Nie, totally pisses me off.

[OkToBeTakei]

I always struggle with conflicted feelings about her. Such a horrible accident. Spoken a lot here.

There was always one thing that struck me a while back when reading her blog. She felt very nauseous when pregnant with her 'miracle' baby and her girls hair made it worse so she had it cut. I always thought this was selfish. I looked for the post but she is rather prolific.

She has been unwell. She made it to California. I kind of think if you are that sick you don't you know 'make' it. If you are sick you do not want to travel. She has been sofa moaning for a few posts which after gall bladder issues sounds just fine.

ANYWAY. It has taken some time. But NOW in her recent post she has let her daughter know HOW hurt she was that this small child found it hard to deal with her Mother's injuries. OH and she also added how much SHE was hurt by this. Lovely.

nieniedialogues.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/sensitive-jane.html

As much as I have compassion. I find that post horrific. Poor wee girl.

[Jenny]

Just FYI...

I had to change the address to get the blog to come up.

nieniedialogues.blogspot.com/2013/04/sensitive-jane.html

-changed .co.uk to .com

Not sure if my computer hates me or if others have this problem too.

Embarrassing your young child for being scared? Not Cool. :penguin-no:

[OkToBeTakei]

Just FYI...

I had to change the address to get the blog to come up.

nieniedialogues.blogspot.com/2013/04/sensitive-jane.html

-changed .co.uk to .com

Not sure if my computer hates me or if others have this problem too.

Embarrassing your young child for being scared? Not Cool. :penguin-no:

THIS. I would like to think I would even with the horrific issues she has, to try and at least lessen the trauma my child or children would suffer. I think it is all about Nie. I think it was always about her before the accident. I think it will always be about her.

Child curls up on her Dad's lap hearing how much she hurt her Mother when she was a very young child. She is now a pre-teen. I can't imagine how any Mother would think this was ok.

[Dysfundamental]

Just FYI...

I had to change the address to get the blog to come up.

nieniedialogues.blogspot.com/2013/04/sensitive-jane.html

-changed .co.uk to .com

Not sure if my computer hates me or if others have this problem too.

Readers in the US will find it most reliable to use blogspot.com, in the UK blogspot.co.uk, in France blogspot.co.fr, etc., regardless of where the blog itself is coming from (the first bit, like "nieniedialogues" is the same across all national suffixes).

Agree with OKTakei and Jenny that NieNie's lack of compassion or understanding for how the children were affected by the lasting impact of the accident can be startling.

[lilwriter85]

I read her posting yesterday and I lurked on GOMI. She has mentioned Jane "rejecting" her several times before. She needs to quit bringing up what Jane did as a young child at her speaking events.

[Sister_Wife]

When I was around 11, we were at a BBQ, and it all got a bit deep. My Mum started telling her story about severe post natal depression etc, after I was born. Things like, how she wanted to kill herself, me etc, obviously she got help and alls well that ends well. I was sitting at the table and remember she kept glancing at me, as if to guage my reaction. And then it was never mentioned again. But I distinctly remember being floored with this information, and unsure how to process it. I truly believe thus was the downfall of our relationship on my end. We struggled for many years and it wasn't until I had my own children that I could have compassion for my Mum.

It has made me very aware about how information can affect young children in a really negative way. I had a lot of anger towards her in my late teens and early twenties, because I felt I had missed out on the mother daughter relationship.

I can't stand Nie anyway, but this just makes me mad. No child should be made to feel bad because of their reaction to a very adult situation. And to keep bringing it up at such a delicate pre teen age. She is a superior selfish woman.

[already hungover]

This pisses me off too. Usually I find Nienie merely irritating, but this makes me angry.

How did she expect the poor child to react? A hospitalized parent is a scary thing for any child, even if the reason for the hospitalization is something much more benign than severe, disfiguring burns. I'm sure Jane was worried about both of her parents, and the family upheaval in the aftermath of the accident must have been stressful for her, particularly if she is "sensitive," as Nie suggests. Plus, and I don't mean this in an insensitive way at all, given how severely Nie's face was burned, I imagine that she did look kind of scary to Jane.

If she was so friggin' worried about how her kids might react, maybe she could have cut out the part of her speech that dealt with Jane's reaction. You know, just this one time, since it's not like she didn't know that the kid was sitting there listening. I'm sure that most of the people in attendance have read the blog and know the story. She didn't NEED to bring up this particular detail. I guess if she really felt compelled, it would have been much more considerate for her to privately give Jane an overview before so that she wasn't totally blindsided by hearing this information in front of a crowd of strangers. It's so unbelievably rude to talk about someone who is sitting right in front of you, especially if what you're discussing is potentially embarrassing or hurtful. Jesus, Nie, kids are people too.

Okay, I'm done now, but if I were Jane, I would have cried, too.

[formergothardite]

She is a really, really bad mother. She is so self-absorbed that she won't stop and think about how her actions might hurt her children. It is all about her all the time.

