I homeschooled my sons to protect them from porn

[Hane]

On my first day of primary school, in Germany, you get an oversized cone of paper filled with goodies and would you believe it - it resembled a phallus. The relentless assault of pornographic images and movies continued, especially during biology, physics and PE lessons. I basically had to watch my class-mates salivating over learning about osmosis. The grunts from the back benches, while we learned about gravity were unbearable. And those defrauding legs, while I was trying to evade getting lobotomized by a field hockey-stick were...ugh. Not to mention the hockey-sticks.

So addicted were all the guys to porn, that we all only started dating at around 16. And we all went straight into holding hands. How disgusting is that? Can you even begin to imagine how traumatizing that was? Sisters, I could tell you more about the horrors of secular schooling, but I fear that if I spend one more moment, dwelling on such erotic subjects as Boyle's gas equation, or the hot, heated passion of learning French declinations, I too may be lost forever. Safe-guard your children! Protect them from grammar and proper spelling! It will only lead to nudity and an open mind! And beware field hockey, although the accidental lobotomy might sound handy now, beware!

samurai_sarah, I triple-dog-DARE you to post this as a comment on Lori's blog!

[Wolfie]

eh, depends on the school.one was brought my attentions where little girls were giving blow jobs to the boys in the bath room and one incident was in the news where two boys were poisoning the teacher on purpose by putting hand sanitizer in her beverages.

Not the norm, though. In my years of teaching (14), I've never run into those things. When I have heard of it happening, it's generally happening with students 7th grade or over. The vast majority of teachers are constantly on the alert for those things. (which is why whenever I've heard of somebody trying to access porn on a school computer it is in the context of the filter catching it and they were able to trace who it was. The three situations I can remember it happening are a custodian, a teacher's boyfriend, and a student.)

Schools are generally safer than the kind of homes that try to shelter the kids so that they don't even know that these things are wrong and also are in denial that anything could happen to their children.

[docmom]

I was shown pornography in class. It was a class on sexuality and it was in medical school. It was pretty bad porn. Maybe the best way to stop a teenage boy from watching porn is to make them watch then take a test on the material.

[AnywhereButHere]

On the same subject, there is a teacher who is being investigated because he said vagina in a biology class about human reproduction.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/2 ... ucation123

I saw this, so I asked my 12 year old son, who just had a health class, what terms the teacher used. He said, penis and vagina, without turning red, stuttering r laughing like a hyena. Go public school! :D

If a sixth grader can handle the word, I am sure a tenth grader won't burst into flames after hearing it.

Although, according to Lori, that might be pornography, so maybe I should homeschool him. Then all we have to worry about is him seeing mommy become an alcoholic not long after our first math class...

[lilwriter85]

So, totes cool to send 'em to high school where they won't be tempted by porn at all because they were homeschooled k-8 or 9. Gotcha.

:roll:

Lori said in some other posting that her kids went to a "good Christian high school." I bet there was porn at that Christian high school.

[EmiGirl]

You know, I'm pretty sure North American public schools have far safer computers than most homeschooling parents do. Because schools hire people with degrees in that sort of thing to manage their computers and internet access. I bet I could find porn way more easily under Lori's nose than in a school.

But fundies have the graduates of ITONERAMP for their computer safety!

[duplessis3]

Actually, as far as I can tell, at the schools my sons attend, there is far less bullying than when I was a kid (and being bullied.) I have actually seen kids bend over backwards to help accept new kids - even those with obvious problems. And my 11 yr old wore a kilt to his preschool through 8th grade kilt. The only remarks he got was that it was "cool." He even played basketball in it, at the same time that the middle schoolers were on the playground. There are out gay kids at my high school age sons school, and he says that no one really cares. So...YMMV but my point is that just because there is a big hullabaloo in the media may mean it is unusual enough to report. (the suicide stuff, I don't know 0-I dont know if it is just because we used to not talk about it or if it really has become so common.)

[Cora Persephona]

On the same subject, there is a teacher who is being investigated because he said vagina in a biology class about human reproduction.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/2 ... ucation123

My highschool biology teacher couldn't bring herself to say testicles in front of us. Not fundie, just ...shy? I have no idea why, but it was an endless source of fun trying to see if she will finally say the word.

