Trump 12: Nevertheless, She Persisted (Let's do the same!)

[GreyhoundFan]

Too funny: "Trump basically just took credit for the Oscars flub"

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The Oscars mix-up seems to be the biggest story of the day — a distinction usually claimed by President Trump and something he has done or tweeted.

But the commander in chief has, nevertheless, found a way to make it all about him: The mistake, wherein actors Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway inadvertently gave out the best- picture award to the wrong movie, was actually because of him. According to whom?

Trump was thousands of miles away from the auditorium where the ceremony took place. Still, in an interview with Breitbart News, the president basically said he was to blame-slash-thank. “I think they were focused so hard on politics that they didn’t get the act together at the end,” Trump said. “It was a little sad.”

Translation: Everyone was thinking so much about him, they screwed up. Trump had more Oscar thoughts, too. The episode “took away from the glamour of the Oscars,” he said. “It didn’t feel like a very glamorous evening. I’ve been to the Oscars. There was something very special missing, and then to end that way was sad.”

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What a freaking narcissist. Everything is all about him.

[GreyhoundFan]

The Branch Trumpvidian trolls got their panties in a twist because an ebil Iranian filmmaker had the temerity to speak out against Agent Orange's travel ban.  Way too many Tweets for me to copy, but worth a look. These people are unreal.

[RoseWilder]

I'm glad someone is pursuing this since the mainstream media seems to have dropped the story: 

 

This is horrifying: 

 

[laPapessaGiovanna]

32 minutes ago, GreyhoundFan said:

The Branch Trumpvidian trolls got their panties in a twist because an ebil Iranian filmmaker had the temerity to speak out against Agent Orange's travel ban.  Way too many Tweets for me to copy, but worth a look. These people are unreal.

Iranians can't talk about democracy but the world should take democracy lessons from a country where the will of the majority is ignored in favor of the ec system, where healthcare and prisons are for profit businesses, where stock market regulations will soon be a scam system legalisation (again), where corporations are legally authorised to bribe and corrupt foreign governments, where secretary of education thinks her department should be cancelled, where the president tries to induce the press and the investigative branch into ignoring his misdeeds. It makes sense.

I hate these harebrained dictator ass kissers train of so called thought. If we need to establish who has the moral high ground before talking about democracy their orange idol would score pretty low. And yet they can act all scandalised because 'murika has no flaws, is the bestest of the best and the rest of the world should thank it for mercifully allowing them to live on the same planet. Really, how ignorant and detached from reality are these people?

Also they are badly in need of some history lessons. In their arrogance they forgot (or more probably never cared for) the role their country (together with other western democracies) played in the current Iranian regime rising to power. /rant

[Cartmann99]

13 hours ago, GreyhoundFan said:

She was in DC, there were pictures of her at some fancy event. Not sure about Barron, but I'm glad about that -- he shouldn't be trotted out for the cameras by fame-hungry parents. I think she'll probably be in DC whenever there is some big glitzy photo-op and hide in NYC the rest of the time

I also want Barron kept out of the spotlight. I was asking about him and Melania because I worry about Barron. He deserves to have a father who loves him and is interested in spending time with him. From what I've read of Trump, he shows little interest in his children until they are old enough to be involved in the family businesses. Very sad.

 

[RoseWilder]

Wow. The Rachel Maddow Show tonight was fantastic. They were covering more of the Trump-Russian ties and it was fascinating. I have Friday's episode recorded as well, but I haven't gotten around to watching it yet and a friend told me it was an amazing show as well. I definitely recommend watching setting the show for a season pass to anyone who wants to know more about the Russia scandal. She's doing a great job of explaining this really complicated stuff in a way that makes it easier to follow. And on that note, is this Trump-Russia stuff making anyone else feel stupid? It's all so complicated and there are so many people involved that I feel like I need the world's largest dry erase board to make a chart to break this all down.

[RoseWilder]

Well isn't this interesting: 

And yet, the Republicans in congress keep insisting that there is no need to investigate Trump's Russian ties. I'm beginnning to think they're all connected to Russia too. 

[laPapessaGiovanna]

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Donald Trump will make his first address to Congress on Tuesday, outlining priorities including a big hike in military spending at the expense of foreign aid and environmental programmes. [...]

rump will promise “concrete steps”, Spicer said, and set out a “bold agenda” including tax reform, improving work conditions for working parents, healthcare reform, access to education, rebuilding the military and fulfilling commitments to veterans.

