Fox News And Women Working

[debrand]

Fox News has female reporters and hostess so I was a bit surprised by their rant against women being the sole breadwinners.

huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/30/fox-female-breadwinners_n_3358926.html?utm_hp_ref=media

Juan Williams said it was "something going terribly wrong in American society, and it's hurting our children, and it's going to have impact for generations to come."

Fellow guest Erick Erickson said it was a downright repudiation of nature itself.

"When you look at biology, look at the natural world, the roles of a male and a female in society, and other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it's not antithesis, or it's not competing, it's a complementary role. We as people in a smart society have lost the ability to have complementary relationships in nuclear families, and it's tearing us apart."

"The politicians won't say it," Williams said. "They won't admit this!"

At no point were women invited to share their thoughts.

[idonthaveajname]

They can go fuck right off.

[merrily]

.... History fail. Are blindfolds and earplugs a requirement for a job at Faux news?

[salex]

.... History fail. Are blindfolds and earplugs a requirement for a job at Faux news?

perhaps, but knowing their audience expectations certainly is a requirement.

[debrand]

My question is how do can any woman with self respect still work at this channel? Is the pay really that good? Why do women like Megan Kelly continue to stay at such an obviously sexest workplace?

[Childless]

Oh, bite me Fox News. Why must women stay home while men go work? Why can't the woman be the sole breadwinner while the man stays home and cares for the kids (or goes to school, or starts his own business, or whatever else he wants to do)? Why must everyone live in a rigid box? Sometimes, it's the father who is better at childcare than the mother. Wouldn't it be best in that situation if the father were the caregiver? Wouldn't that be doing what's right by the kids, especially if the mother can earn more money than the father? I think everyone should do what is in the best interest of their family and those not in that family should butt the hell out and mind their own business. Something must be lacking in their lives if they're that damn upset about the lives of people they don't even know.

[ILoveJellybeans]

"When you look at biology, look at the natural world, the roles of a male and a female in society, and other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it's not antithesis, or it's not competing, it's a complementary role. We as people in a smart society have lost the ability to have complementary relationships in nuclear families, and it's tearing us apart."

What about spiders. Females are bigger and sometimes eat the male after mating with him.

Nature is beautiful, but also seriously messed up and creepy.

It is possible to have complimentary relationships without the man having to be the boss who has a job and the woman is the slave who does everything the man says and cooks and cleans. What if the woman goes to work while the man stays home to look after their children? What if both of them work, and share the chores? Or what if the man goes to work but his husband is the one who cooks, and they share the cleaning depending on which chores they are good at. Thats complimentary as well.

[lizziesmom]

My question is how do can any woman with self respect still work at this channel? Is the pay really that good? Why do women like Megan Kelly continue to stay at such an obviously sexest workplace?

Women who are true conservatives see the world through different eyes. They are fine with the patriarchial system, for the most part, and consider themselves special. I can tell you that they don't give a rat's ass about the lives of most working women, especially single parents and minorities.

[jaelh]

Look, y'all, "reality shows us that's the truth."

You can't argue with reality.

[salex]

Fox News has female reporters and hostess so I was a bit surprised by their rant against women being the sole breadwinners.

huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/30/fox-female-breadwinners_n_3358926.html?utm_hp_ref=media

I mentioned this report to my husband who said "Nature? Aren't female lions the hunters and more or less everything else while the males sun themselves?" He reiterated he'd love it if I out-earned him from here on out and we both wondered what my sister was supposed to do (50 and single, never married) apparently, move in with our parents or our brother....

I am wondering, however, if this isn't natural, if we should blame it on the men. After all, Lori says the women should be more submissive, even if they are married to a douchebag, so said douchebag will man up. Maybe the men need to step up and get better jobs if they want to earn more than their spouses and, since this is in part because of single mothers raising children alone (either never married or divorced) then it is possible that if men would man up, grow a set and stop being pigs, women might find being in a relationship or married to be preferable to being single. Of course, staying together doesn't mean he'll out earn her, but if this is all dangerously unnatural and bad for the children, these men should be working very hard to keep their women interested in remaining in the relationship AND working harder so that their wives jobs aren't bringing in more money.

Of course, these bozos likely think it would be solved if women were earning less and couldn't leave asshat partners because they couldn't support themselves, but suggesting that women and children are better off with fewer options and lower incomes doesn't sound very natural to me.

I have not watched Fox of my own accord ever, to my knowledge.

[Arete]

Last year I had a couple of mourning doves make a nest in one of my flowerpots. Since they were temporarily part of the household, I did some research on them. It turns out that the Dad dove sits on the nest all day while Mom is out hunting, Mom sits during the night hours and Dad stays nearby to be able to give advanced warning about predators and do the smaller portion of the grocery shopping. Dad actually spends more, ahem, manhours sitting on the nest.

When they hatched, it was Dad doing the daily bathing, feeding the cheeps, and eventually nudging them out of the nest for longer amounts of time. Mom was out bringing worms (food) and twigs (shelter) so the family could be feed and keep the nest structure viable for the expanded family.

Nature, got to love it.

Fox News, not so much.

[Rachel333]

I really wonder how so many smart, educated, hard-working conservative women (and they really are all of those--I don't buy into the "lol, republicans are stupid" stuff) can support a party like that. I have an aunt who is a self-proclaimed feminist, will rail against fundamentalism and misogyny, and supports herself with a high-paying job where she also gets to help others, and yet is a die-hard Republican and a huge fan of Fox News. I don't get it.