[Wolfie]

Actually, as far as I can tell, at the schools my sons attend, there is far less bullying than when I was a kid (and being bullied.) I have actually seen kids bend over backwards to help accept new kids - even those with obvious problems. And my 11 yr old wore a kilt to his preschool through 8th grade kilt. The only remarks he got was that it was "cool." He even played basketball in it, at the same time that the middle schoolers were on the playground. There are out gay kids at my high school age sons school, and he says that no one really cares. So...YMMV but my point is that just because there is a big hullabaloo in the media may mean it is unusual enough to report. (the suicide stuff, I don't know 0-I dont know if it is just because we used to not talk about it or if it really has become so common.)

I think that a lot of it is because we didn't used to talk about it, and I think that now that we talk about it, it is becoming less common. The biggest amount of bullying I see at my current schools is between the employees. I've been bullied by other teachers and admins. I've seen other teachers bullied too. The district supposedly has made the admins go to trainings to stop staff bullying, but it hasn't helped in the cases where they are bullies. The union helps a little, but then they start up again.

[lilwriter85]

I just read the Huffpost article on the Idaho teacher. The teacher did nothing wrong to warrant an investigation.

[meowmeow19]

I want to say that I went to both public school and a fundie school.

In public school I never saw porn. In health class all we learned was what a penis was and what a vagina was. We never had any sex ed or how sex works talk. Everything was VERY PG. I wasn't ever bullied or didn't have issues unless I deserved them. I was later told that the boys did a lot more bullying behind closed doors.

I chose to go to fundie school be closer to my best friend. It was there I was tormented by both students and "teachers". I had short hair due to an accident and every day I was told I was a lesbian. I once had a rumor I had slept with a black man. It was so racist I just ran with that one. We went on a school trip and two girls gave blowjobs to their boyfriends on the bus. I would say a quarter of my class got pregnant after graduation but before turning 20 and none of them were married. I was also told that it because of the woman wanting a career that so many divorces were happening and that the only reason to go to college was to find a husband, DUH. I was also told that the jews deserved the holocaust and many of them agreed to this because they were involved with the sin of usury. Man has never reached the moon because God did not intend for us to go. NASA is a conspiracy. I could go on and on.

I felt that my public school was a lot more wholesome.

I hope that woman has a PG version of that Bible. Talk about porn....

Ezekiel 23:20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

[lawfulevil]

Well... I saw porn in school. Http and https (by default anyway) use different ports. Bess (the net nanny) blocked damn near everything, including biology websites... but anything that had a "secure" version of the site was wide open. Like, you know, every porn site ever. The novelty wore off pretty quickly and I didn't tell anyone else for years*. I went hunting for ways to break through the net nanny in the first place because I got picked on so much that lunch was unbearable. When they added Wikipedia to the block list, I was suddenly stuck with 45 minutes of nothing to do but reread the same miniscule school library I'd already finished. Bored children cause mischief, how is this a revelation?

*Revenge is a dish best served by hundreds of rich furious Bible-thumping parents.

[tabitha2]

in public school I watched cheech and chong.

[itaintmebabe]

Ah, this brings back fond memories. I'll never forget Junior High Porn Class when it was thrust in my face. Good times.

[dairyfreelife]

eh, depends on the school.one was brought my attentions where little girls were giving blow jobs to the boys in the bath room and one incident was in the news where two boys were poisoning the teacher on purpose by putting hand sanitizer in her beverages.

The reason such things end up on the news is because it is not common. As someone who has observed in K-2 classrooms, I can tell you that the average 6yo will think a blow job has to do with blow pops or a job as a hair dryer at a hair salon. In other words, no child that young knows what a blow job is let alone how to give one. I have zero doubt in my mind that that young girl who was giving boys blow jobs was being sexually abused because there is no way she would know about it otherwise. Just like when I did dance, they used the song Tootsie Roll by 69 Boyz and everyone thought it was about the candy. My sister had a dance to the song Candyman by Aqua. Now if you listen to the song it is definitely about giving blow jobs, but my sister, who was probably 6-7 at the time thought it was just about types of candy.

Yes, there are issues with sex in children as occasionally 10-12yos are doing it, but in the couple cases I know about it, there always seemed to be abuse in the home including one girl who's mother prostituted her 10yo daughter.

Edited because I actually can write a sentence that makes sense.

[Maggie Mae]

The reason such things end up on the news is because it is not common. As someone who has observed in K-2 classrooms, I can tell you that the average 6yo will think a blow job has to do with blow pops or a job as a hair dryer at a hair salon. In other words, no child that young knows what a blow job is let alone how to give one. I have zero doubt in my mind that that young girl who was giving boys blow jobs was being sexually abused because there is no way she would know about it otherwise. Just like when I did dance, they used the song Tootsie Roll by 69 Boyz and at everyone thought is was about it the candy. My sister had a dance to the song Candyman by Aqua. Now if you listen to the song it is definitely about giving blow jobs, but my sister, who was probably 6-7 at the time thought it was just about types of candy.

Yes, there are issues with sex in children as occasionally 10-12yos are doing it, but in the couple cases I know about it, there always seemed to be abuse in the home including one girl who's mother prostituted her 10yo daughter.

I thought it WAS about candy. (Haven't heard that song in years.)

[tabitha2]

I pretended I was a pimps prostitute and the boy was the pimp when I was 10.

[dairyfreelife]

I thought it WAS about candy. (Haven't heard that song in years.)

Nostalgia time!

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[FloraDoraDolly]

I was on the safety patrol in 5th grade and had a post next to a big park. One day, when I was standing there, I noticed that somebody (probably a certain kids from the nearby junior high who used to hang out in that park and do drugs) had hidden some magazines under a pile of leaves. I kicked the leaves aside and found a stash of Hustler magazines. I didn't get a chance to look at them because some 6th grade boys happened to be walking by and they saw what I had found: "Hustlers!!! Excellent!!! Where did you get those???"

I told them the truth, that the magazines were hidden under the leaves in the park. Since I wasn't really interested in them, I said the boys could have them. Naturally, they accepted my generous offer and ran off with the Hustlers tucked under their jackets.

So I guess I was an eville child who distributed porn to innocent little boys.

[ladyamylynn]

Thank god no one has figured out how to view porn at home yet!

[yewchapel]

The filters on my school's computers filtered out 'cult/new age' stuff so Lori and other fundies would be out :lol: I remember it blocking a LOTR jewellery site.

Of course, one of my English teachers pointed out all the 'dirty' parts in Shakespeare (there's a LOT - do Vision Forum let kids read Shakespeare?) and we studied Carol Ann Duffy poems at GCSE which are hardly sexless.

So sex is discussed at public/state schools or should be at least, because it's NORMAL.

[louisa05]

You know, I'm pretty sure North American public schools have far safer computers than most homeschooling parents do. Because schools hire people with degrees in that sort of thing to manage their computers and internet access. I bet I could find porn way more easily under Lori's nose than in a school.

Exactly. Students cannot even access youtube, forums, or most blogs or email servers on school computers. As a sub teacher, I log in on a guest password in the districts I sub in and can barely access news sites due to anything deemed "entertainment" being blocked which includes even large sections of cnn.com and nbcnews.com.

[samurai_sarah]

samurai_sarah, I triple-dog-DARE you to post this as a comment on Lori's blog!

Done. :D Let's see if she approves it.

[turquoise]

I imagine most public school system have much better filters against porn than she has on her home computer.

Speaking of porn at school, I met one homeschooling mother who assured me that our local school system showed porn as part of their family life curriculum. I told her that wasn't our experience, but I don't think she believed me. I got the impression she would have thought any accurate information about sexuality was porn.

[EmiGirl]

My replay to Lori:

Have you met any of the Duggar children? They came to the place where I used to work. Josh, the boy who is married is okay socially, but all of the others were extremely backward. The girls stood against the wall and pointed and giggled at people walking by and the boys, except Josh, were way too shy to speak to anyone. Granted this was three years ago. However, my husband, his siblings, and some of his cousins were also home schooled and are the same way. They have no idea how to deal with people who don't agree with them or have the same background as them.