Modest mom blog

[19 cats and counting]

http://www.themodestmomblog.com/

Have we discussed her before?  I fell down a rabbit hole after someone posted (on the library thread) a link about keeping girls innocent.

I've just fallen down the rabbit hole, but I'm kinda ashamed that her name is Caroline.

[mango_fandango]

We might've mentioned her modest clothing site a bit. 

I've looked at the blog before but the posts are so long-winded it gets distracting. Especially the link-ups.

[JMarie]

She supported her family for two years (while her husband finished his degree) by selling makeup, hair clips, and a clothing line she started?  I'm clearly doing something wrong. 

http://www.themodestmomblog.com/2014/05/how-i-put-my-husband-through-college-as-a-homeschooling-mom/

http://www.deborahandco.com/about-us/

 

And she sells this on her site, even though it's not clothing-related.

http://www.deborahandco.com/growing-up-duggar/

 

[Nashville92]

She has pinterest also. I tend to wear a lot of maxi skirts so I looked at her modest boards. Some stuff I liked others just weren't for me. She has a ton of stuff on her page though

[polecat]

Was looking at her clothes ... 

Her sizing on the ruffle skirt is weird. Her size 14/xxl has 50" hips? That's got to be a typo. And the waist on that size is 36", about the same as the XL size, which is 34 - 37". Definitely not standard sizing.

Weird.

I think if I were a modest fundy woman (which I am most definitely not as I sit here in my bosom-exposing tank dress), I would be very hesitant to purchase from this site without giving her precise measurements and ensuring I was getting a custom-made dress. And even then ... I think maybe not.

[dairyfreelife]

We have discussed, but I cannot find the old threads without wading through stuff. I recall discussing once about her homeschool year pictures. She has her three eldest hold up grade signs and state what they wanted to be when they grew up. The youngest of the three, but the eldest girl stated she wanted to be a mommy. In the post she wrote her daughter originally stated she wanted to be an ambulance driver, but then decided on being a mommy. Apparently doing both was not an option.

Found the post on her site, it was nearly 4 years ago, where has the time gone?: http://www.themodestmomblog.com/2012/08/first-day-of-homeschool-pictures/ 

[mango_fandango]

The oldest three, especially the boys, all look so similar. From what I remember the oldest is called Mosiah. That's apparently a book in the Book of Mormon- they're likely Mormon then, I don't know how they'd've come across the name otherwise. Correct me if I'm wrong though. I don't know where they are, I don't think it's Utah (although yes I do know Mormons don't just live there.)

[IrishCarrie]

12 hours ago, 19 cats and counting said:

I've just fallen down the rabbit hole, but I'm kinda ashamed that her name is Caroline.

As another Caroline, can I heartily agree with the above and state for the record that I am currently wearing defrauding knee length shorts and a tshirt that exposes all my arms. 

Some Carolines Are Normal.......  Chant it with me, @19 cats and counting !! 

[JillyO]

It's pretty weird that she has models wear these defrauding under-shirt thingies on her modest clothing website: http://www.deborahandco.com/shells/

I mean, I get that fundies do a lot of layering, but how is this cool with her?:

Or maybe she's just using immodest harlots for her own benefit.

[zee_four]

7 hours ago, mango_fandango said:

The oldest three, especially the boys, all look so similar. From what I remember the oldest is called Mosiah. That's apparently a book in the Book of Mormon- they're likely Mormon then, I don't know how they'd've come across the name otherwise. Correct me if I'm wrong though. I don't know where they are, I don't think it's Utah (although yes I do know Mormons don't just live there.)

Nope not Mormon. http://www.themodestmomblog.com/category/courtship/ No talk about wards, temple for wedding sacrament, etc.

[19 cats and counting]

She is as fundie as they come.  She courted, not dated her husband, married at 19 and saved her first kiss for the wedding. 

She refused to use terms like boyfriend before they were married.  

3 hours ago, JillyO said:

It's pretty weird that she has models wear these defrauding under-shirt thingies on her modest clothing website: http://www.deborahandco.com/shells/

I mean, I get that fundies do a lot of layering, but how is this cool with her?:

Or maybe she's just using immodest harlots for her own benefit.

I will admit to wanting one of those.  (I use those bandeau bra type tops for layering).  I lost a lot of weight and of corse my boobs were the first to go.  A lot of dresses that once fit me are very lose at the top.  This could help in that situation.  (I've considered forever 21 crop tops too).