[JMarie]

My question is how do can any woman with self respect still work at this channel? Is the pay really that good? Why do women like Megan Kelly continue to stay at such an obviously sexest workplace?

If this is the belief of Fox News, why are women allowed to work there? Shouldn't their jobs be offered to so-called more deserving men?

[curlytoes79]

"When you look at biology, look at the natural world, the roles of a male and a female in society, and other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it's not antithesis, or it's not competing, it's a complementary role. We as people in a smart society have lost the ability to have complementary relationships in nuclear families, and it's tearing us apart."

Although it's true male animals are often "dominant," that doesn't mean they are the equivalent of breadwinners. In many cases, the male mates with the female and then leaves her to raise the youngins. That means the females are the ones finding food or killing prey and bringing it home to the cubs, which is nature's equivalent of going to work. "Dominance" usually means that the males just troll around for more females and fight with other males.

[IrishRose]

Juan Williams is an ass & a liberal.

[JenniferJuniper]

Juan Williams is an ass & a liberal.

He's no progressive. He's an "I'll-play-nice-with-the-boss-and-keep-my-Faux-ass-job" phony sort of liberal. This kind:

"Once I was young and impulsive

I wore every conceivable pin

Even went to the socialist meetings

Learned all the old union hymns

But I've grown older and wiser

And that's why I'm turning you in

So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal"

[Conuly]

.... History fail. Are blindfolds and earplugs a requirement for a job at Faux news?

Biology fail too. Massive, massive fail all around.

[hahe77]

Women who are true conservatives see the world through different eyes. They are fine with the patriarchial system, for the most part, and consider themselves special. I can tell you that they don't give a rat's ass about the lives of most working women, especially single parents and minorities.

In my mom and sisters case, everything is centered around abortion. If the political person or party is against abortion, that is all that matters. Everything said or done outside of their stance on abortion is ignored.

[sparkles]

He's no progressive. He's an "I'll-play-nice-with-the-boss-and-keep-my-Faux-ass-job" phony sort of liberal. This kind:

"Once I was young and impulsive

I wore every conceivable pin

Even went to the socialist meetings

Learned all the old union hymns

But I've grown older and wiser

And that's why I'm turning you in

So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal"

Love me some Phil Ochs! Faux Snooz, not so much.

[turquoise]

If this is the belief of Fox News, why are women allowed to work there? Shouldn't their jobs be offered to so-called more deserving men?

If the women are good-looking and they agree with you it's okay, regardless of their other qualifications. At least that seemed to be the reasoning of some conservative men who supported Sarah Palin.

[turquoise]

I am wondering, however, if this isn't natural, if we should blame it on the men.

But..but...it can't be the man's fault! Don't you know that it's always the woman's fault?

Maybe the men need to step up and get better jobs if they want to earn more than their spouses and, since this is in part because of single mothers raising children alone (either never married or divorced) then it is possible that if men would man up, grow a set and stop being pigs, women might find being in a relationship or married to be preferable to being single. Of course, staying together doesn't mean he'll out earn her, but if this is all dangerously unnatural and bad for the children, these men should be working very hard to keep their women interested in remaining in the relationship AND working harder so that their wives jobs aren't bringing in more money.

ITA. Unfortunately, that requires effort. Some men would rather complain about how unfair it is that a woman won't do whatever a man wants, rather than trying to be the kind of partner a woman would want.

[nokidsmom]

Biology fail too. Massive, massive fail all around.

Um, hello, where have these guys been all this time? Women have been in the workforce for decades and it's no big secret nowadays that many women outearn their husbands or are the sole breadwinner.

These guys are either complete idiots or making a bunch of noise to rile up their viewers.

[infooverload]

I think the best thing I ever saw was when Jon Stewart did a bit about Megan Malley and her maternity (I think it was her) I don't watch Fox and their female personalities all look the same to me. He basically rightfully called her a hypocrit for rallying against it in a segment previously and then taking advantage of gvt mandated maternity leave.

[debrand]

I think the best thing I ever saw was when Jon Stewart did a bit about Megan Malley and her maternity (I think it was her) I don't watch Fox and their female personalities all look the same to me. He basically rightfully called her a hypocrit for rallying against it in a segment previously and then taking advantage of gvt mandated maternity leave.

Megan Kelly. He has also pointed out that Gretchen ? purposely acts less intelligent than she really is Greta Van Susteren wrote about this on her blog

Van Susteren took to her blog and did not hold back, writing,

"Have these men lost their minds? (and these are my colleagues??!! oh brother... maybe I need to have a little chat with them (next thing they will have a segment to discuss eliminating women's right to vote?)"

Most of the women on Fox News are there to look pretty and spout off the party line. It helps if a few are obviously intelligent and educated for Fox's public relations. However, the women must know that they are just faces and who they are or what they think doesn't matter. It is no mistake that so many are blonde and are placed so that the camera can see a great deal of their leg.

If I was conservative I'd rebel against Fox News and the Republican party.

I wonder how many of the Fox personalities don't believe in the crap that they spout but are only trying to get a paycheck.

[infooverload]

Does anyone think that any of the FOX correspondences will ever jump ship and go work for a more liberal outfit? I know they managed to lure one person from PBS to their organization and forgive me for not remembering his name.