let it go under, not caring that all of his employees will be out of jobs. Not just the retail staff he doesn't give two fucks about but also the corporate staff, his suppliers, ect. So, basically, he's made his money and is ready to retire and all of his staff and workers can go jump in the lake.

That is exactly what I thought when I read that. Not only will the stores most likely fail (do they even do that much in business daily, most days?) but he will blame everything on the government in an attempt to look like the good guy. He's going to let his stores and employees take the fall for "defending the persecuted Christians."

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Mr. Snowe: 'Wow, that's a bad business decision.'

Me: 'But they're CHRISTIANS.'

Mr. Snowe: ... *shakes head*

So basically, the CEO's morals trump the individual consciences of his employees.

I'm kind of sad that my fundie-friend-on-FB is too caught up in new blessing and holidays to post about this. But I know I can always get my fix here at FJ. Thanks, guys!

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Mr. Snowe: 'Wow, that's a bad business decision.'

Me: 'But they're CHRISTIANS.'

Mr. Snowe: ... *shakes head*

So basically, the CEO's morals trump the individual consciences of his employees.

I'm kind of sad that my fundie-friend-on-FB is too caught up in new blessing and holidays to post about this. But I know I can always get my fix here at FJ. Thanks, guys!

This guy has no morals. Well, his morals are "I can't do what I want, I can't micromange my employees health care decisions and actions in the bedroom so I'm going to let the company fold. I don't care, I've got money of own."

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I think these christian companies and there hand wringing over birth control is a smoke screen. They don't want to pay for employee health insurance benefits, so they're going to get out of it by making all their staff part time (under 30 hours a week). But they're *only* doing that because the evil government is making them pay for birth control. Isn't the government just so evil, y'all?

So first its a smoke screen. Then when its not, they just don't know anything about business? I love how your opinion changed drastically every time a new piece of info comes out. Face it, you just don't like that they are pro-life and you'll say anything to make them look bad.

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I knew you just couldn't quit us!!! Your nuggets of wisdom, how can we know what to think without them?!!!!

The morning after pill doesn't cause an abortion, so they really don't have leg to stand on when saying that it violates their religious beliefs.

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Unless, of course jericho thinks that companies should be able to deny covering medical care based on just made up shit?

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I knew you just couldn't quit us!!! Your nuggets of wisdom, how can we know what to think without them?!!!!

The morning after pill doesn't cause an abortion, so they really don't have leg to stand on when saying that it violates their religious beliefs.

Your reply has nothing to do with my post above. LauraElle just gave an excellent example of how you libs on freejinger spin the facts to support your ideals. That is what I was pointing out.

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