[HeckBound]

She is a really, really bad mother. She is so self-absorbed that she won't stop and think about how her actions might hurt her children. It is all about her all the time.

OMG this. I CANNOT STAND THIS WOMAN. And now I'm starting the work day all pissed off.

If you look at the pics of her in the first year post-accident, she is damned scary looking. I wouldn't have been surprise if her youngest ones had taken a look and screamed in fright.

Since then all she does is whine, drop copious amounts of cash at Anthro, and stage performance art vignettes for some douchey photographer to come photograph. I've read she and Courtney don't get along, and I can't believe anyone in here family can stand her solipsism and greed. I feel for those kids...between her and her man-child husband, they're screwed.

[Drina Adams]

Has this pity party not finished?

[rward]

Nie is such an awful person.

I get it, Nie, I do. Disability makes one self centered and solipsistic. So does pain. I truly, truly understand. It is difficult to rise above it, to see other people and their pain, to not want to make everyone else hurt like you, if only for a second, if only so they'll understand. I get it. I've been there, I'll be there again.

That is not an excuse for jabbing the knife in your daughter over and over and over again. That is not an excuse for being a self centered, greedy attention whore. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR YOU, NIE.

I have always been so hesitant because this has been such a hard situation

for our family. I didn't want them to listen to the pain and heartache we

as a family suffered throughout the first few years after the accident.

But the girls both wanted to come so I brought them.

I was speaking about the heartache I experienced when Jane rejected me

the first time she saw me in the hospital.

Clane was sitting front row left of me and

I could heard little quite sobs coming from over in that area.

It was my Jane.

She was visibly very upset and even walked up to the

stand where Mr. Nielson was sitting.

She curled up on his lap and cried on his shoulder all the while I was

trying to keep it together and stay focused.

It hurt my heart, but I told how Christ healed my

relationships with my family, particularly with my Jane it felt so triumphant.

After my talk and we were settled at home, I pulled Jane close to me

and looked in her blue eyes and asked her how she felt.

She told me she just felt so sad and remembered those days.

But how grateful she was that we have moved on. I agreed.

We are going to have a wonderful time sitting on the beach today

together, and with the other little Nies and Mr. Nielson.

Quiet, peaceful, relaxing, and warm.

Don't bring your daughter to such an event, Nie. She didn't know what she was asking for, so saying she wanted to come was no excuse. And fucking apologize, you bitch. You caused your daughter pain just so you could get attention, and now you're oh so happy that you've "moved on" (hint: moving on means not revisiting said thing every time someone pays you to.) She hasn't. She's hurting. You don't care. Because you're a bad person.

[chopstix]

Kids already deal with enough self esteem issues without having their own mother talk publicly about how awful and hurt she felt when Jane rejected her. Way to make your kid feel good about themselves, Nie!

[lilwriter85]

OMG this. I CANNOT STAND THIS WOMAN. And now I'm starting the work day all pissed off.

If you look at the pics of her in the first year post-accident, she is damned scary looking. I wouldn't have been surprise if her youngest ones had taken a look and screamed in fright.

Since then all she does is whine, drop copious amounts of cash at Anthro, and stage performance art vignettes for some douchey photographer to come photograph. I've read she and Courtney don't get along, and I can't believe anyone in here family can stand her solipsism and greed. I feel for those kids...between her and her man-child husband, they're screwed.

I think the Courtney is the only person in the Clark family to stop coddling NieNie. One or two of the Clark brothers often white knights NieNie on instagram. Some of the conflicts with Nie and Courtney have to do with the fact that Nie got butthurt that Courtney wasn't a Romney fangirl. Courtney has been annoyed with some of the Mormon attitudes regarding gender roles for awhile and it seems Nie and the rest of the family aren't happy about that. I'm not a huge Courtney fan, but she is much more intelligent than NieNie. It is also believed by people on GOMI that Courtney doesn't like Christian either.

Christian is a manchild and an asshole like NieNie. Those kids will probably end up being greedy assholes like their parents. Maybe Jane won't. But some of the things NieNie has posted about Claire and Nicholas are a bit telling.

[Koala]

Wait a min. Their hair nauseated her during pregnancy? I've never head of such a thing. :evil-eye: Either way it wasn't hers to cut.

I got pregnant with my daughter when my son was 6 months old. Baby food literally made me gag. When my husband was home he fed the baby, but the rest of the time I was on. I would sometimes get up to vomit in the middle of a feeding, but I got him fed. You do what you have to do. I guess Nie Nie would have just given up. :roll:

Also, I was in the ER a few weeks ago and the only tubes I had were an IV, oxygen, and some heart machine. I didn't have my husband bring my kids in because it would have scared the crap out of them. Surely Nie Nie understands how frightened her children must have been after seeing her for the first time. Their little minds couldn't have possibly wrapped around it. Why on earth would she throw that up in the poor child's face? Good lord...

