Anti-Abortion Measures Move Forward in Colorado

[muffynbear]

I apologize if this has been posted on here before:

http://news.yahoo.com/anti-abortion-mea ... 00617.html

The amendment would prohibit the intentional killing of any innocent person. It would prohibit birth control and in vitro fertilization that kills a person, and "no innocent child created through rape or incest shall be killed for the crime of his or her father.

Also wanted to include: Colorado’s “First Degree Homicide Of Unborn Child Bill†Passes 2nd Reading In House

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/18 ... -in-house/

As reported by the Daily Kos , State Rep. Daniel Kagan (D) reported after the bill passed the second reading:

“…we were unable to prevent the Republican majority in the House from passing on second reading the First Degree Homicide of the Unborn Child bill. Under some circumstances, it makes both termination of pregnancy and the use of the morning after pill a homicide. It also confers personhood on a newly fertilized egg.â€

[Minerva]

:angry-cussingblack:

I hate that "crime of the father" shit. Look, if a rape survivor has a pregnancy she doesn't want to keep, either her or the fetus is going to have to be "punished" for the rapist's crime. The difference is that one is a thinking, feeling human being and the other is A FUCKING FETUS. Seriously, how can they even think of using that rhetoric when they want to do the exact same thing to women?

[Anise]

"It would prohibit birth control and in vitro fertilization that kills a person."

Bye bye hormonal birth control. This wouldn't just target plan B birth control, but also any form of hormonal birth control in the off-chance that an egg is released and it does get fertilized, it won't be able to implant and instead is flushed out of the body. "Personhood of newly fertilized egg" not of zygote that has implanted.

[Bella99]

Bye bye hormonal birth control. This wouldn't just target plan B birth control, but also any form of hormonal birth control in the off-chance that an egg is released and it does get fertilized, it won't be able to implant and instead is flushed out of the body. "Personhood of newly fertilized egg" not of zygote that has implanted.

The in vitro part has me stumped. We had in vitro and at no time did we "kill" a person. Each round, we transferred the optimal number of embryos, froze the rest.

[plaidninja]

What I really want to know is, what will happen to current users if this passes? Will doctors be compelled to release records of everyone with an IUD or an implant, and they'll get a summons to have them removed? Will a government official have to watch to make sure it happened? Will they have to have drug sniffing dogs check the mail for hormonal birth control pills mailed in from out of state?

I chickened out of my IUD last minute, but I'm ready to go get one in protest, and they'll have to jail me and sedate me to get it out. :twisted:

I'm a Christian. A blastocyst isn't a person. It just isn't. it has a 33% chance of even making it down the line. These people need to get away from my uterus.

[sage]

I have to wonder: with all of the pushing and pushing and pushing against Roe in the attempt to "chip away" at it; will these delusional individuals mistakenly push too hard and instead strengthen the ruling? That is my most fervent hope, that one of these laws will go too far and rather than eradicate choice, they will make it more widespread.

I must say that I am positively floored at the momentum this crap has gained, and am beginning to think that the GOP is in its death throes. We all know that a dying animal in pain gets especially vicious before it dies; it's time to show the GOP the door come November. :evil:

[Elle]

Birth control pills aren't an abortion. Why don't those idiots get that?

[sage]

Birth control pills aren't an abortion. Why don't those idiots get that?

Because it blocks the possibility of a baaayyyybeeeee!!! :roll:

After all, the churches need more tithers and the GOP needs more dead soldiers.

Crass, but that's it in a nutshell.

[debrand]

I thought that Colorado was mainly liberal?

Until this election, I thought that those who believed birth control=abortion were on the fringe.

[Librul]

I thought that Colorado was mainly liberal?

Family lived in Colorado for years, and it's a second home. LOTS of crazy fundies in Colo, especially in the Springs area. Ted Haggard, (well, we know how he turned out...), Focus on the Family, a church on every corner, the heavy military presence. Colorado sometimes swings blue, sometimes red, and there are a lot of crunchy granola people and libertarians, but the strain of fundamental conservatism based on the Bible is very strong and powerful.

[Rosa]

Seriously, when Occupy slows down a little I am going to start a project of finding ALL the medications on the market that have been shown to possibly cause or increase the risk of miscarriage, and post them every time someone posts this dumb "oral contraceptives might cause an egg not to implant!" bullshit.