“You will hear a lot about immigration tomorrow night and he will talk about why it matters,” Spicer said.

Trump will also have to make his case to Congress, which has the final say on his budget. On Monday the White House announced he will seek a $54bn hike in spending on tanks, ships and weapons systems while cutting foreign aid, environmental programmes and domestic agencies by the same amount. The US already spends more on the military than the next eight countries combined.

“This budget will be a public safety and national security budget,” Trump said at the White House. “It will include an historic increase in defence spending to rebuild the depleted military of the United States of America at a time we most need it.”

More details here https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/27/trumps-budget-54-billion-increase-defense-spending

He's in full MAGA (BTW "maga" means witch in Italian) mode. And HRC was the hawkish one...

[JMarie]

38 minutes ago, RoseWilder said:

Wow. The Rachel Maddow Show tonight was fantastic. They were covering more of the Trump-Russian ties and it was fascinating. I have Friday's episode recorded as well, but I haven't gotten around to watching it yet and a friend told me it was an amazing show as well. I definitely recommend watching setting the show for a season pass to anyone who wants to know more about the Russia scandal. She's doing a great job of explaining this really complicated stuff in a way that makes it easier to follow. And on that note, is this Trump-Russia stuff making anyone else feel stupid? It's all so complicated and there are so many people involved that I feel like I need the world's largest dry erase board to make a chart to break this all down.

Does anyone else wish they could have had a professor like Rachel?

2 hours ago, RoseWilder said:

I'm glad someone is pursuing this since the mainstream media seems to have dropped the story: 

 

This is horrifying: 

 

#2 sounds like the subliminal messages in the Josie and the Pussycats movie

[fraurosena]

For anyone interested, here's a link to Rachel Maddow's explaining of the Tangerine Toddler-Russia ties:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/new-commerce-secretary-at-nexus-of-lucrative-trump-russian-deal-886220355575

And waddaya know, Wilbur Ross is in the middle of it...

I also found an article in the Guardian the other day on another of the Tangerine Toddler's buddies, Robert Mercer. It's a really long read and sometimes gets a little technical. It's incredibly scary too. The following quote is long, so I put it under a spoiler. It links the Tangerine Toddler to Breitfart, to Nigel Farage, to Cambridge Analytica and more. It also shows how the American public was manipulated into voting for the Tangerine Toddler against their own best interests.

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If you follow US politics you may recognise the name. Robert Mercer is the money behind Donald Trump. But then, I will come to learn, Robert Mercer is the money behind an awful lot of things. He was Trump’s single biggest donor. Mercer started backing Ted Cruz, but when he fell out of the presidential race he threw his money – $13.5m of it – behind the Trump campaign.

It’s money he’s made as a result of his career as a brilliant but reclusive computer scientist.

(…) since 2010, Mercer has donated $45m to different political campaigns – all Republican – and another $50m to non-profits – all rightwing, ultra-conservative. This is a billionaire who is, as billionaires are wont, trying to reshape the world according to his personal beliefs.

(…)

Robert Mercer very rarely speaks in public and never to journalists, so to gauge his beliefs you have to look at where he channels his money: a series of yachts, all called Sea Owl; a $2.9m model train set; climate change denial (he funds a climate change denial thinktank, the Heartland Institute); and what is maybe the ultimate rich man’s plaything – the disruption of the mainstream media. In this he is helped by his close associate Steve Bannon, Trump’s campaign manager and now chief strategist. The money he gives to the Media Research Center, with its mission of correcting “liberal bias” is just one of his media plays. There are other bigger, and even more deliberate strategies, and shining brightly, the star at the centre of the Mercer media galaxy, is Breitbart.

It was $10m of Mercer’s money that enabled Bannon to fund Breitbart – a rightwing news site, set up with the express intention of being a Huffington Post for the right. It has launched the careers of Milo Yiannopoulos and his like, regularly hosts antisemitic and Islamophobic views, and is currently being boycotted by more than 1,000 brands after an activist campaign. It has been phenomenally successful: the 29th most popular site in America with 2bn page views a year. It’s bigger than its inspiration, the Huffington Post, bigger, even, than PornHub. It’s the biggest political site on Facebook. The biggest on Twitter.

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But there was another reason why I recognised Robert Mercer’s name: because of his connection to Cambridge Analytica, a small data analytics company. He is reported to have a $10m stake in the company, which was spun out of a bigger British company called SCL Group. It specialises in “election management strategies” and “messaging and information operations”, refined over 25 years in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan. In military circles this is known as “psyops” – psychological operations. (Mass propaganda that works by acting on people’s emotions.)

Cambridge Analytica worked for the Trump campaign and, so I’d read, the Leave campaign. When Mercer supported Cruz, Cambridge Analytica worked with Cruz. When Robert Mercer started supporting Trump, Cambridge Analytica came too. And where Mercer’s money is, Steve Bannon is usually close by: it was reported that until recently he had a seat on the board.

(…)

On its website, Cambridge Analytica makes the astonishing boast that it has psychological profiles based on 5,000 separate pieces of data on 220 million American voters – its USP is to use this data to understand people’s deepest emotions and then target them accordingly. The system, according to Albright, amounted to a “propaganda machine”.

(…)

Facebook was the key to the entire campaign (…). A Facebook ‘like’ (…) was their most “potent weapon”. “Because using artificial intelligence (…) tells you all sorts of things about that individual and how to convince them with what sort of advert. And you knew there would also be other people in their network who liked what they liked, so you could spread. And then you follow them. The computer never stops learning and it never stops monitoring.”

(…)

“The danger of not having regulation around the sort of data you can get from Facebook and elsewhere is clear. With this, a computer can actually do psychology, it can predict and potentially control human behaviour. It’s what the scientologists try to do but much more powerful. It’s how you brainwash someone. It’s incredibly dangerous.

“It’s no exaggeration to say that minds can be changed. Behaviour can be predicted and controlled. I find it incredibly scary. I really do. Because nobody has really followed through on the possible consequences of all this. People don’t know it’s happening to them. Their attitudes are being changed behind their backs.”

(…)

Mercer invested in Cambridge Analytica, the Washington Post reported, “driven in part by an assessment that the right was lacking sophisticated technology capabilities”. But in many ways, it’s what Cambridge Analytica’s parent company does that raises even more questions.

Emma Briant, a propaganda specialist at the University of Sheffield, wrote about SCL Group in her 2015 book, Propaganda and Counter-Terrorism: Strategies for Global Change. Cambridge Analytica has the technological tools to effect behavioural and psychological change, she said, but it’s SCL that strategises it. It has specialised, at the highest level – for Nato, the MoD, the US state department and others – in changing the behaviour of large groups. It models mass populations and then it changes their beliefs.

 

Here's the complete article: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[RoseWilder]

So the White House wants us to believe they have nothing to hide, and yet they desperately keep trying to kill the Russia story: 

It's becoming increasingly clear that the Republicans are in this Russian scandal up to their necks: 

 

[formergothardite]

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Richard Burr is evil and probably up to his neck in doing illegal things with Russia. I hope this brings him down. 

[fraurosena]

Oh puleeze! 

 

[fraurosena]

Now guys, we have to keep this a secret! But I found a draft of the Tangerine Toddler's speech, the one he's going to address to Congress. I've copied it out for you:

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Let me start by telling you that no other White House administration has made such early progress I have. It’s great, really tremendous. I said I would start on day one, and I have. From day one! No one has ever done so much as I have. Ever. From day one!

For example, since day one, I’ve been doing more to make America’s security great again. We’re keeping terrorists out even though some misguided judges tried to stop me. And we’re rounding up all the bad, bad hombres who are here illegally doing terrible things. Really terrible things. Gangs and murder. 80 % of citizens of Chicago alone. But I told them, I did, that I would send the feds if they didn’t clean up their streets. I really did. And they are listening. Let me tell you, they are listening. But we’re doing a great job of getting them out. ICE is doing a great job. Every Mexican is being rounded up. It’s true. We’re putting them in camps and we’re going to make Mexico take them back. And we’re making them pay for it. Just like the wall. We’re making great, great progress. We’re going to build a wall all along the Mexican border. We’ll keep those bad hombres out!

And you know what else we’re doing? We’re repealing and replacing that terrible Obamacare. We’re working really hard at it. I’ve got my best people working on it. It’s complicated, I didn’t know that, nobody knew that, it's really complicated, but we’re making a good, we’re making progress. It’s going to be the best system. Really good. The best. It’s true.

We’re doing a lot of things now, a lot of things. I’ve had a lot of visitors already. I  had a visit from Mrs. May. She came all the way from England to see me. The Canadian PM, I met him too. And that Japanese fellow, Mr. Abe. He even wanted to go golfing with me. 18 holes! And I played with him at Mar-a-Lago. I won bigly. It was great. And I’ve met many people at the Winter White House. Yes, they all want to see me. They even pay good money to see me. You wouldn’t believe! That’s how much they want to see me. Because they know I’m doing good things. Great things.

And we’re looking into jobs. We’re going to create new jobs everywhere. Manufacturing jobs. It’s wonderful. Lots of jobs. Coal miners. Factory work. So many jobs. It’s tremendous, I can tell you. And when we have new jobs, it’s important to have a new national tax system. It’s going to be really good too. I’ve got my people working on it now, as we speak. So big taxes, yes, and  money. The budget, we are doing that too. We are managing the budget. We are managing it really, really well. It’s so good. Let me tell you that we reduced the national deficit by 12 billion dollars in the first month. Yes, it’s true, 20 billion dollars! In the first week! Not like Obama, who made a mess. I inherited a mess.

But we’re shaping things up. Draining the swamp. Big time. You don’t hear anything about that in the FAKE media. Oh no. It’s sad, really. They won’t tell you all of the things I’m getting done. They only want to focus on FAKE news, the fake Russia leaks. Terrible. I don’t know Putin. I haven’t been to Russia in years. In fact, I’ve never been there. But I hear nice things about Putin. Good guy. Really good guy. But I don’t know him, really. Never met him.

And still, the FAKE media is going on about it. Bringing fake news about fake leaks. And wanting an investigation. An investigation!  I’ll tell you who’s going to investigate. ME! I’m going to find out who has been leaking. We can’t have that in the White House. So I’m going to root those leakers out. As we speak, we’re checking phones, tablets, emails.  And speaking of emails, you don’t hear anything about Hillary’s emails anymore, do you? No, the FAKE media isn’t telling you about her emails, are they? You can just tell that she is such a sore loser. She thought she could beat me. But I won! Nobody in the FAKE media thought I would win, and I did. By the largest percentages ever seen this century. And I will tell you that everybody tells me this. It’s true. My voters came out in droves for my inauguration. So wonderful. Standing in the sunshine. And this week, all the people cheering and waving little flags when I spoke at CPAC. Colorful little flags they made for me. They even had my name on them. That right there tells you how much they love me. Yes. I am the best loved president there ever was in this country. The best loved president ever, in the world even. It’s true.

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[GeoBQn]

On the lighter side, my brother sent me a picture he found of a pro-Trump rally in my city yesterday.  The attendance was . . . sparse.  He said, "I've had larger gatherings in my house to watch Wrestlemania."

[GreyhoundFan]

10 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

I also want Barron kept out of the spotlight. I was asking about him and Melania because I worry about Barron. He deserves to have a father who loves him and is interested in spending time with him. From what I've read of Trump, he shows little interest in his children until they are old enough to be involved in the family businesses. Very sad.

 

 

Sadly, in this case, it's likely in Barron's best interest to have as little contact with his sperm donor. I'm not a Melania fan, but she does seem to care for her child. The tangerine toddler couldn't care less.

 

"Trump says his budget will make government ‘lean.’ It’s really a scam."

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What if I told you that I could save you thousands and thousands of dollars a year, and you don’t even have to cut back on anything important in your life? What if I promised you that, just by saving a penny a day, your whole life could change for the better? What if I said you could improve your overall finances by working less and spending more?

You’d probably think that sounded too good to be true. You’d probably suspect that I was trying to scam you. You’d be right on both counts.

If early reports are accurate, President Trump’s budget blueprint will be trying to run that same scam on the American people. His budget will pretend that he can achieve huge savings without any pain. He’ll try to focus attention on huge cuts to relatively small programs — cuts that’ll be devastating for the people those programs serve but won’t make a dent in the overall budget picture. He’ll promise that he can provide public services, fund the benefits on which American families rely and make the critical investments that grow our economy, all with less tax revenue, even as he increases spending on things like a border wall. Just like all scams, this one will sound good on the surface, but it will leave us all worse off in the end.

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And like all great scam artists, Trump is hoping you won’t look closer. Instead, he is hoping to distract you by focusing attention on enormous cuts to relatively small programs.

Most of the reporting in the lead-up to Trump’s budget has prominently mentioned a few notable public services that are on the chopping block. These often include the National Endowment for the Arts and the Humanities, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the Legal Services Corporation. Regardless of whether you support the mission of these agencies, their budgets are comparatively tiny: Even combined, they will make up just 0.03 percent of all federal spending in 2017. Fully eliminating them is exactly the same as saving a buck on a $3,333 purchase. Moreover, these sorts of programs have been essentially flat-funded for a decade. These four, for example, will spend less this year than they did in 2007, after accounting for inflation. Trumpeting big cuts to select parts of the budget — parts that just happen to be already small and already shrinking — sounds good in a tweet, and it’s all part of the scam.

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But the biggest part of the budget swindle happens on the other side of the ledger. Trump is throwing around huge numbers and promising to eliminate a list of relatively tiny programs, all in the hopes that you won’t notice or care that he’s trying to give an enormous tax cut to the richest people in America. According to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, the Trump campaign’s tax plan would reduce federal tax revenue — and thereby increase federal debt — by at least $6.1 trillion. Roughly half of that money would go directly into the bank accounts of the richest 1 percent.

Of course, Trump will argue — as good snake-oil salesmen do — that picking your pockets is good for you. You can be sure he will try to sell you on the idea that enormous tax cuts for the wealthy will boost the economy for everyone. Never mind that we’ve tried that before, both at the national level with President George W. Bush’s tax cuts and at the state level — for instance, in Kansas — to no measurable effect. Never mind that the last thing a giant, multinational corporation making billions in profits and already paying little in taxes needs is another tax cut. And definitely ignore the fact that the primary beneficiaries of such a tax cut will be people like Trump and his family (though we can’t be sure how much he will profit, because Trump has still not released his tax returns).

To be fair to Trump, this is the same scam that Republicans in Congress have been running for six years. Their budgets always contained the same basic tricks and sleights of hand, and they did seem to get away with it. It’s no wonder that Trump’s White House is trying the same thing. But, hopefully, Trump will find that the American people aren’t so willing to tolerate the same kind of budgetary double-cross coming from the president of the United States.

 

I guess Agent Orange and the Repubs are in agreement about how to screw the American public.

[fraurosena]

Others have said it before. I'm going to say it again. You simply cannot make this stuff up!

Trump: Obama and former aides behind protests, leaks

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President Trump said in an exclusive interview Tuesday that he believes former President Barack Obama and his top aides are behind the protests and leaks that have tormented the new administration – and he doesn’t expect it to stop anytime soon.

Trump, during an interview with “Fox & Friends,” blamed Obama acolytes and the ex-president himself for the organized demonstrations that have sprung up nationwide since the Nov. 8 election, and also for the politically embarrassing leaks that have hindered Trump’s messaging. 

“I think that President Obama’s behind it because his people are certainly behind it,” Trump said. “And some of the leaks possibly come from that group, you know, some of the leaks – which are very serious leaks, because they’re very bad in terms of national security.”

Trump didn’t provide evidence to support the charge.

He certainly is not alone, though, in his view that top Obama administration officials could be involved. (...) Some of those officials have pushed back. (...)  “Leaks need to be investigated, but those investigations should be conducted in a manner that is not disparaging of our dedicated IC professionals, nor destructive to the entire community,” spokesman Shawn Turner said. 

Ben Rhodes, former deputy national security adviser, also denied any involvement in leaks in an email to The Atlantic. “It’s totally absurd and doesn’t make any sense,” he wrote. 

But the assertion that Obama – who began his political career as a community organizer – is actively aiding protests against Trump is new. Though, Trump added, it doesn’t necessarily bother him. “But I also understand that’s politics,” Trump said. “And in terms of him being behind things, that’s politics. And it will probably continue.”

He added: “I’m not really surprised because I understand the way the world works. It’s politics. I mean I’m changing things that he’s wanted to do.”

So now we know. When they go high, the Tangerine Toddler goes low. Really low. 

[sawasdee]

I posted this in the Watergate thread, but I think it belongs here.

If I've got it right, Nixon was forced to resign over three things - obstruction of justice (he ordered the CIA to interfere in the FBI investigation), abuse of power (as above) and misleading Congress. These were the possible grounds for impeachment.

Well - we've had the WH telling the FBI to drop their investigation into the Trump-Russia connection - which they have refused to do. This would seem to be both obstruction of justice and abuse of power. So, just weeks into the Trump presidency, he's two out of three. If he's called to testify before a Congressional Committee, I have absolutely no doubt he'll lie - it's his default position.

Is my understanding correct, or am I misinterpreting?

 

 

[JMarie]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/28/politics/donald-trump-grade-c-a/index.html

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"In terms of achievement, I think I'd give myself an A. Because I think I've done great things -- I and my people, but I don't think we've explained it well enough to the American public," he said in an interview that aired Tuesday on Fox News' "Fox and Friends."

"I think I give myself an A in terms of what I've actually done," Trump added.

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Trump also gave himself an A+ for "effort."

"But results are more important (than effort)," he added.

 

[RoseWilder]

I'm sure this won't surprise anyone, but the Trump kids are in on this Russian thing up to their eyeballs as well: 

 

[GreyhoundFan]

2 hours ago, sawasdee said:

I posted this in the Watergate thread, but I think it belongs here.

If I've got it right, Nixon was forced to resign over three things - obstruction of justice (he ordered the CIA to interfere in the FBI investigation), abuse of power (as above) and misleading Congress. These were the possible grounds for impeachment.

Well - we've had the WH telling the FBI to drop their investigation into the Trump-Russia connection - which they have refused to do. This would seem to be both obstruction of justice and abuse of power. So, just weeks into the Trump presidency, he's two out of three. If he's called to testify before a Congressional Committee, I have absolutely no doubt he'll lie - it's his default position.

Is my understanding correct, or am I misinterpreting?

 

 

You've got it. Unfortunately, the current crop of Repubs in charge won't do a damned thing about it.

 

Not directly about Cheeto, but Pence. You couldn't make this up:

 

[Cartmann99]

1 hour ago, JMarie said:

"I think I give myself an A in terms of what I've actually done," 

Watch me stand on my head, Daddy! You love me the most, don't you Daddy? 

[GreyhoundFan]

6 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

Watch me stand on my head, Daddy! You love me the most, don't you Daddy? 

Everyone gets a gold ribbon for participating.

 

"President Trump’s friendly ‘Fox and Friends’ interview went exactly how you think it would". I can't copy it here because of the annotations, but it's worth a read.

[RoseWilder]

The Islamaphobes of America don't seem too happy with Trump's choice for national security advisor:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/mcmaster-has-the-islamophobes-worried-good-214815

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When America’s most influential Islamophobes are upset, you know the president made a good choice. “Score one [for] the swamp,” whined Robert Spencer upon hearing the news that Donald Trump appointed Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster to be his national security adviser. Spencer makes a living scaring Americans about the dangers of Muslim soccer moms. “John Bolton lost out to this guy?” sputtered his frequent partner in whine, Pamela Geller, who scoffed at the general for saying, “Every time you disrespect an Iraqi, you’re working for the enemy.”

The Islamophobes are not wrong to sense that McMaster will be hostile to their worldview, according to those who know him best. McMaster spent much of his career fighting and winning wars in the Middle East, which required him to know the local cultures and treat Muslims like humans rather than scripturally programmed robots. “He absolutely does not view Islam as the enemy,” said Pete Mansoor, who served with McMaster in Iraq. “He understands that the world is not one dimensional, that the Muslim world is not one dimensional,” said John Nagl, who also served with McMaster. In other words, the complicated causes of terrorism require complicated solutions.

Color me shocked that Trump actually chose someone that wasn't the work possible pick in the world. 

[Cartmann99]

1 hour ago, RoseWilder said:

whined Robert Spencer upon hearing the news that Donald Trump appointed Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster to be his national security adviser

I really enjoyed that video of Spencer getting punched to Just Can't Get Enough by Depeche Mode. *grins evilly, fluffs her big 80s hair*

1 hour ago, RoseWilder said:

Color me shocked that Trump actually chose someone that wasn't the work possible pick in the world

It's over 70F here, so Hell hasn't frozen over, and there's no farm animals flying around, so maybe I should go buy a lottery ticket?