Meet Hellena and Currawong

[ExCatholic]

What do these people do for money?! A part of me would love to flitter around dressed all in one color, naming my kids wacky names all while making fiber art, but we have bills to pay!

I have no idea. She says she wants money to be a gentle drizzle from who knows where that gently greases the clogs of her life without her having to run after it. I took that to mean they don't work regular jobs.

Something about hippies like this (not all hippies) sets my teeth on edge. I have very little patience for metaphysical musings when there are small children you should be caring for.

Raw sex is just sex without a condom or other barrier. See raw doggin' it, etc. Funnily enough I've previously only heard it refer to gay men having anal without a condom. Maybe she and bird man have evolved beyond gender?

[sparkles]

I'm pretty sure the only used clothing that doesn't violate the TOU on Etsy is vintage. And that stuff ain't vintage. I'm not sure exactly what it IS, but that's another issue. Do I hear Regretsy calling?

Every time I think I've read/seen it all, someone else comes along who's even more WTF?

[snarkbillie]

Raw sex is just sex without a condom or other barrier. See raw doggin' it, etc. Funnily enough I've previously only heard it refer to gay men having anal without a condom. Maybe she and bird man have evolved beyond gender?

Ah. I had never heard that term. I've been married for over a decade so I've been out of the loop on this stuff.

[MrsKay]

I got brave and Google'd "raw sex". Urban Dictionary gave me this:

1. Sex with lack of protection, condom-less. Is used mostly in the gay community to solicit intercourse without a condom with strangers. Synonym of Bare Back sex.

"I had raw sex with 5 guys last night at a sex party"

2. The act of having; passionate, sweaty, hot, sex, (sometimes in the jungle, the mighty jungle of course)

Heidi and I had raw sex on the floor of her apartment, we couldn't make it to the bed.

One of my favorite random answers during the search was simply "squirrel cage". That screams Hellena and Currydong. I pictured them getting their freak on, draped in matted, rank, sweaty fur, in a cage-like sweat lodge made of sticks and branches.

[crazyforkate]

Sex would be pretty raw in the other sense if you'd just pushed a baby out...yeah, that's a different birth, but seriously, I just can't get over that. I've never had a baby, but sex right after? How is that at all pleasurable? Ow.

[Terrie]

Skimming the first couple pages, all I get is "What a bunch of pseduo-mystical navel gazing."

[pixydust]

Sex would be pretty raw in the other sense if you'd just pushed a baby out...yeah, that's a different birth, but seriously, I just can't get over that. I've never had a baby, but sex right after? How is that at all pleasurable? Ow.

Seeing that you aren't supposed to have sex for 6 weeks after you have a vaginal birth (to make sure any tears, etc are healed) and many women can't do it even then, I can't imagine it being healthy or comfortable for her....hey maybe THAT is what raw sex is! She was raw and they had sex!

BTW, I'm just picturing the midwives giving advice as they got it on, "Now Carrawong, gently caress Helena's buttocks....yes, like that". Tell me I'm not the only one!

[JesusFightClub]

Sex would be pretty raw in the other sense if you'd just pushed a baby out...yeah, that's a different birth, but seriously, I just can't get over that. I've never had a baby, but sex right after? How is that at all pleasurable? Ow.

Ah, but....I'm going to hate myself for saying this, but the phrase "throwing a sausage down Princes Street" comes to mind ;)

[Witsec7]

Ah, but....I'm going to hate myself for saying this, but the phrase "throwing a sausage down Princes Street" comes to mind ;)

[OkToBeTakei]

Ah, but....I'm going to hate myself for saying this, but the phrase "throwing a sausage down Princes Street" comes to mind ;)

:lol: :lol: Or like shagging a torn duffle-coat pocket.

I read that entry, whilst having the raw sex to bring on twin number 2, the umbilical cord was hanging down. But it's all ok the midwife had some handy dandy 'ties' because the clamps were uncomfortable for Hellatrix. NOW..re-read, all that and remember they had sex. Yum!

[Arete]

Forget the episode of Wife Swap, I would pay to be a fly on the wall in a face-to-face meeting of Currawong and Steve Maxwell.

[lilah]

She's into the radical free-birth thing too. When she had her twins, labor stalled after the first one was born. So she and Currawong went off and had sex, which didn't help much, so they waited for 2 days for the other twin to be born. 2 days!

I remember reading about that and thinking she was the most batshit person ever and also the most lucky that her babies didn't die.

[crazyforkate]

Forget the episode of Wife Swap, I would pay to be a fly on the wall in a face-to-face meeting of Currawong and Steve Maxwell.

How about some kind of reality show where Hellena, Currawong, the PP, Zsu and their combined 15 kids all have to live together? I predict a nuclear explosion in 10 minutes flat.

[Arete]

How about some kind of reality show where Hellena, Currawong, the PP, Zsu and their combined 15 kids all have to live together? I predict a nuclear explosion in 10 minutes flat.

I'll take some of that action. :mrgreen:

[Witsec7]

How about some kind of reality show where Hellena, Currawong, the PP, Zsu and their combined 15 kids all have to live together? I predict a nuclear explosion in 10 minutes flat.

Perfect for a drinking game :clap:

[Peas n carrots]

Or how about some Creatrix & Currawong/Maxwell fan fiction? We should have a contest...vote on whoever writes the best fundie fan fic?

I've seen some messed up stuff...President Taft/Roosevelt slashfic for example...but I think C&C/Maxwells could be epic.