**side note** this isn't the first time I've heard her complain about the way children react to her.

[lilwriter85]

The thing with the daughter's hair making Nie sick has never made sense to me. Was the daughter using a strong smelling shampoo?

[docmom]

What in the living hell sort of reaction did she expect from a young child seeing her mother disfigured for the first time? Little children have very concrete ideas of what things look like. Mummy has long hair and her mouth is a certain size etc. When those are changed they literally don't recognize the person. Jane wasn't "rejecting" her mother. She was scared by a stranger. My son asked me if he'd gotten a new mummy when I cut my hair after having it long for most of his life (he was 3). You have to spend a lot of time preparing children for a change like NieNie's and I'm willing to bet the Nielsons didn't.

[lilah]

I suspect that this is already a source of guilt for Jane and having her mom bring it up to hundreds of strangers is just awful

[HeckBound]

I think the Courtney is the only person in the Clark family to stop coddling NieNie. One or two of the Clark brothers often white knights NieNie on instagram. Some of the conflicts with Nie and Courtney have to do with the fact that Nie got butthurt that Courtney wasn't a Romney fangirl. Courtney has been annoyed with some of the Mormon attitudes regarding gender roles for awhile and it seems Nie and the rest of the family aren't happy about that. I'm not a huge Courtney fan, but she is much more intelligent than NieNie. It is also believed by people on GOMI that Courtney doesn't like Christian either.

Christian is a manchild and an asshole like NieNie. Those kids will probably end up being greedy assholes like their parents. Maybe Jane won't. But some of the things NieNie has posted about Claire and Nicholas are a bit telling.

Agreed about Courtney. Some of the stuff she puts out there is odd, but at last she displays a command of the language I'd expect of an adult who flatters themselves a writer. Nie waterboards the language every time she touches a keyboard - that her name is on her book as an "author" cracks me up. So she didn't go to college....so what? I knew there from they're from their by 3rd grade. She's somewhat illiterate.

She titles the blog entry "Sensitive Jane"??? Yeah, when being called out as a hater in front of 700 people, a girl that age might crack a little.

[lilwriter85]

Agreed about Courtney. Some of the stuff she puts out there is odd, but at last she displays a command of the language I'd expect of an adult who flatters themselves a writer. Nie waterboards the language every time she touches a keyboard - that her name is on her book as an "author" cracks me up. So she didn't go to college....so what? I knew there from they're from their by 3rd grade. She's somewhat illiterate.

She titles the blog entry "Sensitive Jane"??? Yeah, when being called out as a hater in front of 700 people, a girl that age might crack a little.

I agree, Courtney is a bit odd times and I found those porn postings to be a bit weird. But her writing is better than Nie's. I thought it was really weird when NieNie once referred to her skin grafts as "skin graphs" on the blog. I haven't read her book, but I know some people have speculated that it was ghost written. In general, I don't think NieNie is a bright person. She lacks common sense about a lot of things. Her husband isn't any better.

[Dysfundamental]

Almost all memoirs by people who aren't writers are ghost written. I don't fault NieNie for that. Writing a good memoir is hard.

She could use some ghost parenting help, though.

[lilwriter85]

I agree, Nie needs some ghost parenting help. I wouldn't be surprised if years from now, one of Nie's kids is estranged from her and out of the LDS church. I can see it being Jane if Nie continues with this "rejection" crap.

[nokidsmom]

That poor child. She, as well as her siblings at the time, had enough turbulence in their lives when their parents had their accident and the subsequent long recoveries. That her mother shames her like this for all to see is just terrible.

I am not a fan of Nie, but it had to be hard for Nie to see her daughter's reaction. That's understandable. What's not understandable how is she constantly and publically brings this painful moment up.

I certainly can see estrangement down the line for Nie and her kids.

[lilwriter85]

I'm looking at Nie's IG and blog right now and they are still in California. It seems that her children miss school quite a bit because of Nie and Christian's famewhoring. Nie did a book signing last night at a burn convention.

[Sottaceto]

That poor child. I really hope they had counseling for their children; nienie needs it as well if she thinks her child rejected her. She is sadly mistaking fear for rejection. She posted that her girls wanted to attend the event but she should have realized (being the adult) what she was sharing was far from appropriate for her girls to hear. She doesn't get it, that what she says is damaging her children emotionally as well as the lack of safety she provides for them. Also WTF was up with the lost tooth picture! I have a very strong stomach but that made me turn away quickly.

[lilwriter85]

That poor child. I really hope they had counseling for their children; nienie needs it as well if she thinks her child rejected her. She is sadly mistaking fear for rejection. She posted that her girls wanted to attend the event but she should have realized (being the adult) what she was sharing was far from appropriate for her girls to hear. She doesn't get it, that what she says is damaging her children emotionally as well as the lack of safety she provides for them. Also WTF was up with the lost tooth picture! I have a very strong stomach but that made me turn away quickly.

This.