Courtship story through pictures

[Kitty]

the guy didnt realize he was courting her until that blog post so he cancelled it.

:lol:

[polabear]

The original link doesn't work for me - it looks like they renamed the post:

thegradyfamilyarchives3.blogspot.com/2012/04/courtship-surprise.html

Nazis vs jews is also gone - now there is a scavenger hunt. I didn't see the original post - did they just rename the game?

[Kitty]

The original link doesn't work for me - it looks like they renamed the post:

thegradyfamilyarchives3.blogspot.com/2012/04/courtship-surprise.html

Nazis vs jews is also gone - now there is a scavenger hunt. I didn't see the original post - did they just rename the game?

Someone just discovered Free Jinger.

Hi Grady family!

[NurseNell]

No, that's what I thought initially but it's still there.

WTF, now the page is gone again!! :(

[NurseNell]

OK, the original March 15th post, titled The Hidden Matthew is gone. I have it saved on my computer. There is a new post with today's date announcing the courtship.

I'm jealous, they all got to go to see Riverdance. But one of the married kids took their baby. Who takes a baby to Riverdance?

[STLgirl]

I personally love that "double eggs" were served instead of deviled eggs :evil: . It's the little touches like that that gets me.

[GeoBQn]

What do you suppose they call Devil's Food Cake?

[darkplumaged]

This is not the first time the Gradys have put up a post and quickly deleted it. I think I've seen two unusually short posts just vanish from their blog in the past. I wish I could remember what they were about--both were extremely weird and not typical for them.

[CanadianHippie]

It's like dating for 12 year olds! YAY! That being said, I can still get to the post in the OP, and apparently Germans and Jews is their families version of cops and robbers. They don't specify who the good guys or bad guys are, but in cops and robbers the bad guys are the ones doing the running and hiding while the good guys do the catching... *notlikingwherethisisgoing smilie*

[Aurora]

Did they remove the part about Germans vs. Jews? I hope they got tons of shit for that.

Seriously. That is really offensive.

[darkplumaged]

They've posted about Germans and Jews before.

thegradyfamilyarchives3.blogspot.com/2011/10/lasagna-feast.html

"While we cleaned up the kitchen, the little people begged for a round of Jews and Germans. The young men were glad to accomodate. Once the Jews were captured, they were taken down the hill and deposited in a boxcar a.k.a.our van. Very convenient...we took God's chosen people and headed for home."

I'm *pretty* sure the Jews are the good guys/innocent victims here. At least I hope so...

[Aurora]

They've posted about Germans and Jews before.

thegradyfamilyarchives3.blogspot.com/2011/10/lasagna-feast.html

"While we cleaned up the kitchen, the little people begged for a round of Jews and Germans. The young men were glad to accomodate. Once the Jews were captured, they were taken down the hill and deposited in a boxcar a.k.a.our van. Very convenient...we took God's chosen people and headed for home."

I'm *pretty* sure the Jews are the good guys/innocent victims here. At least I hope so...

In a boxcar aka our van?! OMFG.

[Maul the Koala]

In a boxcar aka our van?! OMFG.

I have no words except this

[Witsec7]

They've posted about Germans and Jews before.

thegradyfamilyarchives3.blogspot.com/2011/10/lasagna-feast.html

"While we cleaned up the kitchen, the little people begged for a round of Jews and Germans. The young men were glad to accomodate. Once the Jews were captured, they were taken down the hill and deposited in a boxcar a.k.a.our van. Very convenient...we took God's chosen people and headed for home."

I'm *pretty* sure the Jews are the good guys/innocent victims here. At least I hope so...

I'm fucking speachless just fucking speachless.

[terranova]

Do they not study WW2? Are they holocaust deniers?? That's pretty fucking horrific.

[JesusFightClub]

I'm fucking speachless just fucking speachless.

This. I tried to comment but what is this I don't even.

[darkplumaged]

I'm Jewish and I'm not even offended by this, because there is just no end to fundies' provincialism. That doesn't excuse them--I mean, they should be reading history that isn't Approved Fundie Crap, and they should have enough sense not to "play Holocaust"--but they don't. They do not live in the "real world," they are completely surrounded by equally ignorant people, and this is the result.

ETA that young kids often devise and play odd games, but the teens and adults should not endorse this by getting involved and blogging about it. Again, no sense. At all. I don't know how they get through life.

[Witsec7]

I keep coming back to this. Aside from some neonazi's I can't imagine folks thinking that this could be a game.

I'm also putting them on my list of people I should visit if I ever get diagnosed with a terminal illness.

Edited to add: I think this is the most aberrant thing I've ever heard of fundies doing.

[liltwinstar]

Erm, I haven't read the blog posts about the "Germans and Jews" game, but part of me wants to give them a bit of a benefit of the doubt with that, mostly because my sis and I did some similar game-playing as kids. Corrie Ten Boom's book and others (I remember one called "I am a Star" or something like that) were favorites, and on at least one occasion, we played that we were good people saving Jews from the evil Germans. Culturally sensitive we were not, clearly, but Ten Boom's book was high drama in our house, and we wanted to be like her. We were absolutely not holocaust deniers by any stretch. We were just dumb, clueless kids acting out (imagined) scenes from the books we read. And we were young - maybe 8 or so? Something like that.

Course, we also wore kerchiefs around the house after watching Fiddler on the Roof...