[kettlingur]

Wow, she was the first fundie I ever found (ages ago), I'd completely forgotton she existed. She struck me as kind of sad and bizarre with her courtship story. She and her mother seemed to really want the whole patriarchal deal with the father setting the terms and all, but her dad (from what I remembered) seemed pretty checked out and entirely disinterested in telling her how to lead her relationship. Also she has a crazy thing where she's afraid of being mistaken for a guy, and huge issues with her brother (I think it was her brother) who is in some kind of 'alternative lifestyle' (I think he might be gay, but I never saw her clarify) which seemed to really drive her fundamentalism.

http://www.themodestmomblog.com/2012/07/why-i-wear-skirts-all-the-time/

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In today’s culture people seem to be extremely confused as to which gender they are (or at least many act and look confused). Homosexuality is rampant, as well as other forms of gender confusion. There are people near and dear to my heart that have chosen the homosexual lifestyle. This has made me even more determined to dress as a woman (for that is what God made me), to portray to my children that I am a female and I’m blessed to be one. Men and women properly functioning in their God given roles is one of the best defenses against the relational perversions we find in our present day. I am a woman and have no desire to look like a man (much less act like one). That’s my husbands job : )

As I remember she also had a whole series on how bikinis were symptomatic of the downfall of the USA. They were fairly amusing.

[Shiny]

I'd forgotten all about her! I used to read her blog back in the day. She was always just run of the mill fundie though. Perfect Christian blogger and all that. 

[dairyfreelife]

Decided to browse the blog and came across this gem on her link-up. Apparently our store-bought clothes are causing society to lose order. 

http://thecatholicladyblog.blogspot.com/2016/05/universality-and-ugliness-enemies-of.html

And she ponders if Catholic ladies should swim at all. The comments are just as crazy. 

http://thecatholicladyblog.blogspot.com/2014/03/against-modest-swimsuit.html

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All men are not "born and remain free and equal in rights" as the Declaration of the Rights of Man says. Just as God-given sex roles, strengths, and rules of modesty are different for men and women, so too do rules for swimming apply to men and women. 

Woman is naturally called to nurture her family, to provide a loving ambience for her children and her husband, to excel in the domestic arts such as sewing, cooking, cleaning, music, singing, and the overall management of a household. In short, everything the Holy Ghost mentions in Proverbs 31. Ideally she should not have to do outdoor work or activities outside the home that might brutalize or erode her femininity.

Men in general are more fit to do outdoor work, to be in contact with nature, subduing it, dominating it, and harvesting from it to provide for and protect his family. Boys and men love to explore the woods, climb mountains, hunt animals, and show the scars to prove it. Swimming is related to this rough, tough, more "outdoor" nature of man and is therefore more of a "boy" activity. 

Swimming, like bathing, is by nature a very intimate activity. There is something about the nature of swimming that makes it very easy for a person to forget their normal decorum, inhibitions, manners, propriety, and modesty in demeanour, to just let themselves go. Women have a special role in setting the example for their families and society in all these things. Why is it that we often associate the word "frolic" with beaches? Is that how children should see their mother? 

The word "beach" is so linked to modern neo-pagan immodesty that a counter-Revolutionary Catholic lady could not tell someone "We went to the beach last weekend" without causing him or her to imagine that they went in a bikini, like everyone else. You have to qualify it in order not to give scandal: "We went to a deserted beach with just the family" or "Just the children swam." Our world has taken impurity and immodesty to levels never seen before in history. Going to the beach during the summer is not just a common practice but is practically obligatory If you live within driving distance of the ocean and say "I don't go the beach" you are looked at as strange. 

Should a counter-Revolutionary lady, one who wishes to oppose the corruption of our world, participate in a pastime that is so linked to impurity and sin? 

No. A Catholic lady should not swim.

 

[princessmahina]

Caroline is the closest thing I have to a pet fundie. I've been following her blog for years and generally, I find it difficult to snark on her. I find most of her posts about modesty to be refreshing- she talks a lot about avoiding legalism, how pants can be okay, and how important it is to teach her sons that it doesn't matter how a woman is dressed because all women deserve respect (which is really nice after reading posts by Zsu).

 

11 hours ago, mango_fandango said:

The oldest three, especially the boys, all look so similar. From what I remember the oldest is called Mosiah. That's apparently a book in the Book of Mormon- they're likely Mormon then, I don't know how they'd've come across the name otherwise. Correct me if I'm wrong though. I don't know where they are, I don't think it's Utah (although yes I do know Mormons don't just live there.)

They're not Mormon. I'm almost positive they're Baptist and they live in Missouri.