Pull 'em all, or stop targeting the one you just happen not to like, asshole legislators.

[Austin]

Voters sent hoards of teavangelicals to their state legislatures in the 2010 election and gave many of those states GOP majorities in their houses and senates for the first time in years, or at least strong majorities. They know there's no stopping them, especially if there's a GOP governor in office in their state. After years of tepid lip service from republican politicians on abortion, the base finally has a bunch of rogue politicians in office who only care about two things: putting women back in their place (by attacking choice and contraception) and hating the president and blaming him for everything possible (not necessarily in that order).

I think there's a good chance that there will be constitutional challenges on many/most of these measures, but if any GOPer is elected president this year, we will have a far right conservative court for a generation, at a minimum, so I don't have much faith in the judicial branch to protect the rights of women and minorities.

[Librul]

Voters sent hoards of teavangelicals to their state legislatures in the 2010 election and gave many of those states GOP majorities in their houses and senates for the first time in years, or at least strong majorities. They know there's no stopping them, especially if there's a GOP governor in office in their state. After years of tepid lip service from republican politicians on abortion, the base finally has a bunch of rogue politicians in office who only care about two things: putting women back in their place (by attacking choice and contraception) and hating the president and blaming him for everything possible (not necessarily in that order).

I think there's a good chance that there will be constitutional challenges on many/most of these measures, but if any GOPer is elected president this year, we will have a far right conservative court for a generation, at a minimum, so I don't have much faith in the judicial branch to protect the rights of women and minorities.

This. This this this. I have never in my long life seen such an attack on women--from the Church, from the political right, even from other women. We are living in dangerous times.

[PokaDot]

Sheash, it's shit like this that makes me ashamed to be from Colorado.

I wish the freakin' fundies would get the fuck out of my state.

The ColoSpigs Fundie Brigade decided a few years ago that Denver wasn't religious enough and now want to build a shit ton of churches there. I doubt it ever crossed their minds that some people like Denver because it hasn't (yet) been overrun by the Christian Taliban.

[happy atheist]

I'm not allowed to start a thread yet, so here's this:

huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/19/tennessee-abortion-bill_n_1363410.html

The Life Defense Act of 2012, sponsored by state Rep. Matthew Hill (R-Jonesboro), mandates that the Tennessee Department of Health make detailed demographic information about every woman who has an abortion available to the public, including her age, race, county, marital status, education level, number of children, the location of the procedure and how many times she has been pregnant. Each report would also have to include the name of the doctor who performed the procedure.

Not surprisingly, sane people are concerned.

[PokaDot]

I'm not allowed to start a thread yet, so here's this:

huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/19/tennessee-abortion-bill_n_1363410.html

Not surprisingly, sane people are concerned.

Isn't this a violation of HIPAA? Or some other privacy act?

Or do I get to know when a guy gets viagra. How many women he's screwed, and how many times he's gotten a Rx, and if he really needs it?

[genericJname]

I thought that Colorado was mainly liberal?

Denver is but CO Springs is filled with Focus on the Family and all sorts of crazy. And there are also lots of rural areas that tend to swing conservative.

[wtfrenchtoast]

So there's going to be a march in Denver on April 28th. I'm going with a few friends. If anyone wants to meet up, let me know!

[Gizmola]

Quote:

The Life Defense Act of 2012, sponsored by state Rep. Matthew Hill (R-Jonesboro), mandates that the Tennessee Department of Health make detailed demographic information about every woman who has an abortion available to the public, including her age, race, county, marital status, education level, number of children, the location of the procedure and how many times she has been pregnant. Each report would also have to include the name of the doctor who performed the procedure.

Jesus Fucking Christ. Seriously? Seriously? I am speechless. Speechless. What kind of fucked up world are we living in? I wrote a long treatise in another thread on my conspiracy theory about this war on women - and make no mistake, it is a war on women - and now I think that's bullshit because I was trying to make sense of insanity.

I need to do something. I've never been politically active but I need to do something besides talk about it online and contribute to PP. I need to do something. I just don't know what to do. I just know I will never be able to look myself in the eye ever again unless I do something.

[genericJname]

Here is what I could find of the CO bill:

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2 ... 130_01.pdf

It seems stupid and unnecessary, but I don't really know that it sounds anti-abortion :?