Pearls Parenting Advice

[ILoveJellybeans]

It hasnt happened so far. The beating and isolations have meant that their children have no critical thinking skills, no ability to make decisions on their own, and no social skills, therefore they would be completely useless in a leadership role and more suited to being told what to do by other people (who had normal childhoods and learned to made decisions without fear of making the wrong one and getting beaten for it)

[CrazySister]

Re: Anasts' status in reproduction. There is at least one additional child beyond those listed in this blurb from NGJ:

Rebekah was pregnant with that child last year (2011) before Gabe shut down the cray cray fest that was 7XSunday.

They have since self-published a book by Rebekah (http://www.amazon.com/The-Vinci-Road-Ob ... B006U67N4Y) which also has a website (birthrightmedia.com/index.php?id=4) and they put up a number of videos of themselves on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/ruLISng/videos?view=0

She sounds like she's a teenager with severe depression, not a grown woman.

[Dysfundamental]

Great SOTDRT, Rebekah. Hint: "da Vinci" was not Leonardo's last name. He was Leonardo, who came from Vinci. I know Dan Brown did it wrong, too, but that's no excuse. What you've done is like writing a book about the lessons of William of Orange and calling it "The of Orange Road".

[patsymae]

"I do not recommend taking a hammer to your thumb in order to accelerate your senses; even I would find you lacking in that sense which is called "common.""

Words fail me.

[yewnique]

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Children raised right grow up right, no exceptions. It is God’s certain promise (Proverbs 22:6).

I wish that life was so simple. It isn't that parents don't have a big influence on their children but to claim that all children will grow up to be good if their parents do their job is incorrect. It is possible to be a bad person but have decent parents.

[jenny_islander]

Yes, the Bible itself heads the section in which this verse appears "The Proverbs of Solomon" (Prov. 10:1). Last I heard, Solomon wasn't a prophet and he certainly wasn't God!

Also (although I know that to the Pearls and their ilk "context" is an evil thing), the very next verse (KJV) reads, "The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender." Is that a promise of God too? Considering the pointed things that every single prophet in the Bible had to say about the rich, I don't think so!

[JaChelle Sugar]

They get around the 'X wasn't a prophet/God' by saying that God divinely inspired writer X to write book Y of the bible, so it's all the word of God and if you say the Bible was written by multiple peole they'll correct you and say it was written by God.

[lilwriter85]

Pearl fangirl Lori announced that her son and daughter-in-law are expecting a baby in May. It is sad another child is going to have be dealt with the Pearl style.

[jenny_islander]

They get around the 'X wasn't a prophet/God' by saying that God divinely inspired writer X to write book Y of the bible, so it's all the word of God and if you say the Bible was written by multiple peole they'll correct you and say it was written by God.

And they get around the parts of Paul's letters where he carefully specifies which parts are his opinion and which are divine revelation how, exactly?

Never mind, I know . . . because they need a Big Checklist of Everything and they've decided to chop and change the Bible in order to get it.

[dairyfreelife]

Pearl fangirl Lori announced that her son and daughter-in-law are expecting a baby in May. It is sad another child is going to have be dealt with the Pearl style.

NO! Run Emma Alexander and Baby to be Alexander! Run as soon as you can and break the cycle.

[lilwriter85]

NO! Run Emma Alexander and Baby to be Alexander! Run as soon as you can and break the cycle.

Those were my first thoughts. Sadly, I see it being a long time before the cycle gets broken in the Alexander family at least when it comes to Lori's son Ryan. I do hope one of Lori's other kids rejects the Pearl methods when they have kids. Someone in another thread posted, that she thought it was odd that Lori's married daughter Alyssa hasn't had kids yet. Lori has posted about large families and that she wanted more kids but couldn't due to health problems. I hope and I get the feeling that her kids will have four kids at most.

[outrunningzombies]

Proverbs 22:6 is NOT a promise. It is a proverb - a wise saying about things that are most likely to happen. People can and do choose to live differently from the way their parents raised them.

Most evangelicals I know think everything in the bible is God's word and 100% true, so proverbs is all promises of how things always work. Logic never gets very far with those sorts of people.

[kolga]

It is possible to be a bad person but have decent parents.

Based on the heartbreaking stories of abuse and neglect that the wonderful FJers have told here, it's also possible to be an amazing person but have had crappy parents.

[Emme]

These are the "put the baby on the rug and beat it if it moves because it's being disobedient" people right? Fucking wackadoodles. My bro was telling me that I was being too judgy of people who are super religious, and then I told him about the baby thing and he was like "well forget what I said because those fuckers are nuts"

[Jana814]

Based on the heartbreaking stories of abuse and neglect that the wonderful FJers have told here, it's also possible to be an amazing person but have had crappy parents.

Have to agree with you!!

[Hane]

Bloody hell, I hope not! Some of the secular bosses I've had have been bad enough, never mind a Pearl or their ilk!

There is, and I wish to God I could find it.

[CrazySister]

There is, and I wish to God I could find it.

Looking for the bolded above but came across this gem in searching for it. It's part of a letter "from mom to the girls."