[aubrietta]

I go away for the weekend and come back to see Hellena and Currawong being discussed....I can't ever go on vacation again, every time I do I seem to miss something.

I discovered this blog when her insane twin birth story was making the rounds of natural childbirth and doula blogs and facebook pages. (I'm a doula, but not a very crunchy one) I read back through the whole thing with fascination and horror. It's a great big WTF. Has she taken down her story of Balthazar & Nimue aka the story of her and Currawong?

Anyways... I think it's interesting to note that during her twin birth she was attended by Lisa Barrett, the renegade midwife who has multiple infant deaths under her belt - perfectly healthy babies that would have lived if they had been born in hospital. Lisa Barrett obviously practices fast and loose with what is "safe" and "unsafe" and even she, with her atrociously low standards for safety felt that the two days between births was outside her comfort zone.

Edited to add: Hellena also talks about how she, and her whole family, including the children and Currawong develop crushes on her midwives when she is pregnant and she feels an almost sexual attraction to her midwives because pregnancy is so sexual and they are so intimate in their care for her. So....just add that thought to the umbilical cord dangling raw sex infront of the midwives picture in your head.

[ILoveJellybeans]

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! PASS THE BRAINBLEACH!!!!!!!!

I think childbirth is the least sexy thing that could possibly happen to someone, sure, babies are cute, but the idea of pushing one out of your vag, along with the placenta (have you ever seen one of those, they look like big bags of bloody stuff), you will probably poo while delivering the baby, tear, babies come out covered in slimy stuff, strangers see your vagina.......not sexy, at all.

[OkToBeTakei]

I go away for the weekend and come back to see Hellena and Currawong being discussed....I can't ever go on vacation again, every time I do I seem to miss something.

I discovered this blog when her insane twin birth story was making the rounds of natural childbirth and doula blogs and facebook pages. (I'm a doula, but not a very crunchy one) I read back through the whole thing with fascination and horror. It's a great big WTF. Has she taken down her story of Balthazar & Nimue aka the story of her and Currawong?

Anyways... I think it's interesting to note that during her twin birth she was attended by Lisa Barrett, the renegade midwife who has multiple infant deaths under her belt - perfectly healthy babies that would have lived if they had been born in hospital. Lisa Barrett obviously practices fast and loose with what is "safe" and "unsafe" and even she, with her atrociously low standards for safety felt that the two days between births was outside her comfort zone.

Edited to add: Hellena also talks about how she, and her whole family, including the children and Currawong develop crushes on her midwives when she is pregnant and she feels an almost sexual attraction to her midwives because pregnancy is so sexual and they are so intimate in their care for her. So....just add that thought to the umbilical cord dangling raw sex infront of the midwives picture in your head.

OH GOD!

You win.

[Witsec7]

Lisa's rabbit hole:

http://www.homebirthdotnet.au/

Some critics of Lisa:

http://www.skepticalobdotcom/2011/08/ho ... ds-of.html

ETA: I wanted to add some insight into the crazy world of Hellacious and Curradong and not start a home birth vs hosp. birth mommy war.

[lilith]

What do these people do for money?! A part of me would love to flitter around dressed all in one color, naming my kids wacky names all while making fiber art, but we have bills to pay!

Yet another recipient of Australia's generous family payments. Two adults and seven kids, most under six, would be receiving about $2500 a fortnight, maybe a bit more, and get generous annual payments (I think families recently got $800 per child). It would be more than adequate for their lifestyle.

I once asked my sister, who runs in those sort of circles, what she felt about living indefinitely from a system that she had never paid in to. She informed me that " they" were selling her trees and raping her planet to sell the mineral wealth, so it was fine. I would not be surprised if Helena and co had similar views.

[OkToBeTakei]

Lisa's rabbit hole:

http://www.homebirthdotnet.au/

Some critics of Lisa:

http://www.skepticalobdotcom/2011/08/ho ... ds-of.html

EXP..I cannot get those links to work. But I assume since you searched them it is probably scary shit :cry:

[Witsec7]

Yet another recipient of Australia's generous family payments. Two adults and seven kids, most under six, would be receiving about $2500 a fortnight, maybe a bit more, and get generous annual payments (I think families recently got $800 per child). It would be more than adequate for their lifestyle.

I once asked my sister, who runs in those sort of circles, what she felt about living indefinitely from a system that she had never paid in to. She informed me that " they" were selling her trees and raping her planet to sell the mineral wealth, so it was fine. I would not be surprised if Helena and co had similar views.

So the apx $27,000 US that they need for the Coaster wouldn't be counted against them under this scheme?

Gosh I love this kind of socialism, I just wish I could be on the receiving end of it :D

Takei: I broke the links.

[lilith]

So the apx $27,000 US that they need for the Coaster wouldn't be counted against them under this scheme?

Gosh I love this kind of socialism, I just wish I could be on the receiving end of it :D

Takei: I broke the links.

If they declared it it would count as income and dramatically reduce their payments.

I'm guessing that her etsy, blog, busking and online begging proceeds aren't declared as income.

[OkToBeTakei]

So the apx $27,000 US that they need for the Coaster wouldn't be counted against them under this scheme?

Gosh I love this kind of socialism, I just wish I could be on the receiving end of it :D

Takei: I broke the links.

Yes. I am after a 12 hour shift, a few beers. My mind is still on the hanging umbilical cord sex. I will just trust the links are more brain numbing awful. I am so bad with links. :cry: