Fundies don't want RNC in Vegas because SIN!!!

[ThisOlGirl]

So the fundie big wigs like James Dobson and Phyllis Schlafly don't want the Republican National Convention to be held in Las Vegas because they think there is too much temptation there. Apparently these people (who want to run our country, no

less) are so weak-willed, that if the RNC is held in Vegas, it will be complete mayhem. I'm sure the Republican Party appreciates the vote of confidence.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics ... -vegas.ece

My favorite part:

"Erick Erickson, editor of RedState, published an open plea Monday. He warned of bad publicity from 'good Christian delegates getting drunk, gambling, stuffing dollar bills in strippers’ g-strings, etc.'"

So either there's a whole lotta projection going on on Mr. Erickson's part, or he's basically saying that's exactly what will happen, but they don't want any of their "Good Christian Delegates" getting caught with their pants down.

Edited for riffles.

[SPHASH]

But they had the last RNC convention in Tampa and from what I've heard has a very lively and sinful red district.

[ThisOlGirl]

I imagine every large city has its' share of vices. The article makes it sound like they're leaning towards Dallas for the convention. I lived in Dallas for 13 years and there's no shortage of debauchery in that town--if you go looking for it, you're sure to find it. Uh, so I've heard anyway. ;)

[Emkay]

The RNC announced today that Cleveland will be hosting in 2016. Let's just say it will be quite interesting to see how this goes...

[ADoyle90815]

In a way, I'm not surprised, as Chik-fil-A won't build restaurants in that area for the same reason, even though once you get off the Strip, Vegas is a very conservative area.

[DGayle]

What, the power of prayer and God isn't strong enough to save them?

[louisa05]

While I was teaching at the Christian school, the city directly across the river in another state allowed casinos to be built. They were, basically, ten minutes from the school. Everyone went nuts and they contemplated taking the high school kids there by bus to protest the construction. Then they decided they didn't want them to know where the casinos were. Once they were built, one woman forever referred to their lights (which are not all that neon-y or noticeable anyway) as "glowing sin". She also liked to pray at (mandatory) staff prayer meetings that they be "struck down" before they led everyone to atheism and homosexuality. She must not have been wrong about the latter as I recently discovered via Facebook that her oldest daughter is an out and proud lesbian. Must have been the presence of nickel slots across the river. :twisted: (And for those that don't believe that the biggest kool aid drinkers go the farthest away from their fundy parents, that girl once came to my room after school to preach a sermon to me about why I needed to "find Jesus again" because I would not let a student in government class call the President a "fag lover" or talk about how to kill him (it was Bill Clinton if anyone wonders)--- fundagelical kool aid is funny that way the kids that drink the most seem to be the ones who can't stomach a drop as adults).

And my favorite story of staff rebellion at that school: when the first casino opened, they offered a free night's stay to area residents if someone signed up for a frequent guest card of some sort. The guidance counselor signed up and in meetings held in a locked office with the lights off, the four of us who were single 20-something females planned a girls night there. Most fun I've ever had with a group of fundagelicals. We even drank free champagne. We could have all been fired.

[RachelB]

What, the power of prayer and God isn't strong enough to save them?

I think this is why they are so into legislating their morality on everyone else: they have no self-restraint, and they can't imagine that anyone else has any, either.

[Coconut Flan]

They don't grasp that people can walk through a casino without the slightest interest in gambling, drinking, smoking, etc.

[doggie]

They don't grasp that people can walk through a casino without the slightest interest in gambling, drinking, smoking, etc.

yes it is partly because they have never been allowed it. so temptations are far more tempting since they have never known it. when you never get exposed to something you never learn to resist it in the best way. rumspringa lets kids live a bit and make a choice. fundies give no choice because their kids would run screaming they think.

[louisa05]

They don't grasp that people can walk through a casino without the slightest interest in gambling, drinking, smoking, etc.

It has a lot to do with the very all or nothing/black and white thinking. The ones I worked with thought trading cards were gambling because people value card A over card B and you don't know which cards you are getting in the pack when you buy them. And that was absolutely without question equal to gambling away all your assets and bankrupting your family. And a sip of wine at communion in a liturgical church is the equivalent of alcoholism.

They don't understand that moderation exists; moderation is part of that big gray area that they cannot comprehend. If you put a nickel in a casino slot machine, you will immediately become addicted to gambling. One drink will make you an alcoholic. One kiss (or hug or hand hold) between unrelated people of the opposite gender will lead straight to sex, immediately.

The question I've never been able to answer is what it is in their system that makes them believe that way. I think a lot of people outside it see it in terms of external control, but it isn't really that. I know too many people who hold these ideas/practices separate from their church and church leaders. My sense of the people I have known is that it is more about internal fear.

[artdecades]

what a load of crap, republicans are notorious for whoring it up during the RNC

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/politics/ ... rip-clubs/

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5629167

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/0 ... 43906.html

etc, etc

[louisa05]

what a load of crap, republicans are notorious for whoring it up during the RNC

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/politics/ ... rip-clubs/

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5629167

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/0 ... 43906.html

etc, etc

No question about that. But at the same time, they need to feed their religious base that believes everyone at the top of the party is one of them. The people I used to work with believed that the Bush family was having Bible study in the residence and family prayer time and such things. They sincerely believe that all Republican politicians embrace Christianity for real and in the same way they do. So the party had to keep up that appearance by staying out of Vegas. And behind closed doors, they will continue to drink and smoke and swear and all the other things that the fundies think they would never, ever do.

[Hane]

what a load of crap, republicans are notorious for whoring it up during the RNC

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/politics/ ... rip-clubs/

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5629167

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/0 ... 43906.html

etc, etc

I love the bit in the CNN story about the uptick in strip club attendance when the Promise Keepers convention came to town: "They kept their promise--to come back the next night!"

[kelseyjhale]

there's always cincinnati :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[Becket70]

I have no way of proving it but it seems to me that fundies think about sex way more than the rest of us. It must be difficult going about your day-to-day business when you are laser-focused on sin. It seems an unhealthy obsession.

[fun2beme]

For me, the most tempting parts of the casinos are the buffets. Unlimited food = gluttony (looking at you, Josh Duggar).

[ariel9]

Of course too close to the urges that they have but preach against!

[Miggy]

In a way, I'm not surprised, as Chik-fil-A won't build restaurants in that area for the same reason, even though once you get off the Strip, Vegas is a very conservative area.

Non-American here. I had been led to believe that it was only a small part of Vegas that had the casinos and general nightlife and the rest of the area was a fairly typical conservative southern city. Is this true?

[ShesCrafty]

Non-American here. I had been led to believe that it was only a small part of Vegas that had the casinos and general nightlife and the rest of the area was a fairly typical conservative southern city. Is this true?

Vegas isn't in the south and while it's not as liberal as, say, San Francisco, I don't believe it's as conservative as like Texas or Mississippi, for examples. And while the main tourist hotels are on either the strip or downtown, there are casinos EVERYWHERE. Also, there's slot machines at the grocery stores. And gas stations. And airport in case you want to donate money one last time before you fly back home. Not that I go to Vegas a lot or anything :whistle:

[PennySycamore]

Don't these people know that "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas."

[GolightlyGrrl]

I've never been to Vegas; and I don't plan on being there any time soon. However, I used to be somewhat involved in my local music scene. Yes, I did see a bit of debauchery-drugs, random sex, etc. And you know what? I pretty much refused to get involved with such shenanigans, and I'm a liberal, feminist Unitarian.