Mother, all that you need to do is make your husband envious. First, while your husband is away, be so consistent and thorough that you gain perfect instant obedience from your children. They will learn that no matter how careless Daddy is, Mama is the "law of God Himself." When you see him failing to gain obedience, at an appropriate time, in his presence, quietly command the children, and they will run to obedience. After several days of this, he will ask, "How do you do it; they don't obey me that way?" Just humbly smile as you hold up the switch and say, "The rod and reproof give wisdom (Prov. 29:15)." Then demurely turn and walk away. He will become jealous.

[CrazySister]

Some more gems for those who think the Pearls are just a shining example of gdly parents.

Now, there are some flavors or textures that we just have an aversion for. Allow each child one or two dislikes, just don't let their preferences be too limited. If a child doesn't like what is on the table, let him do without until the next meal. A little fasting is good training. If you get a child who is particularly finicky and only eats a limited diet, then feed him mainly what he doesn't like until he likes it.

Forget about buying them toys. Some functional toys are desirable, like a metal truck for the little boys, or a tricycle or bicycle for the older ones. Little girls can profit from play dishes and baby dolls (which resemble real babies). Just don't cultivate their covetous inclinations by teaching them to expect to have their lusts indulged.

Never yield to the fads. Christians should have too much dignity to be carried along by the Madison Avenue promoters. Their shoes, clothes and cereal should be chosen for serviceability, not style.

Hollywood is not for God's children. Don't allow the brainless, subversive Sesame Street type propaganda to come into your house. Your children's thinking should be molded by the word of God and Christian example, not by sex perverts and socialists. If you want to destroy your family then get yourself a good TV and VCR to keep the kids company.

[CrazySister]

There are quite a few "valuable" quotes from the Pearls but while I'm still loafing around this morning I thought I'd share this gem with those of you who still choose to believe the Pearls do not advocate baby-beating.

My nine- and eleven-year-old daughters came in from a neighbor's house complaining of a young mother's failure to train her child. A seven-month-old boy had, upon failing to get his way, stiffened, clenched his fists, bared his toothless gums and called down damnation on the whole place. At a time like that, the angry expression on a baby's face can resemble that of one instigating a riot. The young mother, wanting to do the right thing, stood there in helpless consternation, apologetically shrugged her shoulders and said, "What can I do?" My incredulous nine-year-old whipped back, "Switch him." The mother responded, "I can't, he's too little." With the wisdom of a veteran who had been on the little end of the switch, my daughter answered, "If he is old enough to pitch a fit, he is old enough to be spanked."

One particularly painful experience of nursing mothers is the biting baby. My wife did not waste time finding a cure. When the baby bit, she pulled hair (an alternative has to be sought for baldheaded babies). Understand, the baby is not being punished, just conditioned. A baby learns not to stick his finger in his eyes or bite his tongue through the negative associations accompanying it. It requires no understanding or reasoning. Somewhere in the brain that information is unconsciously stored. After two or three times of biting, with the accompanying head hurting, the child programs that information away for his own comfort. The biting habit is cured before it starts. This is not discipline. It is obedience training.

One of our girls who developed mobility early had a fascination with crawling up the stairs. At four months she was too unknowing to be punished for disobedience. But for her own good, we attempted to train her not to climb the stairs by coordinating the voice command of "No" with little spats on the bare legs. The switch was a twelve-inch long, one-eighth-inch diameter sprig from a willow tree.

Such was her fascination with climbing that four or five sessions had not made her stop. The thought of further spankings was disconcerting, so I conceived an alternative. After one more spanking, I laid the switch on the bottom step. We later observed her crawl to the stairs and start the ascent, only to halt at the first step and stare at the switch. She backed off and never again attempted to climb the stairs, even after the switch was removed.

[moodygirl86]

There are quite a few "valuable" quotes from the Pearls but while I'm still loafing around this morning I thought I'd share this gem with those of you who still choose to believe the Pearls do not advocate baby-beating.

I call bullshit on a 9 and 11 year-old even considering that unless someone's brainwashed them into it.

[CrazySister]

I call bullshit on a 9 and 11 year-old even considering that unless someone's brainwashed them into it.

They *have* been brainwashed. That's their whole training system.

[moodygirl86]

They *have* been brainwashed. That's their whole training system.

Of course. I just read back my original comment and the way I should've phrased it was "children of that age who hadn't been brainwashed wouldn't have thought of that". My bad! (I've had a few too many beers today).

[CrazySister]

They *have* been brainwashed. That's their whole training system.

Of course. I just read back my original comment and the way I should've phrased it was "children of that age who hadn't been brainwashed wouldn't have thought of that". My bad! (I've had a few too many beers today).

[CrazySister]

True, but isnt there a quote by one of the Pearls, saying that their children will have high paying jobs and be the bosses of our badly behaved non beaten kids?

Found it! Turns out it wasn't in TTUAC but in his response to the death of Lydia Schatz. Here's the link to his FB response because I can't figure out how to properly post the pic: iamarecoveringfundamentalist.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/michael_pearl_is_no_longer_laughing/

[Emme]

There are quite a few "valuable" quotes from the Pearls but while I'm still loafing around this morning I thought I'd share this gem with those of you who still choose to believe the Pearls do not advocate baby-beating.

Holy fuck nuggets. These people are the craziest of the crazies. As someone who is studying psychology, I am appalled by this shit. The pulling hair of babies thing? WHO thinks of that? Those poor children!!!!