[Iamhispurity]

48 minutes ago, dairyfreelife said:

Decided to browse the blog and came across this gem on her link-up. Apparently our store-bought clothes are causing society to lose order. 

http://thecatholicladyblog.blogspot.com/2016/05/universality-and-ugliness-enemies-of.html

And she ponders if Catholic ladies should swim at all. The comments are just as crazy. 

http://thecatholicladyblog.blogspot.com/2014/03/against-modest-swimsuit.html

 

She is my go to blog for a bit of Catholic craziness. Especially the moralistic posts.

http://thecatholicladyblog.blogspot.de/2016/05/targets-war-on-women.html   

 http://thecatholicladyblog.blogspot.de/2014/05/dont-give-in.html

 

[mango_fandango]

Ah, thanks for the clarification! I thought they weren't, just that when you google "Mosiah" lots of LDS links appear. 

[AnywhereButHere]

Now I can't wait for summer to get here so that I may frolic and brutalize my femininity. Sounds fun! 

 

[Petrel]

I think my daughter should definitely see me frolicking.  I make a point to frolic with her daily.

[ADoyle90815]

8 hours ago, zee_four said:

Nope not Mormon. http://www.themodestmomblog.com/category/courtship/ No talk about wards, temple for wedding sacrament, etc.

I agree, if she were Mormon, the wedding pictures would be taken outside the temple they were married in. There would also be posts about the "eternal" nature of marriage, and about the next child waiting to be born into the family. There would also be lots of quotes from Mormon leaders, especially after Mormon general conferences.

[mango_fandango]

4 minutes ago, ADoyle90815 said:

I agree, if she were Mormon, the wedding pictures would be taken outside the temple they were married in. There would also be posts about the "eternal" nature of marriage, and about the next child waiting to be born into the family.

I remember watching an episode of One Born Every Minute where one couple was Mormon. They explained that babies wait in Heaven and choose their parents, or something. Makes me wonder why a baby would choose an abusive parent, or why so many babies chose Meechelle and Kelly and not other women. Or why a child would choose PP and Zsu or Steve and Teri Maxwell. The list goes on. What a weird belief.

[EmmieJ]

"Woman is naturally called to nurture her family, to provide a loving ambience for her children and her husband, to excel in the domestic arts such as sewing, cooking, cleaning, music, singing, and the overall management of a household. In short, everything the Holy Ghost mentions in Proverbs 31. Ideally she should not have to do outdoor work or activities outside the home that might brutalize or erode her femininity."

Well, all the pioneer women who worked themselves to the bone, doing both indoor and outdoor work, would probably tell this woman to go suck a lemon.

And I fail as a woman because I do not excel at sewing, music, or singing.  In fact, I am crap at these things.  Somehow, I still managed to have a clean home, put nutritious food on the table for my child, pay the mortgage, without my femininity being too brutalized.  Besides, I like mowing the lawn, pulling up weeds, washing my own car.  What I really love is wearing pants.  All the damn time.  It is so awesome.  So yeah, I fail at her version of femininity.  LOL.

[QuiverDance]

She is just awful.  Her latest blog post made me want to cry. 

[Columbia]

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Woman is naturally called to nurture her family, to provide a loving ambience for her children and her husband, to excel in the domestic arts such as sewing, cooking, cleaning, music, singing, and the overall management of a household. In short, everything the Holy Ghost mentions in Proverbs 31. Ideally she should not have to do outdoor work or activities outside the home that might brutalize or erode her femininity.

 

She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard. Proverbs 31:16

[JMarie]

9 hours ago, dairyfreelife said:

Decided to browse the blog and came across this gem on her link-up. Apparently our store-bought clothes are causing society to lose order. 

http://thecatholicladyblog.blogspot.com/2016/05/universality-and-ugliness-enemies-of.html

And she ponders if Catholic ladies should swim at all. The comments are just as crazy. 

http://thecatholicladyblog.blogspot.com/2014/03/against-modest-swimsuit.html

 

From the first link:

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The universal design of such clothing allows everyone to wear the same thing.  Instead of identifying the wearer as unique and full of personality it is suited for two extremes; laying on the couch watching the same show everyone else is watching OR jogging through the park with other meaningless attired individuals.  This is not a vibrant or Christian society.  The respective appearance and duties of man or woman, butcher, baker or candlestick maker all erode in a universal melting pot.
 

I went to Catholic school for twelve years.  Everyone DID wear the same thing, day in and day out.  And no, we didn't spend our days watching TV or jogging.  We were, you know, learning!  In a very Christian society.