[CanadianHippie]

Erm, I haven't read the blog posts about the "Germans and Jews" game, but part of me wants to give them a bit of a benefit of the doubt with that, mostly because my sis and I did some similar game-playing as kids. Corrie Ten Boom's book and others (I remember one called "I am a Star" or something like that) were favorites, and on at least one occasion, we played that we were good people saving Jews from the evil Germans. Culturally sensitive we were not, clearly, but Ten Boom's book was high drama in our house, and we wanted to be like her. We were absolutely not holocaust deniers by any stretch. We were just dumb, clueless kids acting out (imagined) scenes from the books we read. And we were young - maybe 8 or so? Something like that.

Course, we also wore kerchiefs around the house after watching Fiddler on the Roof...

And you probably didn't have a bunch of teenagers and young adults involved to tell you it was culturally insensitive. Adults in this family are playing this game.

[adidas]

Did they edit the post? Because there's an explanation there:

There were a few quiet moments together for the couple throughout the afternoon... and a rousing game of Jews and Germans afterwards...Our little people invented 'Jews and Germans' after listening to a Corrie ten Boom biography. It's basically cops and robbers, the good guys and the bad guys. All the big Millers were the bad guys and all the little Gradys were the good guys.

I agree that it's distasteful (to say the least).

[LucySnowe]

They've posted about Germans and Jews before.

thegradyfamilyarchives3.blogspot.com/2011/10/lasagna-feast.html

"While we cleaned up the kitchen, the little people begged for a round of Jews and Germans. The young men were glad to accomodate. Once the Jews were captured, they were taken down the hill and deposited in a boxcar a.k.a.our van. Very convenient...we took God's chosen people and headed for home."

I'm *pretty* sure the Jews are the good guys/innocent victims here. At least I hope so...

What the...just realised I don't know whether outright swearing is acceptable on the board. Just insert all the profanity symbols here.

Also from that entry, much earlier: 'But we finally got everyone all rounded up! When you wait that long for something to happen, it really makes it more special.'

Yes! And I'm sure the Nazis felt it was SO SPECIAL to round up God's chosen people.

[SheWoreLemon]

I found an excerpt about how the Germans v. Jews games got started:

" ...and a rousing game of Jews and Germans afterwards...Our little people invented 'Jews and Germans' after listening to a Corrie ten Boom biography. It's basically cops and robbers, the good guys and the bad guys. All the big Millers were the bad guys and all the little Gradys were the good guys. "

I just finished "The Hiding Place" by Corrie Ten Boom today. The ten Boom family led a resistance cell in Amsterdam that hid Jews during the German occupation until they were arrested and sent to concentration camps themselves. Her father and sister died in the camps.

The book teaches that every human life has value--vs. the Nazis who believed that your life only had value if you were strong enough to serve the Fatherland. Nazis started euthanizing people with mental retardation, people with mental illnesses, alcholics, social deviants, and people with bad "racial hygiene" as early as 1933. Parents who gave birth to children with birth defects were forcibly sterilized.

In contrast, Corrie ten Boom's story shows the value of every life. The camps were designed to strip your humanity from you, but Betsie (Corrie's sister) had an amazing ability to keep seeing the humanity in everyone--even the guards. After the war, the sisters planned to open rehabilitation camps for former concentration camp survivors and Dutch Nazi sympathizers to help everyone heal and get past the war. Betsie died, but Corrie was able to set up all those healing places.

One big part of that book was the descriptiong of the train ride they were on--four days of being so tightly packed in a train car that there was no room to lie down unless you were laying down on someone else. No food, no latrines, no fresh air, some bread thrown in sometimes that only the people by the door got to eat.

Calling a game Germans and Jews isn't PC, but it definitely helps the kids relate to the story. Calling the station wagon a "boxcar"? Kids learn by playing. If they don't play about what they heard in the Corrie ten Boom biography, then they'll forget it. But when they hear more about the Holocaust later, they'll have some background to draw on.

Edited to explain this a bit better:

I used to love Little House on the Prairie Books. In one of the books, Pa is working for the railroad. Later on in school, we learned about making the trans-Contintal railroad and driving the Golden Spike. If I'd never read about Pa and the railroad, I'd be bored to death about the railroad, but since I had something to relate it to, I was interested in the topic.

[LucySnowe]

Calling a game Germans and Jews isn't PC, but it definitely helps the kids relate to the story. Calling the station wagon a "boxcar"? Kids learn by playing. If they don't play about what they heard in the Corrie ten Boom biography, then they'll forget it. But when they hear more about the Holocaust later, they'll have some background to draw on.

Edited to explain this a bit better:

I used to love Little House on the Prairie Books. In one of the books, Pa is working for the railroad. Later on in school, we learned about making the trans-Contintal railroad and driving the Golden Spike. If I'd never read about Pa and the railroad, I'd be bored to death about the railroad, but since I had something to relate it to, I was interested in the topic.

SheWoreLemon, I agree that reading something in an engaging novel can make history more interesting when you then come to it in school.

However, I am assuming that neither your personal playtime nor your school education involved you and your siblings pretending to be Chinese immigrants dying by the hundreds because of avalanches and explosions as they dug tunnels, nor that you re-enacted the shameful way that these immigrants were treated - for instance, I doubt some of your friends pretended to be Chinese immigrants while others were the inspectors who turned up for spot checks to enforce the Geary Act (which required them to show their residence certificates at any time).

(I am grateful to Digital History for allowing me to check my badly-remembered facts: http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/histor ... china1.cfm)

[AudreyE]

That game just freaks me out, regardless of how it's framed. You know the kids are running around, laughing and having fun, because chasing and capturing other kids *is* fun.

Meanwhile, a married fundi couple had 3 kids in the time it took M + B to look at each other in full daylight without sunglasses.

It amazes me that part of the group of people who must be kept in the dark about the courtship until the bitter end is THE WOMAN. You could think you're courting someone, and lo and behold that person is courting your sister.